Official Pokemon Discussion. (The 5th gen starts now)

[Twig]

I forget' date=' are team fixes in this topic, or is there another topic to post them in?

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I think you can post them here.

 

 

 

I'd love a Torkoal evo.

[Xing]

I haz question. Does 5th Gen mean they're making another Generation of pokemon. If so, it better not SUCK like the 4th.

[DeathSDelano]

I haz question. Does 5th Gen mean they're making another Generation of pokemon. If so' date=' it better not SUCK like the 4th.

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4th Gen was not that bad(Game wise) anime is meh its basically repeating the old eps but changing it up.

 

the 4th Gen has some cool pokemon and some of favs such as Torterra, Garchomp, and Drapion

[Flame Dragon]

I forget' date=' are team fixes in this topic, or is there another topic to post them in?

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Yea, this is the topic for team fixes.

 

I haz question. Does 5th Gen mean they're making another Generation of pokemon. If so' date=' it better not SUCK like the 4th.

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Yea. The 4th gen did not suck in the least. It is one of the best gens, IMO it is the best gen. It gave so many old bad pokemon good new evos, a lot of good new pokemon, gave a lot of the weaker types better moves, and the split of the ATK and Sp ATK use.

 

And odn't say anything about the sprites please. A side from a handful of odd balls this gen looked great.

[Xing]

IMO the 4th was a piece of sheet that crawled up Nintendo's ass and died. In all of about 2 seconds. The pokemon looked ugly, and were terrible knock-offs of the originals.

Bulbasaur & Evos = Plant

Turtwig & Evos = Tree

 

That's the only difference between the 2. And more.

 

And IMO all of the 4th are ugly looking. I just scrolled through a list of them all, not 1 was appealing.

[Twig]

IMO the 4th was a piece of s*** that crawled up Nintendo's ass and died. In all of about 2 seconds. The pokemon looked ugly' date=' and were terrible knock-offs of the originals.

Bulbasaur & Evos = Plant

Turtwig & Evos = Tree

 

That's the only difference between the 2. And more.

 

And IMO all of the 4th are ugly looking. I just scrolled through a list of them all, not 1 was appealing.

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I actually liked the 4th gen. The sprites aren't that bad.

[BulletMan]

The fourth generation is the best. nuff said. 8)

[Flame Dragon]

IMO the 4th was a piece of s*** that crawled up Nintendo's ass and died. In all of about 2 seconds. The pokemon looked ugly' date=' and were terrible knock-offs of the originals.

Bulbasaur & Evos = Plant

Turtwig & Evos = Tree

 

That's the only difference between the 2. And more.

 

And IMO all of the 4th are ugly looking. I just scrolled through a list of them all, not 1 was appealing.

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Did I NOT say to say something about the sprites. THEY AREN'T BAD. And how many REALLY are "knock-offs." Their are huge difference's between Bulbasaur & Evos and Turtwig & Evos. For starters Bulb and family is part poison, Wig's finale form, and I think second, are ground. Side from that they have totally different stats and move sets. They don't even look that much a like. Bulb doesn't look anything like a turtle, Wig does. When you look at the final forms Tor still looks like a turtle. Plus he isn't just a tree, he looks like a walking continent.

 

 

And even if your point is valid, how does that make the whole 4th gen bad?

 

Also here is a pokemon that can't be viewed as bad looking in the least. Lucario.

[Phantom Roxas]

Magmortar, Probopass, and Lickylicky are probably the worst looking of the generation, but Lucario, Gallade, and Infernape are among the best.

[Brushfire]

Yeah, Roxas is right.

 

But I have to say this, because imo it's quite true:

 

If you play the games for the games, then Generation 4 was horrible. The vast majority of the Pokémon looked stupid, the region was bland, and they're now going to SPACE POKÉMON.

 

If you play the games competitively, then Generation 4 is by far the best.

[PANDORUM™]

IMO the 4th was a piece of s*** that crawled up Nintendo's ass and died. In all of about 2 seconds. The pokemon looked ugly' date=' and were terrible knock-offs of the originals.

Bulbasaur & Evos = Plant

Turtwig & Evos = Tree

 

That's the only difference between the 2. And more.

 

And IMO all of the 4th are ugly looking. I just scrolled through a list of them all, not 1 was appealing.

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Did I NOT say to say something about the sprites. THEY AREN'T BAD. And how many REALLY are "knock-offs." Their are huge difference's between Bulbasaur & Evos and Turtwig & Evos. For starters Bulb and family is part poison, Wig's finale form, and I think second, are ground. Side from that they have totally different stats and move sets. They don't even look that much a like. Bulb doesn't look anything like a turtle, Wig does. When you look at the final forms Tor still looks like a turtle. Plus he isn't just a tree, he looks like a walking continent.

 

 

And even if your point is valid, how does that make the whole 4th gen bad?

 

Also here is a pokemon that can't be viewed as bad looking in the least. Lucario.

 

Agreed.

 

Blubasaur = Frog with a blub glued to it's back

Trutwig = Turtle with a twig RAMED into it's head

 

Ivysaur = Bigger frog, but the blub has bloomed

Grotle = Bigger turtle with 2 bushes planted on it's shell

 

Venusaur = Huge frog with a deformed palm tree growing out of it's back.

Torterra = Giant turtle with mountains and a tree on it's shell.

[Ω Link Ω]

4'th gen was the best but like people have already said there were some awful sprites

[PANDORUM™]

4'th gen was the best but like people have already said there were some awful sprites

 

I'm not really bothered about spirits, well i am a little if they did anything bad to steelix's spirit i would ram a Sandslash up there back sides.

 

I like the 3rd gen best, 'm not sure why, probably because it was a good gen for steel types.

[Ω Link Ω]

Meh maybe and I liked the 4'th because it had leafeon in it :)

[Godot]

IMO the 4th was a piece of s*** that crawled up Nintendo's ass and died. In all of about 2 seconds. The pokemon looked ugly' date=' and were terrible knock-offs of the originals.

Bulbasaur & Evos = Plant

Turtwig & Evos = Tree

 

That's the only difference between the 2. And more.

 

And IMO all of the 4th are ugly looking. I just scrolled through a list of them all, not 1 was appealing.

[/quote']

Did I NOT say to say something about the sprites. THEY AREN'T BAD. And how many REALLY are "knock-offs." Their are huge difference's between Bulbasaur & Evos and Turtwig & Evos. For starters Bulb and family is part poison, Wig's finale form, and I think second, are ground. Side from that they have totally different stats and move sets. They don't even look that much a like. Bulb doesn't look anything like a turtle, Wig does. When you look at the final forms Tor still looks like a turtle. Plus he isn't just a tree, he looks like a walking continent.

 

 

And even if your point is valid, how does that make the whole 4th gen bad?

 

Also here is a pokemon that can't be viewed as bad looking in the least. Lucario.

 

I agree Flame. If he wants to talk about pokemon not looking creative, he should go play Gen I. Honestly, would you rather want a Shinx? Or a recolored Lizard? Gen IV was the 2nd best IMO, right behind Gen III.

[Brushfire]

I agree Flame. If he wants to talk about pokemon not looking creative' date=' he should go play Gen I. Honestly, would you rather want a Shinx? Or a recolored Lizard? Gen IV was the 2nd best IMO, right behind Gen III.

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There's a difference between creative and ridiculous. Go figure.

[Flame Dragon]

Magmortar' date=' Probopass, and Lickylicky are probably the worst looking of the generation, but Lucario, Gallade, and Infernape are among the best.

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I personally like Mortar's sprite. Probopass is stupid but it's funny enough to make up for it. Licky^2 is an over grown lickytoung (or how ever you spell it) so I'll agree that he is bad.

 

If you play the games for the games' date=' then Generation 4 was horrible. The vast majority of the Pokémon looked stupid, the region was bland, and they're now going to SPACE POKÉMON.

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While this is all personal opinion I don't see all the stupid looking pokemon. While I can think of a handful, most look cool, or at least decent. I also don't get how the region was bland, so I want to know why you think this. Also the space pokemon thing started in the 3rd gen with our DNA friend. Also here we only had like 3 at max so it isn't much to complain about.

 

And as for the games themselves I find all the competitive additions (better moves, attack split, over all more good pokemon) to make even normal game play more fun.

 

But again this is all personal opinion.

 

I like the 3rd gen best' date=' 'm not sure why, probably because it was a good gen for steel types.

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from a competitive standpoint 4th gen gave us more good steel types then the 3rd.

[PANDORUM™]

I like the 3rd gen best' date=' 'm not sure why, probably because it was a good gen for steel types.

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from a competitive standpoint 4th gen gave us more good steel types then the 3rd.

 

 

Yes true but i ment it in quality not quantity.

 

But the 4th gen has good quality, great i've gone and confused myself.

[Brushfire]

I personally like Mortar's sprite. Probopass is stupid but it's funny enough to make up for it. Licky^2 is an over grown lickytoung (or how ever you spell it) so I'll agree that he is bad.

 

Mortar's sprite wasn't bad' date=' but I saw the rest of the evo's as really stupid. Especially Rhydon's, as I didn't see him getting one in the first place with his looks (but he probably sucked competitively, but I wouldn't know). =/

 

Probobass was just stupid. :|

 

If you play the games for the games' date=' then Generation 4 was horrible. The vast majority of the Pokémon looked stupid, the region was bland, and they're now going to SPACE POKÉMON.

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While this is all personal opinion I don't see all the stupid looking pokemon. While I can think of a handful, most look cool, or at least decent. I also don't get how the region was bland, so I want to know why you think this. Also the space pokemon thing started in the 3rd gen with our DNA friend. Also here we only had like 3 at max so it isn't much to complain about.

 

Of course, everything that is said is personal opinion to do with stuff like this. I found the majority of the Pokémon to look stupid (I have exceptions, Luxray, Lucario, etc.), but I agree that decent is kinda where you draw the line. I swear I've explained it in this thread before, but I found Sinnoh to just be... bleh, generic? Saying that Kanto is by far the most generic so I can't really say that. I found Sinnoh's towns to be so ubran (rather than the rural areas of Johto, or the hot diverse areas of Hoenn) and boring, not to mention the snow as a bit... random. Nice, but random. I can't really explained it as it's just a personal preference, but there was nothing "Wow!" about Sinnoh, aside maybe the lakes imo.

 

And yeah, but they could've kept it to a bare minimum. A space mutation is one thing; Space and Time (and even worse: God) Pokémon took it too far. Which reminds me, there were SO many legendaries that it was really stupid. Come on, 5 per game is enough. :?

[Chaos Pudding]

Aerodactyl (M) @ Focus Sash

Ability: Pressure

EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spd

Jolly nature (+Spd, -SAtk)

- Stealth Rock

- Taunt

- Earthquake

- Rock Slide

 

Suicide Lead Aero is sex on wings. Pretty much the fastest Taunt you're going to see, it gets a guaranteed Stealth Rocks up 9 times out of 10. If they switch in their Rapid Spinner early, I just bring out...

 

Gengar (M) @ Life Orb

Ability: Levitate

EVs: 4 Def/252 Spd/252 SAtk

Timid nature (+Spd, -Atk)

- Protect

- Shadow Ball

- Focus Blast

- Hidden Power [Fire]

 

...This beast right here. Not only does it block Spinners, it also can take out the two most common spinners in one hit. Not to mention it's a solid counter to Scizor, when it isn't using Bullet Punch against me. If it is...

 

Magnezone @ Leftovers

Ability: Magnet Pull

EVs: 172 HP/84 Spd/252 SAtk

Modest nature (+SAtk, -Atk)

- Substitute

- Magnet Rise

- Thunderbolt

- Hidden Power [ice]

 

...Then I bring out this guy right here. He also fares pretty good against Fortress if he can get up his Magnet Rise before the EQ comes.

 

Tyranitar (M) @ Choice Band

Ability: Sand Stream

EVs: 160 HP/252 Atk/96 Spd

Adamant nature (+Atk, -SAtk)

- Stone Edge

- Crunch

- Pursuit

- Aqua Tail

 

Generic CB set. Aqua Tail for Heatran.

 

Blissey (F) @ Leftovers

Ability: Natural Cure

EVs: 24 HP/252 Def/232 SDef

Calm nature (+SDef, -Atk)

- Aromatherapy

- Softboiled

- Seismic Toss

- Thunder Wave

 

I chose the Cleric over the Wishpasser because I really hate Toxic and Thunder Wave.

 

Latias (F) @ Leftovers

Ability: Levitate

EVs: 4 HP/252 Spd/252 SAtk

Timid nature (+Spd, -Atk)

- Calm Mind

- Dragon Pulse

- Surf

- Recover

 

Generic CM sweeper.

 

One of the notable problems my team has is Breloom, especially after Aerodactyl is dead and gone. Other than that, I find it's a really solid team.

[Flame Dragon]

@Chaos: You team looks to be over all really basic so I can' think or many fixs. Also Beloom shouldn't be much of a problem after it sleeps one of your pokemon since Latias should be able to handle what ever it throws at you while set up on it.

[Godot]

I agree Flame. If he wants to talk about pokemon not looking creative' date=' he should go play Gen I. Honestly, would you rather want a Shinx? Or a recolored Lizard? Gen IV was the 2nd best IMO, right behind Gen III.

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There's a difference between creative and ridiculous. Go figure.

 

I can see your a Johto fan....

 

Is it me, or are almost all Gen II fans haters of Sinnoh? xD I mean, some designs in Sinnoh suck, like Kircketot or whatever, and some just scare me, like Probopass, but others like Luxray make up for it. Every Gen has their goods and bads.

[PANDORUM™]

I agree Flame. If he wants to talk about pokemon not looking creative' date=' he should go play Gen I. Honestly, would you rather want a Shinx? Or a recolored Lizard? Gen IV was the 2nd best IMO, right behind Gen III.

[/quote']

 

There's a difference between creative and ridiculous. Go figure.

 

I can see your a Johto fan....

 

Is it me, or are almost all Gen II fans haters of Sinnoh? xD I mean, some designs in Sinnoh suck, like Kircketot or whatever, and some just scare me, like Probopass, but others like Luxray make up for it. Every Gen has their goods and bads.

 

2nd gen wasn't bad but it wasn't good it had it's ups and downs.

 

E.G

 

Tyranitar, Blissey, Steelix were ups, Quagsire, Sunflora, Azumarril were downs.

[Godot]

I agree Flame. If he wants to talk about pokemon not looking creative' date=' he should go play Gen I. Honestly, would you rather want a Shinx? Or a recolored Lizard? Gen IV was the 2nd best IMO, right behind Gen III.

[/quote']

 

There's a difference between creative and ridiculous. Go figure.

 

I can see your a Johto fan....

 

Is it me, or are almost all Gen II fans haters of Sinnoh? xD I mean, some designs in Sinnoh suck, like Kircketot or whatever, and some just scare me, like Probopass, but others like Luxray make up for it. Every Gen has their goods and bads.

 

2nd gen wasn't bad but it wasn't good it had it's ups and downs.

 

E.G

 

Tyranitar, Blissey, Steelix were ups, Quagsire, Sunflora, Azumarril were downs.

 

Quagzire and Azumarril were the shiz son. They're epic, and Quagsire was the first "Electric Immune" Water Pokemon.

[Brushfire]

I agree Flame. If he wants to talk about pokemon not looking creative' date=' he should go play Gen I. Honestly, would you rather want a Shinx? Or a recolored Lizard? Gen IV was the 2nd best IMO, right behind Gen III.

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There's a difference between creative and ridiculous. Go figure.

 

I can see your a Johto fan....

 

Is it me, or are almost all Gen II fans haters of Sinnoh? xD I mean, some designs in Sinnoh suck, like Kircketot or whatever, and some just scare me, like Probopass, but others like Luxray make up for it. Every Gen has their goods and bads.

 

Wow, you caught onto that quick. o.o

 

And I don't hate Sinnoh, I just dislike it compared to the rest. Hell, it's way better than Ranger or Mystery Dungeon or any other crappy spin-off too. xD

Also, I agree with you: Luxrary and a few others are the sheet.

 

E.G

 

Tyranitar' date=' Blissey, Steelix were ups, Quagsire, Sunflora, Azumarril were downs.

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Tryranitar and Steelix are awesome. :|