Astro Dude Posted July 2, 2009 Report Share Posted July 2, 2009 Roar? I go for offense. If it were me, I'd teach Jolteon Duble Kick, Pin Missile, Tbolt and Shadow Ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Posted July 2, 2009 Report Share Posted July 2, 2009 Owen, don't help people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madsen Posted July 2, 2009 Report Share Posted July 2, 2009 Hiyas guys, total poke noob popping in to say something. If you are familiar or have VBA Link (Visual Boy Advance Link), then you should know that it can be used online for pokemon battling via hamachi, but with GBA games.[spoiler=Some guy explains how to use hamachi for this stuff]http://www.pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?t=166422 kthxbai Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Posted July 2, 2009 Report Share Posted July 2, 2009 I'm pretty sure that thing could only be used as a wireless adaptor between two games in close vacinity not over the internet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madsen Posted July 2, 2009 Report Share Posted July 2, 2009 Normally without hamachi it works only on one PC.But with hamachi it works like some kind of wifi.Just find them tuts scattered over the net. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Posted July 2, 2009 Report Share Posted July 2, 2009 Ok, I have no idea what it is:/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coyote Starrk¤ Posted July 2, 2009 Report Share Posted July 2, 2009 Umm , where can i get Eevee in Platinum ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yogg-Saron Posted July 2, 2009 Report Share Posted July 2, 2009 In Hearthrome city. Go to the house next to the Pokemon Center and talk to the person inside. It's Bebe and she will give you an eevee if you have an open slot in your party. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coyote Starrk¤ Posted July 2, 2009 Report Share Posted July 2, 2009 Okk.. I have a long way to there. I'm at Jubilife City atm ^^ just started. Turtwig and Starly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Posted July 2, 2009 Report Share Posted July 2, 2009 Ok, I want Platinum so that I can play the Battle Frontier and do other cool sh!t but I also want Prototype and WC09, I can only see one of them being in my possesion in the near future. Should I buy Plat or go for a different one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weather Report - Stand Posted July 2, 2009 Report Share Posted July 2, 2009 This is actually my VERY FIRST time making a competitive LV 100 team before, even though I started with Blue and bought each new version as they came out. So could somebody tell me what I should be doing with these guys' movesets? I haven't chosen items for them yet, either. This team was chosen due to my love for each individual species, not for practicality. So they will need some tuning-up. Moves with * by them are ones I feel like I must keep. Love Deluxe -- BlisseyHP: 641ATK: 61DEF: 111SPATK: 195SPDEF: 296SPD: 158Focus BlastSoftboiledPsychicToxic* Surface -- Rhyperior (Solid Rock)HP: 378ATK: 405DEF: 307SPATK: 145SPDEF: 138SPD: 117EarthquakeProtectStone EdgeRock Wrecker* The Hand -- RegigigasHP: 358ATK: 434DEF: 262SPATK: 201SPDEF: 213SPD: 275Crush GripKnock-OffConfuse RayGiga Impact* Highway Star -- Shaymin SkyHP: 346ATK: 222DEF: 170SPATK: 299SPDEF: 191SPD: 333Seed FlareAir SlashLeech SeedSubstitute Aqua Necklace -- EmpoleonHP: 310ATK: 189DEF: 225SPATK: 290SPDEF: 235SPD: 170Surf*Ice BeamGrass KnotAgility Enigma -- MetagrossHP: 302ATK: 313DEF: 290SPATK: 214SPDEF: 259 SPD: 194Meteor Mash*EarthquakeAgilityExplosion My main goal here is to have the MOST FUN with my team, not necessarily to be the strongest. That's why I have Regigigas, of course, so don't patronize me for that. Anything that can help me out with this could be appreciated, and my pokemon are named after Stands(special powers) of people from Jo Jo's Bizarre Adventure Part Four, which are in turn named after rock bands. I wanted to originally name one pokemon "Bad Company". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coyote Starrk¤ Posted July 2, 2009 Report Share Posted July 2, 2009 Nice team .. And Btw. I play Platinum in PC. ^^, just got it workin' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astro Dude Posted July 2, 2009 Report Share Posted July 2, 2009 I'll get Platinum, I'l also get Heart Gold and Soul Silver when they come out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Posted July 2, 2009 Report Share Posted July 2, 2009 Can you please give me the EVs and Natures you gave them please? This is actually my VERY FIRST time making a competitive LV 100 team before' date=' even though I started with Blue and bought each new version as they came out. So could somebody tell me what I should be doing with these guys' movesets? I haven't chosen items for them yet, either. This team was chosen due to my love for each individual species, not for practicality. So they will need some tuning-up. Moves with * by them are ones I feel like I must keep. Love Deluxe -- BlisseyHP: 641 ATK: 61DEF: 111 SPATK: 195SPDEF: 296SPD: 158[b']Leftovers[/b]Seismic TossSoftboiledAromatheraphyToxic* Surface -- Rhyperior (Solid Rock)HP: 378ATK: 405DEF: 307SPATK: 145SPDEF: 138SPD: 117LeftoversSubstituteStone EdgeEarthquakeMegahorn/Avalanch The Hand -- RegigigasHP: 358ATK: 434DEF: 262SPATK: 201SPDEF: 213SPD: 275Crush GripKnock-OffConfuse RayGiga Impact* Highway Star -- Shaymin SkyHP: 346ATK: 222DEF: 170SPATK: 299SPDEF: 191SPD: 333Seed FlareAir SlashLeech SeedSubstitute Aqua Necklace -- EmpoleonHP: 310ATK: 189DEF: 225SPATK: 290SPDEF: 235SPD: 170Surf*Ice BeamGrass KnotAgility Enigma -- MetagrossHP: 302ATK: 313DEF: 290SPATK: 214SPDEF: 259 SPD: 194Meteor Mash*EarthquakeAgilityExplosion The Pokemon with strikes through them need training again as their stats are unretrievable (apart from Regigigas and Shaymin who are bad and Uber respectively). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coyote Starrk¤ Posted July 2, 2009 Report Share Posted July 2, 2009 Felix. What team should i use ? My starter is Turtwig. And i don't want to use starly much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weather Report - Stand Posted July 2, 2009 Report Share Posted July 2, 2009 Mr. Felix, I didn't provide anything, since like I said, they're for FUN USE ONLY. I'm not a practical person, and so I just wanted these guys to be my first taste of real fighting pokemon-stuffness. So I just really wanted easy-to-use movesets and basic advice for "what I should do next time". Can we focus on that rather than professionalism? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Posted July 2, 2009 Report Share Posted July 2, 2009 When did Gigas and Shaymin become Uber. Felix has to have a lot on his mind to say that. Never use moves like Hyper Beam and Giga Impact; it will only allow your opponent a free turn to set up while you are recharging. Your lead is Blissey? NO. Make your lead something that can set up Stealth Rock, if you are going to make a stalling team, something that can start the weather, or set up some status/entry hazards. Your team is very poorly built. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coyote Starrk¤ Posted July 2, 2009 Report Share Posted July 2, 2009 Dark , who should i use on my team ? Starter : Turtwig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weather Report - Stand Posted July 2, 2009 Report Share Posted July 2, 2009 When did Gigas and Shaymin become Uber. Felix has to have a lot on his mind to say that. Never use moves like Hyper Beam and Giga Impact; it will only allow your opponent a free turn to set up while you are recharging. Your lead is Blissey? NO. Make your lead something that can set up Stealth Rock' date=' if you are going to make a stalling team, something that can start the weather, or set up some status/entry hazards. Your team is very poorly built.[/quote']Do people read anymore? *SIGH* I said I WAS JUST AIMING FOR SOMETHING FUN IN MY FIRST REAL TEAM. GET WIT' IT, YO! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Posted July 2, 2009 Report Share Posted July 2, 2009 Your team (minus Shaymin-S and Gigas) is actually "good". They share a weakness to Ground, if anything, but it's fine. But how you composed your team (leads, movesets, EVs, etc.) was bad. If you are actually serious about competitive battling, you can't use your favorites (unless your favorite is Yanmega or something viable). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weather Report - Stand Posted July 2, 2009 Report Share Posted July 2, 2009 But I've said three times that I wasn't "serious", already. IS THIS NOT ENOUGH? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Posted July 2, 2009 Report Share Posted July 2, 2009 It is possible to make a good team and it still be fun. If you make a bad team and lose all the time I can't see you enjoying your self. Shaymin SkyApart from Regigigas and Shaymin who are bad and Uber respectively.When did Gigas and Shaymin become Uber. Felix has to have a lot on his mind to say that. @Ingo-San: Just spam it with levels and you can go the whole way with just Turtwig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacoby746 Posted July 3, 2009 Report Share Posted July 3, 2009 Mr. Felix' date=' I didn't provide anything, since like I said, they're for FUN USE ONLY. I'm not a practical person, and so I just wanted these guys to be my first taste of real fighting pokemon-stuffness. [b']So I just really wanted easy-to-use movesets[/b] and basic advice for "what I should do next time". Can we focus on that rather than professionalism? All moves are easy to use. All you need to do is press the fight button and click on the move you want to use :) Seroiusly though, They look good for in-game battles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted July 3, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 3, 2009 Since we only copy and paste from here, use this place.http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/ Uber = Can't be usedOU = BestBL = GoodUU = Decent, some can still be used in OUNU = Most suck. A couple good pokemon are here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Posted July 3, 2009 Report Share Posted July 3, 2009 Like Victreebel being in NU when it can quite easily reaks havoc in UU and Ubers. Tiers are just a formality not a direct register of power. The banned Pokes list for games are different to the Meta Uber list. I'll post it and see if Flame wants to add it to the front page' date=' it'll make for good reading. EDIT: I've also put in some stuff about Clauses. Also if someone could write something about Skymin and GiratinO that'd be great [spoiler=Uber/Ban List]~ Mewtwo~ Mew~ Wobbuffet~ Lugia~ Ho-Oh~ Wynaut~ Latios~ Kyogre~ Groudon~ Rayquaza~ Deoxys (all forms)~ Garchomp~ Palkia~ Dialga~ Giratina~ Darkrai~ Arceus [spoiler=Why?… It’s a good read, knock yourself out] Ubers by FelixTheCat Mewtwo Total base stats hitting 680, this is one mean Pokémon, with an impressive movepool to boost. Not much will outspeed it, let alone a "counter" outspeeding it, and being able to damage it without being OHKO’d. With an insane movepool, this is one deadly beast. Many refer to Mewtwo as the ultimate Sweeper. Mew Mew's base stats "only" hit 600, but what it lacks in punch, it more than makes up for in terms of a movepool. Many of the "special" 600 BST Pokémon are NOT banned, Mew is for one simple reason - movesets. Even some of the deadlier standard Pokémon can be taken down with some common sense prediction, i.e. which moves it is using from its limited movepool? But how can you predict when your opponent can learn *almost* everything? Wobbuffet Many people shake their heads in disbelief at this one. Why is a 415 BST Pokémon on the Uber list? Decent HP and Mirror Coat and Counter allows it to be extremely difficult to kill in a single blow, and with it's decent HP, could reflect the damage back at you for a certain kill. Encore can trap you a move for up to 5 turns. Your opponent would then LOL as it switches to something else and sets up on you. Safeguard means that your attempts to status it will be null and void. Shadow Tag as well means you can't switch, simple as. Now all of these individually are not that big a deal, as many Pokémon have the potential to perform these feats, but not all together at the same freakin’ time. Shadow Tag also used to create the potential of a Wob v Wob showdown, but Shadow Tag has been changed so that other Shadow Taggers can escape each other. This blue blob is still a doozy. Lugia Lugia's base stats hit 680, like Mewtwo, and in some respects, Lugia is like a reverse Mewtwo. It is more defensive, whilst our Genetic friend is definitely more aggressive, albeit with a few extra weaknesses. However with the ability to recover that damage and boost its stats further, and possessing an impressive array of moves, Lugia is simply too cool for school, as they say, with the ability to wall almost anything. Ho-oh Famous for making in appearance in the anime, right in #1, before it was even named or featured in a video game, the advent of an even more aggressive metagame, in which the fire type is hindered further remains to be seen where Ho-oh will end up. Like its metallic twin, it possesses a 680 base stat total, and is more attack orientated than its psychic type counterpart. Despite losing 50% to stealth rock, it has a nasty movepool and enough attack power to say that if it switches in, despite being severely molested, it can set up and own, as well as being able to recover from those rocks. Very deadly and despite the ease in which it can be countered, it can still wipe out an entire team. Latios Many people think that Latios is acceptable WITHOUT the broken Soul Dew. First things first, Soul Dew is not as broken as it was in advance. Latias is more defensive, and the Soul Dew will boost her Special Defense whilst Latios is more offensive, and therefore the Soul Dew will boost his Special Attack. But could be considerd Uber without it. Both have a BST of 600, but with the important stats carrying the power, the two have some serious resistances and don't have the common 4x Ice weakness that plagues their Dragon cousins. Throw in an impressive movepool, the ability to use Recover to heal themselves and boost their already 1337 special capabilities, and you have some monsters that you wouldn't want to face. Latios also has the option of attacking on the physical side, with Dragon Dance and a higher attack stat. Latias however since testing has been found acceptable in a Standard eviroment even if there is a risk of it becoming more OU than Blissey. Kyogre Kyogre is a true beast, among Ubers. A trait that would make Tyranitar cry and even admit defeat, with a stat total hitting 680, and a movepool to hurt many types, a true beast to be feared. It couldn’t care less about the advantage it gives to the Electric types switching in, because with their general poor defensive stats, they will surely get hurt by powered up Water moves. Let alone the powerful Super Effective moves it learns as well as the fact that Grass and Electric types are rare in Ubers. Generally difficult to kill, especially on the special side, this monster will truly wash you away. Groudon Kyogre's nemesis. This was meant to be a fire type, but instead, they give it a type that has better resistances, but has a movepool that allows it to pretend that it is. It can run a few roles in the Uber metagame; sweeper, supportive, wall, you never know what to expect from it. Also gives help to other Pokemon in the metagame, as a Chlorophyll boost can just be what your Exeggutor waiting in the wings needs to outspeed and destroy your opponent’s team. Rayquaza Anyone who has been on the receiving end of a mauling by a Salamence will know the pain when you imagine a stronger version of it, with an even better movepool and 80 extra stats. Sure it might be slightly slower, but what it loses in pace it makes up for in punch and most Salamence sets Dragon Dance anyway so wouldn't utilize the natural Speed. It is only one of 2 Pokemon that can Dragon Dance and Outrage, reason enough to ban it with 150 base attack. A truly fearsome beast that couldn’t care less if you had a Pokemon with STAB Ice Beam on it if holding a Yache berry or a Focus Sash. You'd better hope it kills it in one hit. Deoxys (All Forms) All 4 versions of Deoxys can be used and obtained in DP. All 4 have a 600 base stat total. Yet only 3 are Uber. Sharing the same insane movepool, the standard version is an offensive monster with limited defensive capabilities, but will seriously maim, if not kill almost any Pokémon it faces. The attacking monster has less defensive capabilities, it will likely fall to any attack, but will outspeed you more likely than not, and almost certainly end your Pokémon's role in that battle with extreme speed and attacking stats. The defensive version will not be going anywhere, and will likely Pressure stall you to death, whilst it lols at you and dusts off the damage with impressive defenses and recover, as well as setting up entry hazards which make switching in hard. The speed version was to be considered as OU, but after the popularity of the “Dual Screen” Deoxys-s, everyone was forced to have a very fast Taunter and games often balanced on the speed tie, i.e. whose Taunt went first. This made for a unanimous decision for it being Uber. Garchomp Garchomp is the newest Pokémon to enter the Uber realm, after terrorizing the OU metagame for many moons. With an attack stat almost reaching 400, bulk that rival’s Swampert and annoyingly enough speed to outspeed the base 105’s, Garchomp is a monster. The Swords Dance set (especially with a Yache Berry) was almost impossible to stop with one Pokemon, as one would break the Yache, while the other killed it. 1/3 of your team needed to bring down the Land Shark. Choice Scarf can outrun and kill with a speed that approaches 450. It can also run mixed, with the “ChainChomp” set, and have 28% chance to miss with the SubPowder set in Sandstorm. This is one shark that Jaws would have avoided. Dialga Dialga has a superb type combination, good movepool and a 680 base stat total, which is almost certain exclusion in itself. It can do all sorts of roles as well, with Bulk Up, Restalk, Trick Room Sweeper, and ordinary sweeper as well. Palkia Palkia has only one weakness, but is common in the Uber metagame. However, a 680 base stat total and just as useful a movepool, but not the defensive capabilities to support, but can sweep easier with better speed and Attack stat for the pink whore of special walling (Blissey). Giratina Giratina has a unique typing, the same 680 BST and a healthy mix of good moves. However, like Palkia, Giratina can only do one thing, but boy is it good at it. Stalling. With 150 Hp and Will-o-wisp, it can completely shut down physical attackers, while can EV it’s 120 SDef to take Special hits better as well. Darkrai Darkrai stupidly fast and has an 80% accuracy sleep move as well as a trait that eats at opponents HP if they are asleep, it can completely shut down any Restalk strategies. This is not the only thing it can do, as it can sweep with 135 base SAtk and Calm Mind AND NASTY PLOT!! This thing is the meaning of Broken. Oh and Focus Punch for Blissey off a decent, but not great Atk stat. Arceus Arceus… With base 720 Stats, the highest EVER made, and a movepool that is almost as big as Smeargle, this God Pokemon can do nearly everything in existence, and can do it well. As well as being generalized, it can also be used to counter specific threats, as it can be any type it likes, with a special 100 power STAB move no matter what. One of the more dangerous ones is the SD Extreme Speed physical attacker, which can only be countered 100% by Giratina but only if Arceus doesn’t have Night Slash (which it will… to counter Giratina). When it was revealed, many joked that it should be in a tier of its own. Forget what I said about Darkrai, this thing is the Pokemon equivalent of Black Luster Soldier – EOTB. Clauses Clauses are the do's and don’ts of Pokemon and help to regulate a battle so it doesn’t become a free for all to see who can Sleep all your opponent’s Pokemon the fastest. [spoiler=Some standard clauses] Evasion ClauseYou and your opponent can not use evasion-increasing moves like double team and minimize. Legit/legal ClauseNone of the Pokemon can have illegal movesets, 999 in all stats, 255 EVs in all stats, or have been caught in places that they normally wouldn't have been caught at. An example of an illegal moveset would be would be a Magnezone with Flamethrower or Salamence with Ice Beam. OHKO ClauseYou and your opponent can not use moves that cause instant one-hit knockouts. Some examples would be sheer cold, fissure, Horn Drill and Guillotine. Sleep ClauseOnly one Pokemon can be put to sleep on each team. The only time you can use another sleep move is when the sleeping Pokemon either wakes up or faints, then your opponent can use a sleep move again. The move Rest does not count toward Sleep Clause, so if your opponent were to put a Pokemon asleep because of Rest, you can still use a sleep-inducing move on your opponent. Species ClauseYou and your opponent can not use more then one of the same Pokemon. This means that you or your opponent can not use two Infernapes or Garchomps or two of the same Pokemon in general. Luck Items ClauseYou and your opponent can not use Items that rely on luck to be activated. Some examples are Focus Band, Bright Powder, and Quick claw. Soul Dew ClauseCan't use Soul Dew, nuff said. I might be able to come up with one for Skymin. Skymin (Shaymin Sky Forme) Serene Grace making Seed Flare's Special Defense drop an 80% chance of occuring instead of the regular 40% before factoring accuracy. Base 120 Special Attack plus Base 127 Speed and you have a powerful Special Sweeper. Its Attack is decent too at Base 103 plus the fact Skymin has access to Swords Dance it can be a physical Sweeper too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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