Too Talli Tarian, the Emperor's Enforcer (Larger than Life, Ender of Strife)

[Black D'Sceptyr]

 

[spoiler=Too Talli Tarian: Errata]

DARK/Rock-Type Fusion Effect Monster/Level 7/2950 ATK/1000 DEF

 

Lore: 1 Normal Pendulum Monster OR 1 Pendulum Monster without a Pendulum Effect + 1 non-Effect Monster

Must be either Fusion Summoned, or Special Summoned by returning the above monsters you control to the hand (in which case you do not use "Polymerization"), and cannot be Special Summoned by other ways. Each Normal Monster you control cannot be destroyed by battle once per turn. This card and Normal Monsters you control are unaffected by the effects of your opponent's Effect Monsters on the field. If a Normal Monster(s) you control is Tributed, or detached from an Xyz Monster you control, return those monsters to the hand instead of sending them to the Graveyard.

 

 

 

When constituting your own weight class goes right. Oh so very Effect-Monster-squishingly right. 

 

Also, vacuuming Normal Monsters upon Tributing = keeping them from dying to Effect Monster = Tyrant's Trap SYNERGY~!

 

So from way up on Tarian's head, I say: MAY THE REVIEWS AND REVELRY ARRIVE IN ABUNDANCE.

 

BDS, SIGNING OFF.

 

(no seriously Tarian, let me down, this wasn't funny at the gladiator deathmatch either, I don't care how good my vantage point was. Oh. Right. Yeah I forgot-could nap on one of your fingernails. Okay then, you do you. I'll just...watch.)

 

* UPDATE: Fixed up Tarian's effect to better benefit Normal Monsters. Also I tacked out the self Tributing protection. Not gonna let fear of a Tier 2 self-playing archetype run my cardmaking style. 

[leafbladie]

Fixed the lore up for you:

 

Must be either Fusion Summoned, or Special Summoned by returning the above monsters you control to the hand (in which case you do not use "Polymerization"), and cannot be Special Summoned by other ways. This card and Normal Monsters you control cannot be destroyed by battle, except by battle with a Normal Monster. This card and Normal Monsters you control cannot be destroyed by the effects of Effect Monsters. If a Normal Monster(s) you control is Tributed, or detached from an Xyz Monster you control, return those monsters to the hand, instead of sending them to the Graveyard.

 

I took away that thing about being Tributed by the effect of Effect Monsters. I know you might think that'd prevent Kaiju'ing, but it won't. The tribute is a cost, not an effect, the only thing that stops Kaijus is Vanity's or Mask or Restrict.

 

Anyway, onto the card itself. It basically reminds me of "First of the Dragons", but applied to your entire field of vanillas. The protection for itself though is a bit annoying, as cards like "Dinoster Power, the Mighty Dracoslayer" don't go that far, and I'd consider Dinoster more difficult to get out, and this benefits even further by being allowed to be Fusion Summoned and returning the material to the hand. I see that you also mentioned this being tied with "Tyrant's Throes" to lock down Effect Monsters, all I can say is I'm glad I play Blue-Eyes so I can beat over this thing with ease. I think it works good as Normal Monsters support akin to that of Dinoster, good job.

[The Nyx Avatar]

Nice. I always wondered what a gijinka of the Leaning Tower of Pisa would look like.

 

So essentially protection for Normal monsters?

 

Though, how you have it worded now, it'd also protect Ritual, Fusion, Synchro, and Xyz monsters (so long as they have no effects).

 

It's relatively easy to Summon, and it has a big blanket of protection. I'd say it's a bit much with having the protection cover it, too.

 

I'd suggest keeping the other protections, but keep one of them from applying to this card.

[Dokutah]

Fixed the lore up for you:

 

Must be either Fusion Summoned, or Special Summoned by returning the above monsters you control to the hand (in which case you do not use "Polymerization"), and cannot be Special Summoned by other ways. This card and Normal Monsters you control cannot be destroyed by battle, except by battle with a Normal Monster. This card and Normal Monsters you control cannot be destroyed by the effects of Effect Monsters. If a Normal Monster(s) you control is Tributed, or detached from an Xyz Monster you control, return those monsters to the hand, instead of sending them to the Graveyard.

 

thank you for cutting my job but i believe it kinda stray apart from what this guy truly want a bit. so my version is:

 

Must be either Fusion Summoned, or Special Summoned by returning the above monsters you control to the hand (in which case you do not use "Polymerization"), and cannot be Special Summoned by other ways. This card and non-Effect Monsters you control cannot be destroyed by battle and/or card effect with Effect Monster. This card and non-Effect Monsters you control cannot be Tributed for Summon and effects of monster your opponent control. When a Normal Monster(s) you control is Tributed, or detached from an Xyz Monster you control, return them to the hand instead of sending them to the Graveyard.

 

1) shorthen the anti destroyed effect

 

2) restore the anti-tribute effect and modify it to be truly anti-kaiju

 

ok its obviously intended to be support of non-effect decks, especially the non-effect pendulum  like Igknight or Metalfoes. but it seems a bit too much (well...thanks the other Black). its a 3000 body (don't argue with -50) that can protect itself and all non-effect monster. in addition to that it can retrieve Normal monster that tribute or detached back to your hand. an obvious scale retriever. this card can generate quite troublesome advantage in Metalfoes exclusively

 

maybe instead (back to Leafblade suggestion) this card is not that nutty if it meant to support non-pendulum Normal deck

[leafbladie]

thank you for cutting my job but i believe it kinda stray apart from what this guy truly want a bit. so my version is:

 

Must be either Fusion Summoned, or Special Summoned by returning the above monsters you control to the hand (in which case you do not use "Polymerization"), and cannot be Special Summoned by other ways. This card and Normal Monsters you control cannot be destroyed by battle and/or card effect with Effect Monster. This card and Normal Monsters you control cannot be Tributed for Summon and effects of monster your opponent control. When a Normal Monster(s) you control is Tributed, or detached from an Xyz Monster you control, return them to the hand instead of sending them to the Graveyard.

It wouldn't work. It says monster your opponent controls. They own the card, but they don't control it since it's not on ther field. Again, the tributing is a cost, not an effect, so saying it "can't be tributed by the effect of an effect monster" is meaningless.

[Dokutah]

It wouldn't work. It says monster your opponent controls. They own the card, but they don't control it since it's not on ther field. Again, the tributing is a cost, not an effect, so saying it "can't be tributed by the effect of an effect monster" is meaningless.

are you sure?

 

"This card and non-Effect Monsters you control cannot be Tributed for Summon and effects of monster your opponent control."

 

 to be proper anti-kaiju or Stormfort. the "Tributed for Summon" part is ensuring that as it prevent the monster you control to be cannot tribute by any means of summoning including special summon. the anti-tribute for effect is just bonus to to possible-yet-not exist Share the Pain-esque monster effect (now for this part i admit it was useless)

 

but if you still not sure about it, we can tweak the wording a bit into this:

"This card and non-Effect Monsters you control cannot be Tributed for Summon and effects of monster in your opponent possession."

or

"This card and non-Effect Monsters you control cannot be Tributed for Summon and effects of monster your opponent control or in their hand."

[leafbladie]

are you sure?

 

"This card and non-Effect Monsters you control cannot be Tributed for Summon and effects of monster your opponent control."

 

BDS here is obviously want this card to be anti-kaiju or Stormfort. the "Tributed for Summon" part is ensuring that as it prevent the monster you control to be cannot tribute by any means of summoning including special summon. i assume you still arguing it on behalf that normally per ruling you can only tribute monster on your side of the field for common tribute summon. the anti-tribute for effect is just bonus to to possible-yet-not exist Share the Pain-esque monster effect (now for this part i admit it was useless)

 

but if you still not sure about it, we can tweak the wording a bit into this:

"This card and non-Effect Monsters you control cannot be Tributed for Summon and effects of monster in your opponent possession."

or

"This card and non-Effect Monsters you control cannot be Tributed for Summon and effects of monster your opponent control or in their hand."

Yeah, that's probably what they're intending, to prevent it from being Kaiju'd. Which I kind of disagree with the idea of doing, as even though I don't really care for Kaiju, that archetype already dies pretty easily to Mask of Restrict. Anyway, yes, I think that would probably make it work such that they won't be able to be Kaiju'd, but the protection is kind of ridiculous imho.

[Black D'Sceptyr]

Back from my soujourn to the repairers for the sink and...holy souly the reviews are thick. Lemme see if I can respond to them all in this post. 

 

First off, thanks Nyx. 

 

Nice. I always wondered what a gijinka of the Leaning Tower of Pisa would look like.

So essentially protection for Normal monsters?

Though, how you have it worded now, it'd also protect Ritual, Fusion, Synchro, and Xyz monsters (so long as they have no effects).

It's relatively easy to Summon, and it has a big blanket of protection. I'd say it's a bit much with having the protection cover it, too.

I'd suggest keeping the other protections, but keep one of them from applying to this card.

 

And I will take that battle protection off of Too Tall Tarian, as per the suggestion. 

 

Now for the leafbladie/Re-Creator.

 

thank you for cutting my job but i believe it kinda stray apart from what this guy truly want a bit. so my version is:

 

Must be either Fusion Summoned, or Special Summoned by returning the above monsters you control to the hand (in which case you do not use "Polymerization"), and cannot be Special Summoned by other ways. This card and non-Effect Monsters you control cannot be destroyed by battle and/or card effect with Effect Monster. This card and non-Effect Monsters you control cannot be Tributed for Summon and effects of monster your opponent control. When a Normal Monster(s) you control is Tributed, or detached from an Xyz Monster you control, return them to the hand instead of sending them to the Graveyard.

 

1) shorthen the anti destroyed effect

 

2) restore the anti-tribute effect and modify it to be truly anti-kaiju

 

ok its obviously intended to be support of non-effect decks, especially the non-effect pendulum  like Igknight or Metalfoes. but it seems a bit too much (well...thanks the other Black). its a 3000 body (don't argue with -50) that can protect itself and all non-effect monster. in addition to that it can retrieve Normal monster that tribute or detached back to your hand. an obvious scale retriever. this card can generate quite troublesome advantage in Metalfoes exclusively

 

maybe instead (back to Leafblade suggestion) this card is not that nutty if it meant to support non-pendulum Normal deck

 

It wouldn't work. It says monster your opponent controls. They own the card, but they don't control it since it's not on ther field. Again, the tributing is a cost, not an effect, so saying it "can't be tributed by the effect of an effect monster" is meaningless.

 

 

are you sure?

 

"This card and non-Effect Monsters you control cannot be Tributed for Summon and effects of monster your opponent control."

 

BDS here is obviously want this card to be anti-kaiju or Stormfort. the "Tributed for Summon" part is ensuring that as it prevent the monster you control to be cannot tribute by any means of summoning including special summon. i assume you still arguing it on behalf that normally per ruling you can only tribute monster on your side of the field for common tribute summon correction* normally need to be summon from your hand. the anti-tribute for effect is just bonus to to possible-yet-not exist Share the Pain-esque monster effect (now for this part i admit it was useless)

 

but if you still not sure about it, we can tweak the wording a bit into this:

"This card and non-Effect Monsters you control cannot be Tributed for Summon and effects of monster in your opponent possession."

or

"This card and non-Effect Monsters you control cannot be Tributed for Summon and effects of monster your opponent control or in their hand."

 

So much inquiry. Alright, leafbladie thinks that 3T is okay for vanilla extract Decks, but a tad op on the self-protection and both of y'all think 3T tributing protection is insufficiently worded to block out the Kaijus. I can work with this. As I said before, I've decided to remove the other battle protection for the monsters. Right now, this does read as an unholy cross between First of the Dragons and Dinoster Power-with a lower Level. I can accomplish 3T's wondrous power without needing to worry much for the Tribute mania that Kaijus are leading.

 

Alright, I think I've got it all. Stay tuned, folks.

[Black D'Sceptyr]

Time Warp again.

[leafbladie]

Huh, thought I critiqued the new and improved version, I guess I only did when I was submitting this review for points. Well looking at it now, it's still an unholy amalgamation of Dinoster and First of Dragons for Normal Monsters, but since they're normal monsters that kind of protection is fine. Running this in a dedicated Normal Deck with Heart of the Underdog, and stun traps for effect monsters would actually be pretty cool. Anyway, one issues I noticed with the wording of the effect, I believe it should be:

 

"This card and Normal Monsters you control are unaffected by your opponent's monster effects." (from A-Assault Core)

 

You really don't need to specify field honestly, while I guess it leaves chinks in the protection for tech cards, it's not really necessary.