Tinkerer Posted February 26, 2016 Report Share Posted February 26, 2016 http://nerdleaks.com/videogames/nintendo-will-announce-pokemon-sun-and-moon-tomorrow-157So apparently people suspect Nintendo to announce these as new titles tomorrow. I can't wait to see what they plan to deliver this time around! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EliminateHRN Posted February 26, 2016 Report Share Posted February 26, 2016 I thought we agreed to keep theories/discussion on these in the Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire thread until they were officially announced? Still, I'm looking forward to whatever they reveal tomorrow, whether it is Sun and Moon or something else entirely. I just hope for something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Flyer - Sakura Posted February 26, 2016 Report Share Posted February 26, 2016 It would've been better if you had waited another 12 hours to make the thread (after Nintendo releases the information on everything and we know more about if this is going to be Gen 7). Likely will be, but wait for confirmation. (I mentioned that we should get one, but AFTER we know more) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted February 26, 2016 Report Share Posted February 26, 2016 Agree the thread should have been made until after the direct, but at the same time, locking this to unlock it in 10 hours seems weird. Especially since I might not be on and the thread might not get unlocked until much later. So I'm going to leave this open and tell everyone to not post in it until after the direct. In the mean time, speculation can be had in the OR/AS thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitchermitcher Posted February 26, 2016 Report Share Posted February 26, 2016 Why not just post here and then lock/delete the thread if it turns out not to be real? Dude went out of his way to make a thread, might as well get some use out of it. I got a feeling it's pretty legit. It is more or less about time for a new gen, if you ask me. Although the rumors saying it's not quite 7th gen but instead 6.5th gen sounds pretty interesting too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted February 26, 2016 Report Share Posted February 26, 2016 Why not just post here and then lock/delete the thread if it turns out not to be real? Dude went out of his way to make a thread, might as well get some use out of it. I got a feeling it's pretty legit. It is more or less about time for a new gen, if you ask me. Although the rumors saying it's not quite 7th gen but instead 6.5th gen sounds pretty interesting too. The games are real. The trademark 100% exists. I personally would have preferred the OR/AS thread handle all the "what is this going to be" and this start with discussion of the direct and what that could mean then go into long shot speculation. That could certainly be the wrong approach though. If we look at the gen time line we could easily have another year before 7. I'll focus on the Japanese timeline and include English in parentheses. Gen 1: 1363 (748) Gen 2: 1096 (885) Gen 3: 1407 (1495) Gen 4: 1451 (1412) Gen 5: 1120 (953) Gen 6: ???? Assuming Gen 7 comes out on the game day this year it would be 1096. Assuming it comes out on the same day next year it would be 1461. Those numbers fall in line with the past release dates. The reason it might feel like its time for the next gen is because the English timeline is SUPER compressed compared to Japanese for most of Pokemon's lifespan. If it came out later this year it would be the 3rd longest Gen in the US, but tied for shortest in Japan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinkerer Posted February 26, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2016 Sorry if this thread was premature. I don't have a post/follow the OR/AS thread, so I didn't know that speculation on these was in that thread. I'd actually only just found out about the trademarks from my bro and didn't see a thread on this made already. In any case, and regardless of any and all information we get about these games, I have a definite preference of Moon over Sun if only because I'm a night person over a day person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted February 26, 2016 Report Share Posted February 26, 2016 The games are real. The trademark 100% exists. I personally would have preferred the OR/AS thread handle all the "what is this going to be" and this start with discussion of the direct and what that could mean then go into long shot speculation. That could certainly be the wrong approach though. If we look at the gen time line we could easily have another year before 7. I'll focus on the Japanese timeline and include English in parentheses.Gen 1: 1363 (748)Gen 2: 1096 (885)Gen 3: 1407 (1495)Gen 4: 1451 (1412)Gen 5: 1120 (953)Gen 6: ???? Assuming Gen 7 comes out on the game day this year it would be 1096. Assuming it comes out on the same day next year it would be 1461. Those numbers fall in line with the past release dates. The reason it might feel like its time for the next gen is because the English timeline is SUPER compressed compared to Japanese for most of Pokemon's lifespan. If it came out later this year it would be the 3rd longest Gen in the US, but tied for shortest in Japan. Okay, it might just be the fact I already have a headache, but... WHAT DO THOSE NUMBERS MEAN?! I can't make heads or tails of those numbers. It doesn't match up with month, day, or year, so I'm not sure how it works in the context of "timeline". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UltimateIRS Posted February 26, 2016 Report Share Posted February 26, 2016 Okay, it might just be the fact I already have a headache, but... WHAT DO THOSE NUMBERS MEAN?! I can't make heads or tails of those numbers. It doesn't match up with month, day, or year, so I'm not sure how it works in the context of "timeline". It's the number of days between the release of the first games in that generation and the release of the first games in the next. That is, how many days each generation lasted before the next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted February 26, 2016 Report Share Posted February 26, 2016 Sorry if this thread was premature. I don't have a post/follow the OR/AS thread, so I didn't know that speculation on these was in that thread. I'd actually only just found out about the trademarks from my bro and didn't see a thread on this made already. In any case, and regardless of any and all information we get about these games, I have a definite preference of Moon over Sun if only because I'm a night person over a day person. Whats done is done. Its fine. Its not like having the thread is a BAD thing. I just would have preferred holding off until we had more concrete stuff to talk about. Okay, it might just be the fact I already have a headache, but... WHAT DO THOSE NUMBERS MEAN?! I can't make heads or tails of those numbers. It doesn't match up with month, day, or year, so I'm not sure how it works in the context of "timeline". I'm referring to the overall length of a generation. IE: Gen 1 lasted 1363 days, Gen 2 1096, etc. Of the 5 Gens, 2 were 3 years with the other 3 being close to 4. As such, if we didn't start a new Gen this year it wouldn't be that odd given that the average length of a gen is 1287 days (about 3.5 years). I included the US lengths because when I was looking at the numbers I realized it would make sense for people to feel like we should be starting a new Gen soon since the Gens outside of Japan have tended to be much shorter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted February 26, 2016 Report Share Posted February 26, 2016 Basically confirmed as gen 7. They listed the first game in every generation by year then Sun/Moon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted February 26, 2016 Report Share Posted February 26, 2016 I like how the pokemon you train in the Gen 1 re-releases can be transferred via Bank to Sun & Moon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Warden Posted February 26, 2016 Report Share Posted February 26, 2016 It's good to know Bank will naturally be working with Sun & Moon, as I will transfer my living pokedex over to it for cheap completion of the dex. I also plan to get Moon, unless Sun has a version specific mon I think would be better for my team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King K. Azo Posted February 26, 2016 Report Share Posted February 26, 2016 I'm not sure, but they had a quick snippet of some people doing a model of a bird pokemon. Looked too long and thin to be any I know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted February 26, 2016 Report Share Posted February 26, 2016 I'm going to stand by the fact that these will be the "Johto" for Kalos. Kalos is a "Re-Gen 1", with making a new canon for Mega Evolution/etc. to exist, and has many throwbacks to Gen 1. Given the lck of a third version and the game being on the same hardware as the gen before it, Gen 7 is probably "Re-Gen 2". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tourmaline Posted February 26, 2016 Report Share Posted February 26, 2016 So megas for Lunatone/Solrock and the second generations starters with them being selectable with their mega stone like the first generation starters with Sycamore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitchermitcher Posted February 26, 2016 Report Share Posted February 26, 2016 I'm not sure, but they had a quick snippet of some people doing a model of a bird pokemon. Looked too long and thin to be any I know.Dunno about long and thin but yeah, I don't recognize it either. It's similar to a Torchic but in a later shot it's zoomed in and colored and you see it's quite different in color scheme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vla1ne Posted February 26, 2016 Report Share Posted February 26, 2016 i hope at least one new legendary is based off Quetzalcoatl. also, Lunatone and Solrock are both basic pokemon, they need evolutions, not mega evolutions imo. I'm hoping they do something similar to the regi series with them as well, where you need them to unlock a cavern or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerion Brightflame Posted February 26, 2016 Report Share Posted February 26, 2016 I'm expecting if anything this to be in the region bordering Kalos, (Whom that historical war occured), which means it's probably German, Spanish or British based to Kalos's France. For similar reasons to Black that is about this being a gen 2 rehash to Kalos's gen one. Just so long as they don't play things as safe and as dull as they did for Kalos, I'll be satisfied. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Sage Posted February 26, 2016 Report Share Posted February 26, 2016 I'm expecting if anything this to be in the region bordering Kalos, (Whom that historical war occured), which means it's probably German, Spanish or British based to Kalos's France. For similar reasons to Black that is about this being a gen 2 rehash to Kalos's gen one. Just so long as they don't play things as safe and as dull as they did for Kalos, I'll be satisfied. Wasn't Kalos like only one part of France geographically? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sixty Posted February 26, 2016 Report Share Posted February 26, 2016 oh boy if you guys think this is kalos' johto will it take place in germany since kalos is france? Ja, ich will diese Videospiele, wahrscheinlich Sonne. Ich würde allerdings beide bekommen. alternatively they go for spain, or england, or italy, or... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vla1ne Posted February 26, 2016 Report Share Posted February 26, 2016 there was that one guy in my game who was speaking german, so it may stand to reason that the next country may be based on germany. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingdom Xathers Posted February 26, 2016 Report Share Posted February 26, 2016 ... wait, hold the phone. If the glitches in the Gen 1 games are still intact in the eShop versions, and the Pokemon from the eShop Versions can be transferred over to Sun and Moon... ... oh gawd, someone's gonna attempt to transfer MissingNo./ 'M' Block. Unless, of course, there are countermeasures put in place to prevent this (which, hopefully, there will be) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted February 26, 2016 Report Share Posted February 26, 2016 Singapore here we come? Dunno about long and thin but yeah, I don't recognize it either. It's similar to a Torchic but in a later shot it's zoomed in and colored and you see it's quite different in color scheme.The color is just the model being highlighted. They're using Maya. Anyway here's all the images worth noting: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinkerer Posted February 26, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2016 Except for the crest on its head, it looks a lot like Fletchling. Rounded head shape, long dark beak, notched wings... ...in any case I'd like to think of Sun/Moon's relationship to X/Y would be similar to GSC to RBY, but there are several points against it, the primary one being it's an odd-generation game. Odd-generations have notably stood alone and brought in huge numbers of pokemon while even-numbered ones are more supplementary. In any case, even if they didn't necessarily follow that trend, they probably will WANT to make a large number of new pokemon for the next gen anyway considering the raw number of new pokemon in X/Y was a bit lacklustre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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