Guest Caeda Posted September 4, 2010 Report Share Posted September 4, 2010 Card RequirementsMust be a Union Monster.Must be Level Three or below.Must support a WATER Monster in the game. Due to new rules, only one rep may be given to the winner.First to seven votes wins. ALL VOTES MUST HAVE A GOOD REASON. [spoiler=Max Darkness' Card]Card Lore:2 Level 3 or lower WATER monstersThis card can only be Special Summoned from your Extra Deck by sending the above cards in your hand or on your side of the field to the Graveyard while "Umi" is face-up on the field. You can Tribute this face-up card to add 1 "Daedalus" monster from your Deck or Graveyard to your hand. Once per turn, during your Main Phase, you can equip this card to a "Daedalus" monster you control as an Equip Card, OR unequip it to Special Summon this card in face-up Attack Position. This card is unaffected by the effects of the equipped monster. Each time the equipped monster inflicts Battle Damage to your opponent, return 1 WATER monster with 1500 or less ATK or 1 Field Spell Card from your Graveyard to your Deck. (A monster can only be equipped with 1 Union Monster at a time. If the equipped monster would be destroyed, destroy this card instead.) [spoiler=Caeda's Card]Card Lore:Once per turn, you can equip this card to a "White Night Dragon" you control, OR unequip it to Special Summon this card in face-up Defense Position. When equipped to a monster by this card's effect, the equipped monster cannot be destroyed by Spell or Trap cards. If "White Knight Dragon" attacks the opponent directly, destroy this card. If this card is sent to the Graveyard by the effect of "White Night Dragon" add this card to your Deck, then shuffle. (A monster can only be equipped with 1 Union Monster at a time. If the equipped monster would be destroyed, destroy this card instead.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Striker Posted September 4, 2010 Report Share Posted September 4, 2010 The first thing I saw was the lack of an attack increase. All Union cards offer that. With that in mind, Max's is harder to summon and has a good effect, but with the lack of Umi based decks Caeda gmv. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Caeda Posted September 4, 2010 Report Share Posted September 4, 2010 The first thing I saw was the lack of an attack increase. All Union cards offer that. With that in mind, Max's is harder to summon and has a good effect, but with the lack of Umi based decks Caeda gmv. Thanks Striker. 0-1 Caeda. But no, not all of them. See? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Striker Posted September 4, 2010 Report Share Posted September 4, 2010 Useless card is useless. Anyway, my work here is done. Oh, you need to set a "first to # wins". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Caeda Posted September 4, 2010 Report Share Posted September 4, 2010 Useless card is useless. Anyway, my work here is done. Oh, you need to set a "first to # wins". Have you ever used Machina Gadgets? It has to run him in about two or threes to search for Fortress. Oh yeah, I forgot. D: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Darkness Posted September 4, 2010 Report Share Posted September 4, 2010 The first thing I saw was the lack of an attack increase. All Union cards offer that. With that in mind, Max's is harder to summon and has a good effect, but with the lack of Umi based decks Caeda gmv. "Machina Gearframe", "Machina Peacekeeper", "Freezing Beast", "Armor Breaker" and "Des Dendle" are five that offer no ATK/DEF increase. "Armored Cybern" actually does the opposite, lowering the equipped monster's ATK as a cost. A large number of early Unions offered ATK/DEF increases, but more recent ones focus on beneficial effects. EDIT: "Machina Gearframe" is anything but useless in a Machina-Gadget Deck. It's a very potent searcher, and has enough ATK to exist on its own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Striker Posted September 4, 2010 Report Share Posted September 4, 2010 I own the Doistu and Soistu package so I'm old school with Unions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master White Posted September 5, 2010 Report Share Posted September 5, 2010 They are both Great cards, 1 supports Water monsters, brings out a good destruction strategy. The other card supports "White Knight Dragon" and they are both good combinations. Caeda's effect ties well with White Knight Dragon", but again it lacks some strength. But all-in all, I'm sorry Max, but I'm going for Caeda's b/c it benefits White Dragon Knight. So my vote goes for Caeda. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexadin Posted September 5, 2010 Report Share Posted September 5, 2010 I like both cards. However I vote for Max's card, becouse of 2 things. I like the idea of a Fusion/Union monster and Caeda's card has Silent Magician LV8 as a pic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom M.C. Posted September 5, 2010 Report Share Posted September 5, 2010 vote for max, cause its a fusion/union, and goes great with Daedalus' destruction effect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Darkness Posted September 5, 2010 Report Share Posted September 5, 2010 Thank you both. 2-2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Caeda Posted September 5, 2010 Report Share Posted September 5, 2010 I like both cards. However I vote for Max's card, becouse of 2 things. I like the idea of a Fusion/Union monster and Caeda's card has Silent Magician LV8 as a pic. I can accept the first point, but I honestly can't see why you care about the picture. It fits the card, and the support, so I used it. Blame Mr. Kay. vote for max, cause its a fusion/union, and goes great with Daedalus' destruction effect Very well. 2-2. More votes would be nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Darkness Posted September 5, 2010 Report Share Posted September 5, 2010 I can accept the first point, but I honestly can't see why you care about the picture. It fits the card, and the support, so I used it. Blame Mr. Kay. People on this forum don't like existing monsters being re-named, unless used in a specific support card. It shows lack of imagination in a way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dranzer Posted September 5, 2010 Report Share Posted September 5, 2010 I vote Max darkness because I find the effect more usefull and creative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Darkness Posted September 5, 2010 Report Share Posted September 5, 2010 Thanks Dranzer. 3-2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Darkness Posted September 6, 2010 Report Share Posted September 6, 2010 Bump for votes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Flyer - Sakura Posted September 6, 2010 Report Share Posted September 6, 2010 Max Darkness GMV.The effect is more creative and would be more useful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Darkness Posted September 6, 2010 Report Share Posted September 6, 2010 Thanks Sakura. 4-2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice. Posted September 6, 2010 Report Share Posted September 6, 2010 Max's card seems OP'ed, in my opinion. Caeda gmv. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andx Posted September 6, 2010 Report Share Posted September 6, 2010 Max's cards has way too many effects all on top of each other in my opinion; makes it overpowered. But if some of the effects were removed it wouldn't exactly be useful anymore. Caeda's seems much more balanced to me and for that reason Caeda's card gets my vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Caeda Posted September 6, 2010 Report Share Posted September 6, 2010 4-4 Tie. Thanks Ice and Andx. <3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Darkness Posted September 7, 2010 Report Share Posted September 7, 2010 Bump for votes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exiro Posted September 7, 2010 Report Share Posted September 7, 2010 White Dragon Djinn is almost completely useless. The only nice thing about it is the art.4,784/10 I like Envoy of the Ocean King. I can actually see it being played, especially because of Salvage. It wouldn't hurt to make it a tad better, for example by having the last card add a card to the hand instead of deck. Art is horrid, lol.7,931/10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Darkness Posted September 9, 2010 Report Share Posted September 9, 2010 Thanks Exiro. 5-4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Darkness Posted September 9, 2010 Report Share Posted September 9, 2010 Bump for votes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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