-kyo- Posted April 18, 2016 Report Share Posted April 18, 2016 Cipher WingLevel 4 LIGHT Machine-Type Effect MonsterATK 1400DEF 1200(1) If you control a “Cipher” monster or “Kinetic Soldier”, you can Special Summon this card (from your hand).(2) You can Tribute this card; all “Cipher” monsters and “Kinetic Soldier” you control gain 4 Levels until the end of this turn. Galaxy-Eyes Cipher DragonRank 8 LIGHT Dragon-Type Xyz Effect MonsterATK 3000DEF 2500Materials: 2 Level 8 monsters(1) Once per turn: you can detach 1 Xyz Material from this card, then target 1 face-up monster the opponent controls; Gain control of it until the End Phase, but its effects are negated, its ATK becomes 3000, and its name is treated as “Galaxy-Eyes Cipher Dragon”. You cannot attack directly for the rest of this turn, except with this card. https://ygorganization.com/v-jump-june-2016-collectors-pack/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted April 18, 2016 Report Share Posted April 18, 2016 Cipher will be a problem in the blue eyes mirror match, you can't really leave out lv 8's anymore. This is honestly turning Blue Eyes into Rulers as ironic as that is at the end of the day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinkerer Posted April 18, 2016 Report Share Posted April 18, 2016 These were left pretty much untouched, eh? Cipher Dragon's gonna be fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas★Zero Posted April 18, 2016 Report Share Posted April 18, 2016 This card can still steal Xyz Monsters and turn them into Full Armour and Dark Matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nyx Avatar Posted April 18, 2016 Report Share Posted April 18, 2016 Wait. Wait. Wait. This card/archetype will tie in Kinetic Soldier and Galaxy Eyes? How do you do that? At least it's easy to Special Summon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hallohallo Posted April 18, 2016 Report Share Posted April 18, 2016 Well Galaxy-Eyes is almost the same as in the anime. No surprise there inb4 they name this archetype "Kinetic" in TCG. "Galaxy-Eyes Kinetic Dragon". Eh, Cipher has a better ring to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas★Zero Posted April 18, 2016 Report Share Posted April 18, 2016 on a side note in the OCG Kinetic Solider was known as Cipher Scouter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nyx Avatar Posted April 18, 2016 Report Share Posted April 18, 2016 Well Galaxy-Eyes is almost the same as in the anime. No surprise there inb4 they name this archetype "Kinetic" in TCG. "Galaxy-Eyes Kinetic Dragon". Eh, Cipher has a better ring to it.on a side note in the OCG Kinetic Solider was known as Cipher Scouter.Then why does it say: If you control a “Cipher” monster or “Kinetic Soldier” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Warden Posted April 18, 2016 Report Share Posted April 18, 2016 Because it's translated into what they assume the TCG text will be like. If I recall correctly, TCG is the only one that uses PSCT, while OCG uses that numbering system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nyx Avatar Posted April 18, 2016 Report Share Posted April 18, 2016 Because it's translated into what they assume the TCG text will be like. If I recall correctly, TCG is the only one that uses PSCT, while OCG uses that numbering system.Thank you. I found it a bit confusing as Kinetic Soldier's name differed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted April 18, 2016 Report Share Posted April 18, 2016 Kinetic energy hurrr hurrrrrrrr ... Galaxy being, basically, untouched is pretty hilarious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hallohallo Posted April 18, 2016 Report Share Posted April 18, 2016 Thank you. I found it a bit confusing as Kinetic Soldier's name differed.It's not the first time this ever happened. I mean look at the Red-Eyes archetype. It always excludes "Red-Eyes B. Chick", because its not a "Red-Eyes" monster in OCG (Because it's named "Black Dragon's Hatchling" in OCG). And don't get me started with "Guardian" archetype and its "Arsenal Summoner" card. I just hope they rename "Kinetic Soldier" into "Cipher Soldier" or "Cipher Scouter". It's gonna be really annoying with "Kinetic Soldier" poping up in every Cipher card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nyx Avatar Posted April 18, 2016 Report Share Posted April 18, 2016 It's not the first time this ever happened. I mean look at the Red-Eyes archetype. It always excludes "Red-Eyes B. Chick", because its not a "Red-Eyes" monster in OCG (Because it's named "Black Dragon's Hatchling" in OCG). And don't get me started with "Guardian" archetype and its "Arsenal Summoner" card. I just hope they rename "Kinetic Soldier" into "Cipher Soldier" or "Cipher Scouter". It's gonna be really annoying with "Kinetic Soldier" poping up in every Cipher card.They renamed Herpie's brother to Sky Scout; so there's that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted April 18, 2016 Report Share Posted April 18, 2016 Ooh, Galaxy-Eyes was pretty much untouched. Beautiful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pchi Posted April 18, 2016 Report Share Posted April 18, 2016 It'd be simpler if they just reprinted all those old monsters who should or not fit a new archetype with their names updated or an "Archfiend" clause rather than splash the "Frog the Jam" or "Gazelle" clause on all of their cards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darj Posted April 19, 2016 Report Share Posted April 19, 2016 I don't follow the anime so this is the first time I see these.So, Cipher Dragon is practically a Big Eye for the Rank8 pool? I like it. Also I wonder if there is any way for taking advantage of that name-replacing effect. Heraldry Patriach counter-play anyone? heh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IQuitDolphin Posted April 19, 2016 Report Share Posted April 19, 2016 I don't follow the anime so this is the first time I see these.So, Cipher Dragon is practically a Big Eye for the Rank8 pool? I like it. Also I wonder if there is any way for taking advantage of that name-replacing effect. Heraldry Patriach counter-play anyone? heh Cipher Dragon is more than a Big Eye though, it gives you a free Dark Matter while keeping another 3K beater on board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted April 19, 2016 Report Share Posted April 19, 2016 Cipher Dragon is more than a Big Eye though, it gives you a free Dark Matter while keeping another 3K beater on board.It's gets you free dark matter if you're dumb enough to leave XYZ's out without protection* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
玄魔の王 Posted April 25, 2016 Report Share Posted April 25, 2016 It's gets you free dark matter if you're dumb enough to leave XYZ's out without protection*It does punish first-turn Majester/Gigant/whatever plays, so there's that. Also Cipher Wing's lack of OPT is kinda crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Faytl~ Posted April 25, 2016 Report Share Posted April 25, 2016 I just realized Cipher Dragon is generic. That's insane, and it's gonna make Blue-Eyes even crazier. On the upside, new amazing monster for Gimmick Puppets :V EDIT: Hey, you know what card would be HILARIOUS in combination with this card? Heraldry Patriarch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
玄魔の王 Posted April 25, 2016 Report Share Posted April 25, 2016 I really hope they don't rename this Archetype "Kinetic", it'd kill the symbolism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted April 25, 2016 Report Share Posted April 25, 2016 They can't name the archetype Kinetic in the TCG, because we have 3 cards with "Telekinetic" in their name (plus Kinetic Soldier) that are definitely not supposed to be compatible. In all likelihood, they will still be called "Cipher" and Kinetic Soldier will be specifically mentioned as being compatible until we get it reprinted with its name changed to Cipher in some form. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodfusion Posted April 25, 2016 Report Share Posted April 25, 2016 Instead of renaming Kinetic Soldier, they should just give it an archetype clause like Summoned Skull and friends have for Archfiend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted April 25, 2016 Report Share Posted April 25, 2016 Instead of renaming Kinetic Soldier, they should just give it an archetype clause like Summoned Skull and friends have for Archfiend. Either way, Kinetic Soldier would need an errata. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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