Nathanael D. Striker Posted July 22, 2015 Report Share Posted July 22, 2015 Rules:All Leaderboard rules apply. PM the card to me. Cards due 8:04pm PDT on 7/23. First to 3 votes or most votes by 9:06pm PDT on 7/23 wins.If there are no votes after the deadline, next vote wins. All voters must elaborate on their votes. My opponent and I have the right to refuse votes, but must explain why we don't accept it. Written cards are allowed. (Must be in written format, cards with blank pictures are not acceptable) Create a card that contributes to/supports Chaos-themed decks. Rewards: The winner gets a rep from the loser. All voters get a rep for voting. Card AChaotic Rebirth Dragon****DARKDragon/Effect1600/1300This card is also treated as a LIGHT monster. When this card leaves the field, Special Summon 1 "Chaotic Rebirth Dragon" from your Deck. During the turn this card is banished, LIGHT and DARK monsters cannot be targeted by card effects.Card B This card cannot be used as a Synchro Material Monster, except for the summon of a Dragon-Type Synchro Monster. If this card is banished: Special Summon it in face-up attack position. You can only use this effect of "Kujakuryu" once per turn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(GigaDrillBreaker) Posted July 22, 2015 Report Share Posted July 22, 2015 Sure. I will do this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathanael D. Striker Posted July 22, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 22, 2015 Sure. I will do this one.First Toyo, now you? Welcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathanael D. Striker Posted July 22, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 22, 2015 Ready for action. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Warden Posted July 22, 2015 Report Share Posted July 22, 2015 I... I... wow. This, this is a hard one. I don't really want to vote for either, but, I have to go with B. It's not anything to write about; hell, it's unnecessarily nerfed to oblivion. It really didn't need that Dragons only clause, to be perfectly honest. I mean, it would have made a lovely partner to the Chaos Serpents (Wyverburster and Collapserpent), especially for decent Level 6 plays. Or even a maker of 8s with Chaos Sorcerer. But, as is, it's pretty much inferior to the likes of Glow-Up Bulb and Plaguspreader Zombie, as they possess the benefit of variety. Granted, even without the clause it would still really be inferior to them. You have to jump through hoops a little to get off its effect, but to be honest that makes it all the more worth it. But, it's still better than its opponent, though I dunno how worthwhile that is. This... just, card A, what? This is literally everything Reborn Tengu WISHES it could be and more. It's DARK AND LIGHT, it's a Dragon, and it does the Tengu thing of instantly replacing itself. But if that wasn't the cherry on top, it also provides blanket protection from targeting the very second it's banished. This thing is not only three walls in one that could very easily be reloaded with certain techs, but it's also a Synchro producing machine that easily aids any deck in need of Chaos and easy sychro materials. I shudder to think how horrifying the Synchro Plant deck could have been had this guy existed instead of Tengu. This card is a horrific blend of everything right. The right Type, the right Attribute(s), the right effects. It's, just horrifying really, and it is simply too good. It is just, too good to exist, and would be a horrific buff as banishing it grants all LIGHT and DARKs blanket immunity. HELL, it wouldn't be remiss in Shaddolls as they could very easily use it as fusion fodder, since it being DARK and LIGHT lets it aid in the making of Wynnda or Construct, two different Fusions from a pot of one. And if you use it from the field you lose nothing. So, while it's not great, I'm going with B for the sake of sanity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathanael D. Striker Posted July 22, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 22, 2015 0-1 Card B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(GigaDrillBreaker) Posted July 22, 2015 Report Share Posted July 22, 2015 Casually letting Broken know that Card A, unlike Tengu, can and will miss timing when used as a synchro material, or as a cost for much of anything, so the broken combos mentioned are nonexistent. I am unsure of what Striker thinks, but I wouldn't mind you reconsidering your vote with this information you were previously unaware of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathanael D. Striker Posted July 23, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 23, 2015 Casually letting Broken know that Card A, unlike Tengu, can and will miss timing when used as a synchro material, or as a cost for much of anything, so the broken combos mentioned are nonexistent.I am unsure of what Striker thinks, but I wouldn't mind you reconsidering your vote with this information you were previously unaware of.If you want Broken to reconsider, then that's fine with me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(GigaDrillBreaker) Posted July 23, 2015 Report Share Posted July 23, 2015 Actually, I mistook card A's effect for being optional. It in fact does not miss timing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Warden Posted July 23, 2015 Report Share Posted July 23, 2015 Yeah, see, I looked up Reborn Tengu to make a comparison for the effect, and aside from the updated wording, they were the same. Which is why I knew it worked the same way that Tengu does. Plus, even if I didn't make the comparison, the effect is mandatory. And as I recall, mandatory effects can't miss timing like "When...: You can" effects do. Although, in hindsight, reading card B again makes me kinda glad it's a bit more restricted. Being banished from anywhere is a slippery slope, as it can even turn the likes of Gold Sarc into a free SS for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queen of the Abyss Posted July 23, 2015 Report Share Posted July 23, 2015 Card A is trying way too hard. It's as if they knew Reborn Tengu would be hilarious with the Black and White Dragons if it synergized, so they made it work with it. As a result, this card is a 2 card OTK with just it and a Black or White Dragon. (I can expand upon the full combo if it is so wished.) What's more, it protects the monsters you try to combo with. I just don't see how this is a good design at all. Card B on the other hand, is well aware of how good really is, and limits itself too hard. A restriction to attributes would have been interesting, but as is your only options are Orient Dragon and Iron Chain Dragon when used with one of the Dragons. You still have Lightpulsar Dragon and Darkflare Dragon though, which is interesting actually the more I think about it. This actually looks like the start of a decent set of support, and I would be interested to either give it a good option in something like DP or look at it again in a year. Even if it had a good target with it, I still would call it fair as it is OPT and you don't have the same bonkers potential a function like this one has. With that, I'm gonna go with Card B. As stated, A tried too hard and went on abusive territory, whereas Card B is really balanced and is a card whose future I would look forward to seeing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathanael D. Striker Posted July 23, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 23, 2015 0-2 Card B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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