Bellringer Angel Posted April 20, 2017 Report Share Posted April 20, 2017 I'm not dead. Rules:All Leaderboard rules applyFirst to 3 votes or most votes by deadline wins.All voters must elaborate on their votes or else the vote will be rejected.Both contestants have the right to refuse votes, but must explain why they don't accept it.Card C votes are allowed in case the voter thinks both cards don't deserve a vote but must elaborate on why he/she thinks so.Cards must be PM'd to me.Written cards are allowed.Remove any evidence of the card being made by you to ensure anonymityIn case a downtime or an emergency happens, the deadlines may be extended. Deadlines:The deadline for cards is 48 hours after challenge has been accepted.The deadline for votes is 96 hours (4 days) after cards have been posted.In case of a challenger failing to meet the above deadline without explanation, the challenger slot will open up again, at which point it becomes first-come-first-serve between the previous challenger's and new submissions. Rewards:The winner gets a rep from the loser.All voters get a rep for voting. Requirements:Make a card that is based of another card game. (You must also send the original version to me when PM'ing your cards.) [spoiler=Card A] [based of Nephthys from Shadowverse] NephthysLevel 8 - DARK[ Spellcaster / Fusion / Effect ]2 or more DARK monsters with different names whose total Levels/Ranks exactly equal 8.Must be Special Summoned (from your Extra Deck) by sending the above cards you control to the Graveyard, and cannot be Special Summoned by other ways. (You do not use "Polymerization".) If this card is Special Summoned: You can Special Summon as many DARK monsters with different names from your Deck as possible, and if you do, destroy them, ignoring any card and effect that would prevent the cards from being destroyed. You can only use this effect of "Nephthys" once per turn. Once per turn, during your opponent's turn, if a card(s) you control is destroyed by battle or card effect: You can target 1 card your opponent controls for each card destroyed; destroy it.[ ATK 2850 / DEF 0 ] [spoiler=Card B] [based of Akroma, Angel of Fury from Magic: The Gathering] Akroma, Angel of FuryLevel 8 - FIRE[ Fairy / Flip / Effect ]FLIP: Declare 1 Attribute; while this card remains face-up on the field, it cannot be destroyed by battle against a monster with the declared Attribute, also it is unaffected by the effects of other monsters with that Attribute.Cannot be Special Summoned in Attack Position. If your opponent controls a monster that was Special Summoned from the Extra Deck and you control no monsters, you can Normal Set this monster without Tributing a monster. Once per turn, during either player's turn, if this card is in face-down Defense Position: You can reveal it and pay 2400 LP: Flip Summon this card.[ ATK 2400 / DEF 2400 ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black D'Sceptyr Posted April 20, 2017 Report Share Posted April 20, 2017 I'll be happy to oblige you for this challenge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellringer Angel Posted April 20, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 20, 2017 I'll be happy to oblige you for this challenge.ok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellringer Angel Posted April 22, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 22, 2017 cards are up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted April 23, 2017 Report Share Posted April 23, 2017 Gonna vote Card C. I can't assess flavor very well, but flavor means nothing if the design is severely lacking. Nepthys is plain unfair. It isn't difficult to summon, it kills 4 DARKS, proving destruction/send to grave/other grave effects along the way, and your reward for this is a 2850 beater with a destructioneffect on top of it all. Akroma, however, is useless. ED toolboxes exist, and many decks are multi-attribute, so the protection is mediocre at best. Needing an opponent to control an ED a monster while you have none... to pay 2400 to flip it up is weak as hell, because it still consumes your normal. Immortal Hermit of Thunder is a special summonable Level 7 at any time for 3K lp, which should show how weak this is. i forgot that card C votes existed for a minute, but both of these demonstrate a basic lack of design knowledge. Maybe they're super flavorful, but sometimes you have to give up a bit of flavor to make a design actually work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darj Posted April 23, 2017 Report Share Posted April 23, 2017 I'm going for Card C as well. Card A:The card is is easily accessible and pseudo-milling up to 4 DARKs and trigger their grave or on-destruction effects is such a nasty thing to do. Maaybe it would have been fine if it just Summoned 1, or also negated those effects, effectively supporting cards that require X number of DARKs in the grave, setting up grave fodder, triggering other cards that activate when a card is destroyed like Supply Squad or whatever, etc. Then the last effect further punishes the opponent. Also, I wish the name was more flavorful: I mean, just "Nephthys" is kinda bland and could even conflict with any future "Nephthys" support since Phoenix and Hand of Nephthys are things; but meh, this is just a nitpick from me. Card B:Really underwhelming. Paying 2400 for its no-Tribute Set while you are at field disadvantage doesn't look like a good deal, and only for a 2400/2400 stat monster with protection from 1 of the 7 available Attributes? I don't see it lasting long on the field. Being unaffected by monsters with that Attribute anywhere, including grave, banished, or hand, is a cool perk but still, is not enough to back this card up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellringer Angel Posted April 23, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 23, 2017 best designers lmao both votes accepted (unless Black D'Sceptyr disagree) A: 0 B: 0 C: 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black D'Sceptyr Posted April 24, 2017 Report Share Posted April 24, 2017 It's okay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Flyer - Sakura Posted April 25, 2017 Report Share Posted April 25, 2017 I should have some time left to get a vote in, so... Card A is busted as hell, especially given the mass DARK summoning and subsequent destruction, which is also layered with yet more destruction. Yeah, no. Also the fact that this card can be summoned out rather quickly in DARK oriented Decks, which I think nowadays in terms of relevancy are PKs, Predaplant and some other stuff. I mean, I guess it fuels the summon conditions for some of the Dark counterparts / DAD banish fodder, but this is doing way too much. Card B's immunity to a certain Attribute is cute, but a reminder that most Decks do run varied Attributes in the ED / such, so card isn't going to last very long otherwise. Yeah, I guess you get a 2400 ATK 'mon without Tributing if you go second, but that's all this card can do (and given how often the ED is used, you're summoning this card once the opponent has an established board up). Flip Summon effect is meh. Like Black mentioned, we got Immortal Hermit, which has 300 more ATK, can be Special Summoned without any strings attached (well, 3K LP payment, but w/e) and revives your LP if it goes away. (I guess you can block this card from getting popped by mono-Attribute stuff, but yeah...) ====Voting C as well; A is over the line with destruction on top of destruction, and B just doesn't do enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellringer Angel Posted April 25, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 25, 2017 I should have some time left to get a vote in, so... Card A is busted as hell, especially given the mass DARK summoning and subsequent destruction, which is also layered with yet more destruction. Yeah, no. Also the fact that this card can be summoned out rather quickly in DARK oriented Decks, which I think nowadays in terms of relevancy are PKs, Predaplant and some other stuff. I mean, I guess it fuels the summon conditions for some of the Dark counterparts / DAD banish fodder, but this is doing way too much. Card B's immunity to a certain Attribute is cute, but a reminder that most Decks do run varied Attributes in the ED / such, so card isn't going to last very long otherwise. Yeah, I guess you get a 2400 ATK 'mon without Tributing if you go second, but that's all this card can do (and given how often the ED is used, you're summoning this card once the opponent has an established board up). Flip Summon effect is meh. Like Black mentioned, we got Immortal Hermit, which has 300 more ATK, can be Special Summoned without any strings attached (well, 3K LP payment, but w/e) and revives your LP if it goes away. (I guess you can block this card from getting popped by mono-Attribute stuff, but yeah...) ====Voting C as well; A is over the line with destruction on top of destruction, and B just doesn't do enough.Does 3 C's equal a draw? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Flyer - Sakura Posted April 25, 2017 Report Share Posted April 25, 2017 Yeah, 3 card C's equal automatic draw; though BDS can object if he needs to. (For the most part, I agree with Black and Darj on how the cards were designed, but I have to actually say that on my own.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black D'Sceptyr Posted April 26, 2017 Report Share Posted April 26, 2017 No objection. Really wish I had more time to tweak mine, tho. Here's to a rematch, Bell! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Flyer - Sakura Posted April 26, 2017 Report Share Posted April 26, 2017 Alright then, the match ends in a draw. Just make sure both of you give out voter reps to those you haven't already given them to for accepted votes. If you want to, you guys can rematch right after this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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