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[M.D.] A Break from the Norm

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Since a lot of my latest creations have been meta-striking trumps, I decided to go to the other end of the spectrum for a new archetype. The first member of which is shown here.

Enjoy.

(Oh, and if you can spot how this card continues my recent trend of exploiting holes in YGO mechanics, you'll uncover this card's true power)


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[b]Effect:[/b] 2 Level 2 or lower Normal Monsters
This card is always treated as a Normal Monster, and not as an Effect Monster. While this card is face-up on the field, up to twice per turn, if a Level 2 or lower Normal Monster you control would be destroyed by battle it is not. Once per turn, you can discard 1 card to select 1 Level 2 or lower Normal Monster you control. It can attack your opponent directly this turn.

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If I'm reading this right, the first sentence ("This card is always treated as a Normal Monster, and not as an Effect Monster.") would imply that it isn't affected by cards similar to [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Skill_Drain"]Skill Drain[/url]. This also means you can select itself, a copy of itself, or a similar card to protect from battle destruction twice per turn. Though the last of the effects seems pretty normal compared to the first two effects, since there's no way this card can end up in your hand (unless you made similar cards that have the same first effect).

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[quote name='Shattered Sky' timestamp='1310771560' post='5358697']
hmm, interesting,but without support, it wouldn't last long... 7/10
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Well, there is a relatively sizeable amount of Level 2 or lower Normal Monster support; it's just quite old.


[quote name='darkstar_316' timestamp='1310773378' post='5358788']
Haha. Nice. It can target itself. Definitely playing with the rules.
Pic is okay.
OCG is perfect.
Seems pretty balanced.
I like it.
9.5/10
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Thanks for rating.


[quote name='ShadowKyogre' timestamp='1310773704' post='5358807']
If I'm reading this right, the first sentence ("This card is always treated as a Normal Monster, and not as an Effect Monster.") would imply that it isn't affected by cards similar to [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Skill_Drain"]Skill Drain[/url]. This also means you can select itself, a copy of itself, or a similar card to protect from battle destruction twice per turn. Though the last of the effects seems pretty normal compared to the first two effects, since there's no way this card can end up in your hand (unless you made similar cards that have the same first effect).
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Yes. Any card that mentions 'Effect Monster Card effects' cannot affect this. What's this going to your hand got to do with the effect? It's a simple discard-for-cost effect.

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[quote name='Max Darkness' timestamp='1310776617' post='5358954']
Yes. Any card that mentions 'Effect Monster Card effects' cannot affect this. What's this going to your hand got to do with the effect? It's a simple discard-for-cost effect.
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I know, I know. It's just random thought bubble that popped into my head if you made similar cards. Otherwise you can pretty much ignore what I said about the discarding thing ^^;.

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[quote name='Maha Guns' timestamp='1310813930' post='5359923']
You say this card have great power? can you tell me, because i still learn in TCGing Max.
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Since it never treats itself as an Effect Monster, almost no Monster negation cards can chain to this, or negate it.

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[quote name='Maha Guns' timestamp='1310820364' post='5360028']
Relation with current playable Decks? It support Normal in the text i suppose
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The short-lived Normal Direct Damage Decks from a few years ago. This is more a case of revitalising those Decks.


[quote name='ragnarok1945' timestamp='1310825748' post='5360187']
it's a shame the last effect says lv2 or lower

that's not going to be able to do much damage, I would have made it lv3 so you can REALLY chip your opponent via Injection Fairy Lily or something

9.2/10
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Two examples:

If you control "Pristine Vestal". Summon "Atlantean Pikeman" (1400 ATK). Activate "Thousand Energy". [i](ATK: 1400 -> 2400)[/i] Equip "United We Stand" or similar. [i](ATK: 2400 -> 4000)[/i] Use "Pristine Vestal" to allow "Atlantean Pikeman" to attack directly.

or

Summon "Oppressed People" (400 ATK). Activate "Thousand Energy", "Triangle Power" and "United We Stand". [i](ATK: 400 -> 1400 -> 3400 -> 5000)[/i] Use "Pristine Vestal" to allow it to attack directly.


Decks that would use this as their tactical trump rely on keeping their Levels low, but their ATK unnaturally high through Equips and ATK-reducing cards aimed at the opponent. They also have access to the vast array of Normal Monster support that appeared in the "GX" era.

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Keep it Level 2 (for the last effect) it's good that way, I love the picture and fits well with its name.

You can even win in 1 turn with this if you have the right cards in hand.

Perfect for "Atlantean Pikeman", "Clown Zombie" and many others with equip cards you mentioned above and maybe also including "Megamorph" there too. Nice 9/10 ;)

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[quote name='â–¼AlcaNdeRâ–¼' timestamp='1310833448' post='5360441']
Keep it Level 2 (for the last effect) it's good that way, I love the picture and fits well with its name.

You can even win in 1 turn with this if you have the right cards in hand.

Perfect for "Atlantean Pikeman", "Clown Zombie" and many others with equip cards you mentioned above and maybe also including "Megamorph" there too. Nice 9/10 ;)
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Well, since it is based solely on the Level 2 and lower Normal Monster Deck that was designed to be used with 'Ancient Sanctuary' and cards of that era, it needs to be Level 2 and lower.

Exactly.

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[quote name='Animefan #1' timestamp='1310833907' post='5360489']
Normal Monster Direct Attack Decks become very powerful with this card, but to be honest I'm not sure if that's a good thing. You could put a Type or Attribute limitation on the second effect so cards like Atlantean Pikeman can't abuse this? I'm not sure.

6/10
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That doesn't matter since now it's hard to keep even 1 monster in the field, even more if its a Normal Monster that can be destroyed easily. Also is something situational if you have the right cards you rock,but you dont draw the cards you need like in the anime right?

Anyways if this can be abused somehow i would add to that this card can only be Fusion Summoned.

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[quote name='%E2%96%BCAlcaNdeR%E2%96%BC' timestamp='1310834454' post='5360545']
That doesn't matter since now it's hard to keep even 1 monster in the field, even more if its a Normal Monster that can be destroyed easily. Also is something situational if you have the right cards you rock,but you dont draw the cards you need like in the anime right?

Anyways if this can be abused somehow i would add to that this card can only be Fusion Summoned.
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The first effect prevents Normal Monsters from being destroyed, so keeping monsters on the field to set up OTKs isn't a problem. Polymerization has cards like King of the Swamp to search for it, and the materials are very generic so this can be Summoned very easily.

I'm actually a fan of the concept, it's just that when I look back through the thread I can see some OTKs that are very powerful.

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[quote name='Animefan #1' timestamp='1310833907' post='5360489']
Normal Monster Direct Attack Decks become very powerful with this card, but to be honest I'm not sure if that's a good thing. You could put a Type or Attribute limitation on the second effect so cards like Atlantean Pikeman can't abuse this? I'm not sure.

6/10
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The whole point of this is to allow "Atlantean Pikeman", "Clown Zombie" and any other high-ATK Level 2 or lower Normal to strike through. Since your monsters will be out-performed by your opponent's monsters, you need to attack directly to deal damage. Also, considering Level 2 and lower Normals rarely share any Attribute or Type, it would be the death blow to this if it was restricted.


[quote name='Animefan #1' timestamp='1310835398' post='5360586']
The first effect prevents Normal Monsters from being destroyed, so keeping monsters on the field to set up OTKs isn't a problem. Polymerization has cards like King of the Swamp to search for it, and the materials are very generic so this can be Summoned very easily.

I'm actually a fan of the concept, it's just that when I look back through the thread I can see some OTKs that are very powerful.
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Only by battle. Not by effects, and since effect destruction is incredibly easy in the modern game, its protection effect is limited at best. Also, you might not loose your monsters, but a 3000 ATK "Red Dragon Archfiend" plowing into this is still going to hurt. And because you can't really rely on your monsters to defend you (since they top out at 1400 ATK and 2100 DEF), if you get into a difficult position, you aren't going to get out without a miracle.


[quote name='â–¼AlcaNdeRâ–¼' timestamp='1310834454' post='5360545']
That doesn't matter since now it's hard to keep even 1 monster in the field, even more if its a Normal Monster that can be destroyed easily. Also is something situational if you have the right cards you rock,but you dont draw the cards you need like in the anime right?

Anyways if this can be abused somehow i would add to that this card can only be Fusion Summoned.
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Again, adding a Summon restriction would prevent this from being useable. It needs to be able to constantly come back, along with your other monsters to actually pose a threat. Unlike other tactical trumps, like "Gyzarus" which can hit for 2400 and then set up some more combos, the use of "Triangle Power" and "Thousand Energy" wipes your field at the end of the turn, and using only one means you'll be dealing about the same amount of damage for more of a loss.

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[quote name='Max%20Darkness' timestamp='1310836361' post='5360627']
The whole point of this is to allow "Atlantean Pikeman", "Clown Zombie" and any other high-ATK Level 2 or lower Normal to strike through. Since your monsters will be out-performed by your opponent's monsters, you need to attack directly to deal damage. Also, considering Level 2 and lower Normals rarely share any Attribute or Type, it would be the death blow to this if it was restricted.




Only by battle. Not by effects, and since effect destruction is incredibly easy in the modern game, its protection effect is limited at best. Also, you might not loose your monsters, but a 3000 ATK "Red Dragon Archfiend" plowing into this is still going to hurt. And because you can't really rely on your monsters to defend you (since they top out at 1400 ATK and 2100 DEF), if you get into a difficult position, you aren't going to get out without a miracle.[/quote]
Well you've convinced me, thanks for the detailed reply. How good is this compared to modern cards then?

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[quote name='Animefan #1' timestamp='1310836991' post='5360642']
Well you've convinced me, thanks for the detailed reply. How good is this compared to modern cards then?
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Most likely Tier 3, so not fantastic, but capable of putting up a fight. Once I create more support, it will be better.

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[quote name='Shattered Sky' timestamp='1310837640' post='5360654']
hmm, upon looking up LV2 support, I guess your right, this is a great card.
9/10
massive combo= gravity bind + prestine vestal + mokey mokey's and mokey mokey smackdown.
(and we thought they were usless!)
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Thank you.

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