Lexadin Posted October 17, 2011 Report Share Posted October 17, 2011 [center]As you might've noticed from either the Tags or the Title, I've made some Toon support. This however, is quite a special Toon, seeing as it's not based on an already existing card. Now I can hear you think: "[i]WHAT!? But that's blasphomy![/i]" or "[i]Toons are noobish, next.[/i]" To the 1st one I'd like to say that this card is special in another way. As it is a Fusion. Yes that's right, a Toon Fusion. Now I must say that 1 of its parts is not an Toon on its own, but it just didn't seem right to just make a Toon out of that card, seeing as they don't look that much alike. To the 2nd one I'd like to say, that is partially true. But that's why we have the CM, don't we? To support Sub-Types/Archetypes that we think needs it or we like. Which is what I did. Now I presume noone actually read this. I'll just go to the card. [img]http://img855.imageshack.us/img855/9987/20638k.jpg[/img] [size=1]Img by HP Doom[/size] [i]2 Toon Monsters Must be Special Summoned (from your Extra Deck) by sending the above cards from your hand or side of the field to the Graveyard while you control "Toon World". (You do not use "Polymerization".) Cannot be Special Summoned from the Graveyard. There can only be 1 face-up "Toon Magma Dragon" on the field. You can treat this card's name as "Toon World". When "Toon World" is destroyed: Destroy this card. If you control a "Toon World" other then this card, and your opponent does not control a Toon Monster: This card can attack directly. Once per turn: You can discard 1 card, and select 1 other face-up Toon Monster you control; It can attack your opponent directly this turn, but its effect is negated, until the End Phase.[/i] [b]NOTE:[/b] Just don't comment on my 'faulty OCG' if you don't also give an correction of it. If this aplies to this card that is. [/center] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Darkness Posted October 17, 2011 Report Share Posted October 17, 2011 Two sides of my thoughts: 1. Interesting, if almost impossible to Summon. And any returning card says hi to 'Toon World'. 2. Turn this into a 'Raptinus'. As in, fused from two Toons with an effect that helps Toons, while possibly being a Toon itself. That is probably a better option for Toon support, since a FIRE Rock/Pyro would be quite good. That way, it doesn't [b]have[/b] to be a Toon counterpart, something that no-one seems to have realised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexadin Posted October 17, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 17, 2011 [quote name='Max Darkness' timestamp='1318883772' post='5584786'] Two sides of my thoughts: 1. Interesting, if almost impossible to Summon. And any returning card says hi to 'Toon World'. 2. Turn this into a 'Raptinus'. As in, fused from two Toons with an effect that helps Toons, while possibly being a Toon itself. That is probably a better option for Toon support, since a FIRE Rock/Pyro would be quite good. That way, it doesn't [b]have[/b] to be a Toon counterpart, something that no-one seems to have realised. [/quote] 1. *snaps fingers* I keep on forgetting that loophole. 2. I actually have thought of that, but seeing as, unlike 'Raptinus' who looks like it's stitched together from multiple creatures, this card's img doesn't seem to look like it would be made out of multiple Toons, without an extra addition. So my reasons are merely asthetic. But I do like the idea of using any Toon as it's 2nd Material. I'll think about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Darkness Posted October 17, 2011 Report Share Posted October 17, 2011 [quote name='Lexadin' timestamp='1318885268' post='5584868'] 2. I actually have thought of that, but seeing as, unlike 'Raptinus' who looks like it's stitched together from multiple creatures, this card's img doesn't seem to look like it would be made out of multiple Toons, without an extra addition. So my reasons are merely asthetic. But I do like the idea of using any Toon as it's 2nd Material. I'll think about that. [/quote] To me, it looks almost as if it consumed them, rather than fused with them. So it could still work as a contact fusion, using its 'Fusion materials' to fuel its summon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexadin Posted October 17, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 17, 2011 [quote name='Max Darkness' timestamp='1318886947' post='5584950'] To me, it looks almost as if it consumed them, rather than fused with them. So it could still work as a contact fusion, using its 'Fusion materials' to fuel its summon. [/quote] Mhh, if you put it that way. It does sound possible. I'll think about it. EDIT: I've changed it somewhat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Darkness Posted October 17, 2011 Report Share Posted October 17, 2011 An interesting change; much better. But I would reduce the ATK and DEF somewhat. [b]OCG Fix:[/b] 2 Toon Monsters Must be Special Summoned (from your Extra Deck) by sending the above cards from your hand or side of the field to the Graveyard while you control "Toon World". (You do not use "Polymerization".) Cannot be Special Summoned from the Graveyard. You can treat this card's name as "Toon World". When "Toon World" is destroyed: Destroy this card. If you control "Toon World", and your opponent does not control a Toon Monster: This card can attack directly. Once per turn: You can discard 1 card, and select 1 other face-up Toon Monster you control; It can attack your opponent directly this turn, but its effect is negated, until the End Phase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted October 17, 2011 Report Share Posted October 17, 2011 ah, the toons again the attacking directly part, when you said select one other toon monster you control, change 1 thing make sure that other monster can't be ANOTHER Toon Magma Dragon, or it's easy OTK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweetie Belle Posted October 17, 2011 Report Share Posted October 17, 2011 [quote name='ragnarok1945' timestamp='1318893671' post='5585283'] ah, the toons again the attacking directly part, when you said select one other toon monster you control, change 1 thing make sure that other monster can't be ANOTHER Toon Magma Dragon, or it's easy OTK [/quote] Having 2 Magma Dragons out already IS and OTK. [i]If "Toon World" is on your side of the field and your opponent does not control a Toon Monster: this card can attack your opponent's Life Points directly.[/i] [i]This card's name is also treated as "Toon World'.[/i] Magma Dragon = Toon World. That means just by being there, it can pretty much attack directly already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexadin Posted October 19, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2011 [quote name='Max Darkness' timestamp='1318889799' post='5585117'] An interesting change; much better. But I would reduce the ATK and DEF somewhat. [b]OCG Fix:[/b] 2 Toon Monsters Must be Special Summoned (from your Extra Deck) by sending the above cards from your hand or side of the field to the Graveyard while you control "Toon World". (You do not use "Polymerization".) Cannot be Special Summoned from the Graveyard. You can treat this card's name as "Toon World". When "Toon World" is destroyed: Destroy this card. If you control "Toon World", and your opponent does not control a Toon Monster: This card can attack directly. Once per turn: You can discard 1 card, and select 1 other face-up Toon Monster you control; It can attack your opponent directly this turn, but its effect is negated, until the End Phase. [/quote] Thanks for the fix. [quote name='ragnarok1945' timestamp='1318893671' post='5585283'] ah, the toons again the attacking directly part, when you said select one other toon monster you control, change 1 thing make sure that other monster can't be ANOTHER Toon Magma Dragon, or it's easy OTK [/quote] [quote name='Discord' timestamp='1318894087' post='5585298'] Having 2 Magma Dragons out already IS and OTK. [i]If "Toon World" is on your side of the field and your opponent does not control a Toon Monster: this card can attack your opponent's Life Points directly.[/i] [i]This card's name is also treated as "Toon World'.[/i] Magma Dragon = Toon World. That means just by being there, it can pretty much attack directly already. [/quote] *facepalms* Doh! Forgot about that part. I'll see what I can do to avoid OTK's.EDIT: Alright it should no longer be a walking OTK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ragnarok1945 Posted October 21, 2011 Report Share Posted October 21, 2011 [quote name='Lexadin' timestamp='1319016029' post='5587878'] Thanks for the fix. *facepalms* Doh! Forgot about that part. I'll see what I can do to avoid OTK's. EDIT: Alright it should no longer be a walking OTK. [/quote] better. now I can give you 9/10 for it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexadin Posted October 22, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 22, 2011 Excelent, thank for your rating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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iGrowlithe Posted November 4, 2011 Report Share Posted November 4, 2011 Aww! Hes adorable! Like a Toon Lava Golem Maybe? If he was a Toon Lava Golem (not that he is and I love this idea anyway) then his effect of 'Contact Fusion' works around Lava Golem's theme. Anyway, I love the card. I don't really understand one thing though. It says "[i]You can treat this card's name as "Toon World". When "Toon World" is destroyed: [/i][i]Destroy this card.[/i]" Isnt that a bit redundant. And since he counts as Toon World, dosent that mean that this weakness dosent really count? I may just be a bit nooby to the rulings on this, but its just a thought. Otherwise, fun card. I was actually dueling Pegasus online last night and I thought to myself, why have they not expanded more on this like they did the Amazonesses? But, I digress. Fun card. Id use it. Oh! And it can still OTK. Two Toon Goblin Attack Forces. Im pretty sure that when Toon World is on the field they can attack directly anyway. I think. IDK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexadin Posted November 4, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 4, 2011 [quote name='Apex' timestamp='1320422511' post='5616657'] Aww! Hes adorable! Like a Toon Lava Golem Maybe? If he was a Toon Lava Golem (not that he is and I love this idea anyway) then his effect of 'Contact Fusion' works around Lava Golem's theme. [/quote] I actually planned it to be a Fusion of Lava Golem at first.. But as Lava Golem really doesn't fit the Toon theme. I changed it to 2 Generic Toons. [quote name='Apex' timestamp='1320422511' post='5616657'] Anyway, I love the card. I don't really understand one thing though. It says "[i]You can treat this card's name as "Toon World". When "Toon World" is destroyed: [/i][i]Destroy this card.[/i]" Isnt that a bit redundant. And since he counts as Toon World, dosent that mean that this weakness dosent really count? I may just be a bit nooby to the rulings on this, but its just a thought. [/quote] Actually, as you need another Toon World on the field for this card to be Summoned. If that Toon World is destroyed, so does this card. But that's its main use tbh. [quote name='Apex' timestamp='1320422511' post='5616657'] Otherwise, fun card. I was actually dueling Pegasus online last night and I thought to myself, why have they not expanded more on this like they did the Amazonesses? But, I digress. Fun card. Id use it. Oh! And it can still OTK. Two Toon Goblin Attack Forces. Im pretty sure that when Toon World is on the field they can attack directly anyway. I think. IDK. [/quote] Exactly what I thought. True, but 'Toon Goblin Attack Force' can't attack the turn they are Summoned, so you'll need to already have them on the field for it to work. But if you do manage that, it's an almost certain OTK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexadin Posted November 6, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 6, 2011 I guess the final Bumb? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iGrowlithe Posted November 6, 2011 Report Share Posted November 6, 2011 Sorry for my long winded post. Anywhos, love the card. And now I understand his ruling. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kato_Zenamara Posted November 6, 2011 Report Share Posted November 6, 2011 The card seems a bit redundant to me. It needs a Toon World to be summoned, it is treated as Toon World, but it dies if Toon World is destroyed. Since Toon World has to be on the field anyway, seems like a kinda pointless effect IMO, unless you pull some emergency provision shenanigans. The last effect is good I suppose, but its not like Toons need to be able to direct attack anymore than they do. The summoning conditions are WAAAY too lax and generic, and the card is WAAAY too powerful ATK and effect wise, especially to be supporting an already broken archetype. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexadin Posted November 6, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 6, 2011 [quote name='Apex' timestamp='1320610995' post='5622041'] Sorry for my long winded post. Anywhos, love the card. And now I understand his ruling. lol [/quote] Good to hear so. [quote name='Kato_Zenamara' timestamp='1320614768' post='5622189'] The card seems a bit redundant to me. It needs a Toon World to be summoned, it is treated as Toon World, but it dies if Toon World is destroyed. Since Toon World has to be on the field anyway, seems like a kinda pointless effect IMO, unless you pull some emergency provision shenanigans. The last effect is good I suppose, but its not like Toons need to be able to direct attack anymore than they do. The summoning conditions are WAAAY too lax and generic, and the card is WAAAY too powerful ATK and effect wise, especially to be supporting an already broken archetype. [/quote] *sigh* 'Emergency Provision'/any bouncing card = only way to use Toons. Actually all Toons excluding 'Toon DMG' cannot attack the turn they are Summoned, so it's mostly so they can attack directly the turn they are SSed. Lol, Toons broken? I don't know what kind of games you have been playing. But Toons are far from broken where I live. If you want to see broken cards, you should look at the 'Six Samurai's', 'Blackwings' or 'X-Sabers'. Also with 'Magic Cylinder' being at 2, and almost everyone using 'Bottemless Trap Hole', 'Dark Hole', 'Dimensional Prison', ect, a 4000 Beatstick isn't anything that's so feared anymore. Maybe in the good old days, but not now. What I'm trying to say is, that this isn't all that OP as you might think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kato_Zenamara Posted November 6, 2011 Report Share Posted November 6, 2011 Considering all you have to do is discard 2 toons to summon this from your extra deck, dark hole isn't a viable option to stop it. Also considering that most of the strong toons can get [i]Special Summoned[/i] with tributes, then this thing lets you attack directly with them, its pretty OP. If your opponent has D-prison, it only works on 1 monster anyway. You'll just have to choose between 4000, 3000, 2500, or 2400. Play like you have any sense and you won't attack with this thing first anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexadin Posted November 9, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 9, 2011 [quote name='Kato_Zenamara' timestamp='1320620027' post='5622399'] Considering all you have to do is discard 2 toons to summon this from your extra deck, dark hole isn't a viable option to stop it. Also considering that most of the strong toons can get [i]Special Summoned[/i] with tributes, then this thing lets you attack directly with them, its pretty OP. If your opponent has D-prison, it only works on 1 monster anyway. You'll just have to choose between 4000, 3000, 2500, or 2400. Play like you have any sense and you won't attack with this thing first anyway. [/quote] Do keep in mind that all that only works when Toon World is on the field. Now you will probebly say that this card is good enough of a replacement, however for it to actually be able to attack your opponent directly, you need another Toon World. Which when it is destroyed. Will nuke your Toons. Which is the basic Toon limitation. Also, to actually be able to Summon this card, you'll need a Toon World aswell. Now you can only control 1 of these cards so it has to come from the actual Toon World. Now is the 1000LP cost of Toon World not that big of a deal, but you only have 4 of them. Now if you, like any smart Toon user, use Toon Table of Content to grab it from your Deck. You'd better REALLY prepared when you play it. Seeing as MST is now unlimited. + There are always the 'Solemn' cards, and Dark Bribe luring behind your opponent's Spell and Traps. Heck, even Raigeki Break can totaly ruin Toon Decks (including when this card is on the field). Therefor a 4k Beatstick that helps Toons, isn't that big of a threat. Also, Threatening Roar and Waboku say hi. And only the high lvled Toons+ Toon Mermaid can be SSed by thier own effect. Which are restricted to Toon World aswell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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