Nathanael D. Striker Posted March 5, 2016 Report Share Posted March 5, 2016 Rules:All Leaderboard rules apply.Cards must be submitted through PM by 2:25pm PST on 3/7.First to 3 votes or most 9:03pm PST on 3/9If there are no votes after the deadline, next vote wins.All voters must elaborate on their votes.The contestants and I have the right to refuse votes, but must explain why we don't accept it.Contestants have 12 hours after the last vote is cast to refuse any vote within reason.Written cards are allowed. (Must be in written format, cards with blank pictures are not acceptable)Create a generic monster that supports Xyz SummoningRewards:The winner gets a rep from the loser.All voters get a rep for voting. Card ANoth, Guardian of the OverlayDARK, Level 4Warrior/Effect1600/1000During your opponent's Main Phase, you can: Immediately after this effect resolves, Xyz Summon using this card you control (this is a Quick Effect). If this card is used as an Xyz Material, the Xyz Monster gains the following effect: If this card is destroyed (by battle or by an opponent’s card effect): You can target 1 monster in your Graveyard; shuffle it into your Deck, and if you do, draw 1 card. Card BThis card cannot be Special Summoned. When this card is Normal Summoned or flipped face-up: You can banish 2 Level 4 ow lower monsters with the same Levels from your hand or Deck; Special Summon 1 Xyz Monster from your Extra Deck whose Rank is equal to their individual Levels, and attach this card to it as an Xyz Material. You cannot Special Summon other monsters during the turn you activate this card's effect. If this card is destroyed by an opponent's card effect and sent to the Graveyard; draw 1 card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yuuji Kazami Posted March 5, 2016 Report Share Posted March 5, 2016 KK. Rematch so I can get back that 1 loss? Want to make a Generic monster that supports Xyz Summoning? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathanael D. Striker Posted March 5, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 5, 2016 Want a chance to go 2-2 against me? Very well, bring it on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yuuji Kazami Posted March 5, 2016 Report Share Posted March 5, 2016 Kk. Time to redeem myself. Btw, PM me when you finish so I can send my card to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathanael D. Striker Posted March 8, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 8, 2016 GOGOGO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yuuji Kazami Posted March 8, 2016 Report Share Posted March 8, 2016 Bump because everyone is ignoring this. =/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dova Posted March 8, 2016 Report Share Posted March 8, 2016 Card A is pretty meh, to be honest. It has that Xyz Summon during your opponent's turn, and that effect given to the Summoned monster, so the monster is basically a +0, but I mean I don't really see any actual uses for this with current cards today. The only thing I see being used is the on Summon effect, because you can't even Xyz Summon as a quick effect on your turn, sadly. Card B is almost balanced, with its effect on Normal Summon being useful whenever and having prevention of other Summons on it AND only on Normal Summons. However, its problem lies in being able to Summon any Xyz monster below Rank 4, ignoring how many mats it would normally require, or what it would require for those mats. I mean, you could go straight into Black Ray Lancer with this card, and practically ANY non-generic R4 or lower monster. I find this a bit too powerful, considering there is even compensation if it gets Solemned, and even though it doesn't Xyz Summon, it still gives rather fast compensation, considering you could even banish Kozmo monsters, or Necroface if you are using troll.dek. Vote for Card C, with Card A being weak, and Card B being overpowered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathanael D. Striker Posted March 8, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 8, 2016 0-0-1 then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yuuji Kazami Posted March 9, 2016 Report Share Posted March 9, 2016 Bump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yuuji Kazami Posted March 10, 2016 Report Share Posted March 10, 2016 Bump again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Flyer - Sakura Posted March 10, 2016 Report Share Posted March 10, 2016 If I read this correctly, deadline should've come about 18 hours ago (but it's a 0-0-1 result). Guess I have to tiebreak. Card A at least lets you Xyz Summon with it, but since we got that new Trap Card (I forgot what it's called) that's essentially the Xyz equivalent of Urgent Tuning, I don't see much use for this card. That, and while it can recycle stuff when it gets popped + a free draw, Castel is still a thing and so is other forms of non-destructive removal. Card B gives access to any Rank 4 and under Xyz you want, though you can't revive said monster otherwise because of its constraints AND you can't SS other things during the turn. One thing that would be worrisome (without the restriction) was going into something like Ptolemaeus and then going the Nova -> Infinity route (well, assuming you can hold off a turn or something, or some Rank-Up into a 5 on the opponent's turn), but it's banned in both formats for now. But otherwise, being able to access any R4 and under Xyz regardless of requirements is kind of unsettling. ----Honestly, I'd vote card C on this, but since Striker/Yuuji probably want to get this over with, I'm going to have to vote A for balancing reasons (it's not exactly great, but at least it's still usable for whatever it's worth now). Restricted to R4s, but a good chunk of Decks go into them anyway (if you can make space for this). B would've gotten it if there were some additional constraints on what it could summon, bar for the R4 thing. As-is, not so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yuuji Kazami Posted March 10, 2016 Report Share Posted March 10, 2016 If I read this correctly, deadline should've come about 18 hours ago (but it's a 0-0-1 result). Guess I have to tiebreak. Card A at least lets you Xyz Summon with it, but since we got that new Trap Card (I forgot what it's called) that's essentially the Xyz equivalent of Urgent Tuning, I don't see much use for this card. That, and while it can recycle stuff when it gets popped + a free draw, Castel is still a thing and so is other forms of non-destructive removal. Card B gives access to any Rank 4 and under Xyz you want, though you can't revive said monster otherwise because of its constraints AND you can't SS other things during the turn. One thing that would be worrisome (without the restriction) was going into something like Ptolemaeus and then going the Nova -> Infinity route (well, assuming you can hold off a turn or something, or some Rank-Up into a 5 on the opponent's turn), but it's banned in both formats for now. But otherwise, being able to access any R4 and under Xyz regardless of requirements is kind of unsettling. ----Honestly, I'd vote card C on this, but since Striker/Yuuji probably want to get this over with, I'm going to have to vote A for balancing reasons (it's not exactly great, but at least it's still usable for whatever it's worth now). Restricted to R4s, but a good chunk of Decks go into them anyway (if you can make space for this). B would've gotten it if there were some additional constraints on what it could summon, bar for the R4 thing. As-is, not so much.To go back on your comment for Ptolemaeus: Unformed Abyss does not create 3 Xyz Materials upon activation of its effect, even with the SS restraint removed. It's only Special Summoning a Rank 4 or lower Xyz, with Xyz Core then being attached to it. Tellarknight Ptolemaeus requires 3 Xyz Materials to resolve his first effect, and even if he he gets to attach a Tellar Xyz from the Extra at the EP, he would only be able to make it to 3 Xyz Materials at the EP after the EP during the turn that he was Summoned in. Nevertheless, Ptolemaeus is banned anyways, so it's not much of a big deal. I was very surprised by the negativity of this card when I initially believed it to be balanced. After resolving core, you wouldn't be able to SS anything else for the remainder of the turn, including the effect of another Abyss in case you attempt to re-use it. This prevents abusal of Rank-ups, Xyz Evolutions, or any other type of combo that revolves around SSing monsters, such as Bahamut Shark. Abyss was created as a push card in order to get out Rank 4 or lower Xyz faster. Aside from Kozmos, and maybe Shiranui, I really can't see how this card is so unsettling with its stats and effect since it does lock the SS down. I can't see how your opponent would find it impossible to counter the monster Summoned by this effect. The additional effect for draw was meant for in case Abyss gets solemned or something of the like while face-down. Also, its stats are pretty much non-existent. Not only that, it still requires two monsters of the same Level to resolve. In a non-Kozmo/Shiranui deck, it burns out your Level 3's/4's and below pretty fast if you attempt to use Abyss's effect more than once per game. Either way, since you did act a tiebreaker and that the deadline has passed, I won't be pushing any reconsideration. However, I still would like to state that I find it puzzling about jumping out a generic Rank 4 or lower monster would change the game-state in a single turn with the SS restraint after. So I guess it's technically 1-0-1 for Striker. Guess the record is 3-1 now, gg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathanael D. Striker Posted March 10, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 10, 2016 Yea. And since folks didn't realize it, my card is supposed to be an Xyz-equivalent to Formula Synchron... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yuuji Kazami Posted March 11, 2016 Report Share Posted March 11, 2016 Yea. And since folks didn't realize it, my card is supposed to be an Xyz-equivalent to Formula Synchron...I think because it's not: "When this monster is Xyz Summoned, you can draw 1 card" so they didn't recognize it. I didn't either. =/ Still can't wrap my head around how a deck can abuse this card to a point to make it OP. It's not as if this effect cannot be negated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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