Max Darkness vs. Mr. Striker vs. Daemon [Begin Voting]

[Max Darkness]

Since the three of us were arguing, we decided to settle it the old-fashioned way.

[b]Conditions:[/b] A Death Synchro unrelated to any existing archetype whose effect dealt with your opponent's hand, Deck and/or Extra Deck.

[b]Prize:[/b] Victor gets 50 points from the other two.

[b]Voting:[/b] First to five votes wins. All votes must have a good reason or they won't be counted.


[i]N.B. A [b]Death Synchro[/b] is a Synchro Monster that can only be Synchro Summoned from your Graveyard, instead of the Extra Deck.[/i]


[center][b][u]Max Darkness[/b][/u]

[IMG]http://i51.tinypic.com/6nuluu.png[/IMG][/center]

[b]Effect:[/b] 1 DARK Tuner + 1 or more non-Tuner monsters
This card can only be Synchro Summoned from the Graveyard. When this card is Synchro Summoned, you can banish any number of DARK monsters in your Graveyard to have both players select an equal number of cards from their opponent's Deck, and send them to the Graveyard face-down. (Max. 5) Cards sent by this effect cannot leave the Graveyard, except by this card's effect. During their Draw Phase, either player can add 1 of the cards sent by this card's effect to their hand instead of conducting a normal draw. When this card leaves the field, flip all face-down cards in both player's Graveyards face-up.



[center][b][u]Mr. Striker[/b][/u]

[img]http://img121.imageshack.us/img121/1599/128884a.jpg[/img][/center]

[b]Effect:[/b] 1 Tuner + 1 or more non-Tuner monsters
This card cannot be Special Summoned except by Synchro Summon from the Graveyard. When this card is sent from the Extra Deck to the Graveyard, decrease the Level of 1 non-Tuner monster on your side of the field by 1. When this card is Synchro Summoned, select 1 random card from your opponent's Extra Deck. This card gains ATK equal to the Level of the selected card x100. If this card is targeted by a card effect, you can pay 500 Life Points to negate its activation and destroy it. When this card leaves the field, send it to the Extra Deck instead.



[center][b][u]Daemon[/b][/u]

[img]http://i1095.photobucket.com/albums/i465/DeathlyFiend/DeathSynchro-1.png[/img][/center]

[b]Effect:[/b] 1 Tuner + 1 or more non-Tuner monsters
Must be Special Summoned by Synchro Summon from the Graveyard. If you have 2 or more Synchro Monsters in your Graveyard: You can Banish 2 cards on the field. During your Draw Phase, instead of drawing, discard 1 card; select 1 card in your opponent's hand; Send it to the Graveyard. If this card is Banished; increase your Life Points by 4000 and you opponent draws 4 cards.

[Nathanael D. Striker]

Max, I'd say first to 3. 7 is pushing it with a battle royal.

[Max Darkness]

[quote name='Mr. Striker' timestamp='1308066606' post='5282654']
Max, I'd say first to 3. 7 is pushing it with a battle royal.
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Compromise with 5?

[Blake]

They all require Gale Dogra. That's bad.

Max's effect is kinda worthless. It makes a new, small deck basically. It's really a big lump of nothing, that just fiddle farts around. Also, NO ONE would use it's effect on the small pile, because the opponent would obviously pick the least helpful cards in your deck.

Striker's makes you pay LP to dump, defend, and redump it. The level reduction seems pointless. Getting to look at your Opp's Extra Deck kinda bugs me, though...

Aaaah, Daemon Is using the new OCG. I like that. However, it is a constant banish 2, as there is no limit clause. That, added to other things, is too much. The last effect of letting them draw 4, even for 4000 LP, is bad. It's like letting them use Upstart 4 times. remember, UP part does not balance put OP part.

In the end, I gotta give it to Striker. It gets a free peek, but it is less broken than Daemon's, and is actually somewhat useful, unlike Max's

[Lexadin]

Mhh, Daemon's card is out of the question, because, even though it has a great img, the OCG is horribly and the effect is OP.
Then the choice is between Max's card and Striker's card. Max has the more original effect and better pic, but Striker's card is more usefull. Hmm, I have to choose for Max's card, as I think it's OCG is also 'slightly' better.

So my vote goes to Max Darkness' card.

[Blake]

[quote name='Lexadin' timestamp='1308070073' post='5282753']
Mhh, Daemon's card is out of the question, because, even though it has a great img, the OCG is horribly and the effect is OP.
Then the choice is between Max's card and Striker's card. Max has the more original effect and better pic, but Striker's card is more usefull. Hmm, I have to choose for Max's card, as I think it's OCG is also 'slightly' better.

So my vote goes to Max Darkness' card.
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Daemon's OCG is the NEW OCG =/ it is correct.

Also, don't rate on pics. That is beyond stupid as it has absolutely nothing to do with the card itself. God, people should do written contests.

[Max Darkness]

[quote name='Ravenous Black' timestamp='1308069468' post='5282735']
They all require Gale Dogra. That's bad.
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Actually, they don't. Not while they remain on YCM. There's a whole host of Extra Deck-millers to support this mechanic of mine.


[quote name='Ravenous Black' timestamp='1308069468' post='5282735']
Max's effect is kinda worthless. It makes a new, small deck basically. It's really a big lump of nothing, that just fiddle farts around. Also, NO ONE would use it's effect on the small pile, because the opponent would obviously pick the least helpful cards in your deck.
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Or double-bluff them and send "Plaguespreader"...


Anyway, thanks for voting. 0-1-0


[quote name='Lexadin' timestamp='1308070073' post='5282753']
Mhh, Daemon's card is out of the question, because, even though it has a great img, the OCG is horribly and the effect is OP.
Then the choice is between Max's card and Striker's card. Max has the more original effect and better pic, but Striker's card is more usefull. Hmm, I have to choose for Max's card, as I think it's OCG is also 'slightly' better.

So my vote goes to Max Darkness' card.
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Thanks for voting. 1-1-0

[Anti-Apocryphal]

My vote is going to [b]Max Darkness.[/b] Daemon's effect is just OP'ed. 4000 LP like that isn't great- and the OCG is off. This was between Mr. Striker & Max Darkness. I liked Max's effect better because it's more unique- I don't think I've seen one like it before. =D
Mr. Striker's effect seems like something basic- except for the non-Tuner thing. I've seen cards before that allow you to negate effects by losing Life Points.


[b]Max Darkness[/b] gets my vote.

[Max Darkness]

[quote name='Future Paradise' timestamp='1308073886' post='5282864']
My vote is going to [b]Max Darkness.[/b] Daemon's effect is just OP'ed. 4000 LP like that isn't great- and the OCG is off. This was between Mr. Striker & Max Darkness. I liked Max's effect better because it's more unique- I don't think I've seen one like it before. =D
Mr. Striker's effect seems like something basic- except for the non-Tuner thing. I've seen cards before that allow you to negate effects by losing Life Points.


[b]Max Darkness[/b] gets my vote.
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Thanks for voting. 2-1-0

[CMRenji]

Um, since there are 3 people, it would be a 1-on-1-on-1 right? I think it should be in contests, since only 1-on-1s are allowed here. But, if this is allowed, I will rate the cards. Before I begin, I must say that all the cards look amazing and it seems like all of you put your all into them.

[b]Max Darkness:[/b] To begin, I love the name, it fits the image quite well. And it is very original as well. But, I believe it's effect is UP'd and not that useful. It takes a few cards of the top of your Deck and places them on top of your Graveyard, where you may Draw them like normal. They might as well be on the top of your Deck.

The reason I think it's UP'd, is because of this part: "When this card is Synchro Summoned, you can banish any number of DARK monsters in your Graveyard to have both players select an equal number of cards from their opponent's Deck, and send them to the Graveyard face-down.". Both players send the same amount of cards to their "mini Deck" but you lose 5 monsters in the process.

To sum it up, your card in my opinion is the most original of them all. But, the effect isn't too useful, and it has a 5 monster cost.
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[b]Striker:[/b] Very nice card, it has some nice effects, and it seems very playable. Though, I think it's a bit OP'd. It has 2600 ATK and since it gains ATK equal to the Level of one monster in your opponent's Extra Deck x100(average Extra Deck monster I assume is Lv 6- Lv. 9) that gives it a boost to probably over 3000. Plus it's last effect which can negate card effects adds to it's power.

But, since it seems pretty hard to Summon and I'm assuming this part: "decrease the Level of 1 non-Tuner monster on your side of the field by 1." is to make it harder, it balances it out some. But overall, I think it could use another drawback effect or possibly another Star.

Anyway, out of the 3, I think this one could be the most useful in an real Duel, but it's just somewhat OP'd.
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[b]Daemon:[/b] Your OCG seems odd. I didn't see anything like the OCG your using in the Card Grammar Update. I don't think I've ever seen this: ; in a card. Is it some really new OCG that I haven't heard about or something? Just one more thing on OCG: "you[b]r[/b] opponent draws 4 cards." If it was purposely like that before, then you must show me where you learned this new OCG. If it was a typo, I won't judge it by that.

Anyway, on to the rest of the card. I think it's kind of UP'd. This effect: "During your Draw Phase, instead of drawing, discard 1 card; select 1 card in your opponent's hand; Send it to the Graveyard." is UP'd IMO because both players lose card in the process, but your opponent can still draw cards, while you must discard cards(since it doesn't say "you can discard 1 card". And if you have no cards in your hand, what happens? The last effect seems balanced in itself, you get 4000 LP and your opponent gets 4 cards.

Overall the card is pretty UP'd in my opinion. It's probably going to be hard to summon(being a Lv 7 Death Synchro), has no ATK or DEF(and nothing to protect it from getting destroyed), one of it's effects forces you to discard cards each turn instead of drawing.


My vote goes to Mr. Striker. Max Darkness came 2nd for me and Daemon 3rd. Striker's card, unlike the other two, can be very useful in a real Duel. Despite being somewhat OP'd, the playability of his card won my vote. Max, your card was very nice but I couldn't imagine someone using it in a real Duel, because it's effect doesn't make up for the price of summoning it and banishing a few monsters. Daemon, sorry but I found your card the most UP'd because it would be hard to summon, it's discarding effect seems to hurt you more than help you and it has no ATK or DEF. Please don't think I rated your card 3rd because of OCG, I just think Max's is less UP'd and more original.

[Nathanael D. Striker]

Thank you Renji.

2-2-0

[MibeR]

Actually new OCG use : , ;. Look at the Meklord monster.

As for the vote. My votes goes to Stiker . Why? it is usable but still balanced,

Daemon very broken with it increase LP IMO

Max very very balanced however seems rather unused in real battle.

IMO Usable > Balanced

[Nathanael D. Striker]

2-3-0 Striker

Am I leading Max? This is a first.

[Simping For Hina]

[quote name='Ravenous Black' timestamp='1308070527' post='5282775']
Daemon's OCG is the NEW OCG =/ it is correct.

Also, don't rate on pics. That is beyond stupid as it has absolutely nothing to do with the card itself. God, people should do written contests.
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But why not rate on this pic? I am the one who made it :3.

[Nathanael D. Striker]

Deathly, your card has no ATK and DEF.

[Blake]

Then have them rate the pic in showcase. Not here with your modified Mugetsu.

[Simping For Hina]

Striker, Max put up the wrong one.
I gave him an image with the ATK and DEF.
People cannot rate in showcase, unless they have good feedback .

[Max Darkness]

@ Daemon: Fixed. But since no-one noticed that, it shouldn't affect the result.

[Angel of Silence]

Daemon's card is just too OP'd for me.

OCG wise Max's seems slightly better.
Creativity goes to Max.
Overall usefulness goes to Striker though.

I think i would use Striker's over Max's.

So my vote goes to Striker.

[Nathanael D. Striker]

2-4-0 Striker

O.O I think I might actually beat Max.

[Kazooie]

First off, all the cards are pretty much not worth using. Having to summon them from the Graveyard really limits how useful they can be.

The best thing about Max's card is the fact you get to see your opponent's deck. However, due to the speed of the game nowadays, you usually already know on the first turn. Getting rid of the opponent's cards don't really matter. Honestly, the best use I can think of is hoping the opponent mills what you want, then remove this card from the field for a quick Foolish.

I like how Daemon's card uses the new card grammar.

During your Draw Phase, instead of drawing, discard 1 card; select 1 card in your opponent's hand; Send it to the Graveyard.

This part of the effect kills the card for me. Making it required really reduces how useful it can be.

Out of these three cards, Striker's is the most playable. Sending it to the Grave can set you up for a Synchro Summon or a Xyz Summon. It runs over Stardust and Shi En, and can protect itself from cards like Smashing Ground.

The fact that all three cards pretty much require Gale Dogra to be reliably summoned in the actual game severely limits how useful they can be, but with these three cards, Striker's is the most useful. Striker gets my vote.

[Nathanael D. Striker]

2-5-0 Striker

You pulled a good match guys. I just cannot believe that I beat Max.

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