Official Pokemon Discussion. (The 5th gen starts now)

[Astro Dude]

But Hydro Pump was one of it's best moves back in the day. They should've at least have him learn a better physical Water move like Aqua Tail.

 

And I'm guessing the Rain Dance team would consist of Ludicolo, Seaking, Kabutops, Relicanth, Kingdra and Kyogre.

 

A Sunny Day team would consist of Bellossom, Shiftry, Sunflora, Exeggutor, Victreebel and Groudon.

 

A Sand Storm team would probably consist of Tyranitar, Hippowdon, Golem, Flygon, Scizor and Aggron.

 

A Hail Storm team would probably consist of Abomasnow, Froslass, Glaceon, Castform, Mamoswine and Weavile.

 

What do you think of these teams?

[Madsen]

Srsly' date=' not even a GBA? Sucks for you huh:?

[/quote']

 

Yeah.

Oh well. Maybe I could ask my cousin to order me a cheap GBA.

That would be so awesome.

[Sammidysam]

(I am guessing it is not)

 

Is the pan rotom thing really a Pokemon?

[Flame Dragon]

But Hydro Pump was one of it's best moves back in the day. They should've at least have him learn a better physical Water move like Aqua Tail.

Aqua Tail is bad since their is a 10% chance of a miss. plus he was Water Fall which has 5% less base power..

And I'm guessing the Rain Dance team would consist of Ludicolo' date=' Seaking, Kabutops, Relicanth, Kingdra and Kyogre.

[b']Kyogre is an uber. You did get 3. The other 3 are mainly support[/b]

A Sunny Day team would consist of Bellossom, Shiftry, Sunflora, Exeggutor, Victreebel and Groudon.

Don't know much about Sunny Day since I've never seen one but Groudon is uber. As for the team 2 pokemon I'd guess would be seen on a basic SD one.

A Sand Storm team would probably consist of Tyranitar, Hippowdon, Golem, Flygon, Scizor and Aggron.

Their really is no such thing as a Sand Storm team, unless your me and want to be stupid. Also Golem and Aggron would never be on one.

A Hail Storm team would probably consist of Abomasnow, Froslass, Glaceon, Castform, Mamoswine and Weavile.

Again you got Half the pokemon. The other 3 would be one that cover your weaknesses. I mean really. Using 5 Ice Types with Scizor being #1 OU pokemon is stupid. Also Castform sucks and you missed the basic staple on hail teams.

What do you think of these teams?

[~/Coolio Prime\~]

STALLREIN[ice Body}

@ Leftovers

-Roar

-Blizzard

-Substitute

-Protect

 

Did I win?

[Felix]

You need to say EVs and Nature. Also, switch Roar for Toxic.

[~/Coolio Prime\~]

You need to say EVs and Nature. Also' date=' switch Roar for Toxic.

[/quote']

 

I didn't feel like checking them. >:(

 

And I usually have Toxic Spikes set up by the time I send in Walrein, so I switched it in for Blizzard for countering Hippodowns and some other usual problems.

[Felix]

If you're running Toxic Spikes then never mind. This is on a hail team though right, who've you got laying down the passive damage?

[~/Coolio Prime\~]

If you're running Toxic Spikes then never mind. This is on a hail team though right' date=' who've you got laying down the passive damage?

[/quote']

Tentacruel for the most part.

[Felix]

If it works it works.

[Yu-gi-oh Dude]

true very true

[PANDORUM™]

Theres a big team topic rising up here.

[Astro Dude]

But Hydro Pump was one of it's best moves back in the day. They should've at least have him learn a better physical Water move like Aqua Tail.

Aqua Tail is bad since their is a 10% chance of a miss. plus he was Water Fall which has 5% less base power..

And I'm guessing the Rain Dance team would consist of Ludicolo' date=' Seaking, Kabutops, Relicanth, Kingdra and Kyogre.

[b']Kyogre is an uber. You did get 3. The other 3 are mainly support[/b]

A Sunny Day team would consist of Bellossom, Shiftry, Sunflora, Exeggutor, Victreebel and Groudon.

Don't know much about Sunny Day since I've never seen one but Groudon is uber. As for the team 2 pokemon I'd guess would be seen on a basic SD one.

A Sand Storm team would probably consist of Tyranitar, Hippowdon, Golem, Flygon, Scizor and Aggron.

Their really is no such thing as a Sand Storm team, unless your me and want to be stupid. Also Golem and Aggron would never be on one.

A Hail Storm team would probably consist of Abomasnow, Froslass, Glaceon, Castform, Mamoswine and Weavile.

Again you got Half the pokemon. The other 3 would be one that cover your weaknesses. I mean really. Using 5 Ice Types with Scizor being #1 OU pokemon is stupid. Also Castform sucks and you missed the basic staple on hail teams.

What do you think of these teams?

 

All right. You're the expert, what would you suggest?

[Felix]

For ss and Hail you only need the one weather starter, so Hippowdon/TTar and Abomasnow respectively. For SD and Rain you want at least 3 Pokes who can set of rain and 3 sweepers that benifit from there weather condition but also function well on there own, you then want to cover your weaknesses. SS is primarily stall due to offensive Pokes lacking a real offensive boost, a Curse TTar would be nice though, rapes is you use it properly. For SS Stall you want Forretress, it'll lay down all Spikes and Set up rocks. Shuckle is a great Pokemon in SS too. Hail can also be stall but a 100% accurate Blizzard really calls for an offensive move set on at least some Pokes, Ice is after all one of the best offensive types have wide type coverage (mix Mamoswine is a great offensive choice). I wrote it fast so sorry for any mistakes.

[Astro Dude]

Well, that should help.

 

Now why I picked Groudon and Kyogre, they start Sun and Rain.

[Mr. Judgment Dragon]

Well' date=' that should help.

 

Now why I picked Groudon and Kyogre, they start Sun and Rain.

[/quote']

 

They're Ubers meaning, banned in Standard play. In Ubers however, they are musts on Sunny Day and Rain Dance teams respectively. For Standard play however, listen to Felix as he knows what he is doing.

[PANDORUM™]

I dont use Ubers tha much i think it makes your team unbalenced.

But some ubers are deffinatly musts in specific teams.

[Felix]

Just to clear things up, Uber=/=Legnedary. Ubers are the stupidly powful pokes, the reason we keep them out of standard is because it makes the Meta overly focused on them. Their power doesn't leave room for mistakes either. Not all legendaries are Uber and not all Ubers are legendary, Wobb and Chomp are both Uber while Celebii, Jirach, Birds, Dogs, Heatran and Cress aren't.

[Astro Dude]

Which would explain why they wouldn't let some Legendaries compete in the Orre Coliseum on X D, Gale of Darkness.

[Felix]

The banned Pokes list for games are different to the Meta Uber list. I'll post it and see if Flame wants to add it to the front page, it'll make for good reading.

 

EDIT: I've also put in some stuff about Clauses. Also if someone could write something about Skymin and GiratinO that'd be great

 

[spoiler=Uber/Ban List]

~ Mewtwo

~ Mew

~ Wobbuffet

~ Lugia

~ Ho-Oh

~ Latios

~ Kyogre

~ Groudon

~ Rayquaza

~ Deoxys (all forms)

~ Garchomp

~ Palkia

~ Dialga

~ Giratina

~ Darkrai

~ Arceus

 

[spoiler=Why?… It’s a good read' date= knock yourself out]

 

Ubers by FelixTheCat

 

Mewtwo

 

Total base stats hitting 680, this is one mean Pokémon, with an impressive movepool to boost. Not much will outspeed it, let alone a "counter" outspeeding it, and being able to damage it without being OHKO’d. With an insane movepool, this is one deadly beast. Many refer to Mewtwo as the ultimate Sweeper.

 

Mew

 

Mew's base stats "only" hit 600, but what it lacks in punch, it more than makes up for in terms of a movepool. Many of the "special" 600 BST Pokémon are NOT banned, Mew is for one simple reason - movesets. Even some of the deadlier standard Pokémon can be taken down with some common sense prediction, i.e. which moves it is using from its limited movepool? But how can you predict when your opponent can learn *almost* everything?

 

Wobbuffet

 

Many people shake their heads in disbelief at this one. Why is a 415 BST Pokémon on the Uber list? Decent HP and Mirror Coat and Counter allows it to be extremely difficult to kill in a single blow, and with it's decent HP, could reflect the damage back at you for a certain kill. Encore can trap you a move for up to 5 turns. Your opponent would then LOL as it switches to something else and sets up on you. Safeguard means that your attempts to status it will be null and void. Shadow Tag as well means you can't switch, simple as.

 

Now all of these individually are not that big a deal, as many Pokémon have the potential to perform these feats, but not all together at the same freakin’ time.

 

Shadow Tag also used to create the potential of a Wob v Wob showdown, but Shadow Tag has been changed so that other Shadow Taggers can escape each other. This blue blob is still a doozy.

 

Lugia

 

Lugia's base stats hit 680, like Mewtwo, and in some respects, Lugia is like a reverse Mewtwo. It is more defensive, whilst our Genetic friend is definitely more aggressive, albeit with a few extra weaknesses. However with the ability to recover that damage and boost its stats further, and possessing an impressive array of moves, Lugia is simply too cool for school, as they say, with the ability to wall almost anything.

 

Ho-oh

 

Famous for making in appearance in the anime, right in #1, before it was even named or featured in a video game, the advent of an even more aggressive metagame, in which the fire type is hindered further remains to be seen where Ho-oh will end up. Like its metallic twin, it possesses a 680 base stat total, and is more attack orientated than its psychic type counterpart. Despite losing 50% to stealth rock, it has a nasty movepool and enough attack power to say that if it switches in, despite being severely molested, it can set up and own, as well as being able to recover from those rocks. Very deadly and despite the ease in which it can be countered, it can still wipe out an entire team.

 

Latios

 

Many people think that Latios is acceptable WITHOUT the broken Soul Dew. First things first, Soul Dew is not as broken as it was in advance. Latias is more defensive, and the Soul Dew will boost her Special Defense whilst Latios is more offensive, and therefore the Soul Dew will boost his Special Attack. But could be considerd Uber without it. Both have a BST of 600, but with the important stats carrying the power, the two have some serious resistances and don't have the common 4x Ice weakness that plagues their Dragon cousins. Throw in an impressive movepool, the ability to use Recover to heal themselves and boost their already 1337 special capabilities, and you have some monsters that you wouldn't want to face. Latios also has the option of attacking on the physical side, with Dragon Dance and a higher attack stat. Latias however since testing has been found acceptable in a Standard eviroment even if there is a risk of it becoming more OU than Blissey.

 

Kyogre

 

Kyogre is a true beast, among Ubers. A trait that would make Tyranitar cry and even admit defeat, with a stat total hitting 680, and a movepool to hurt many types, a true beast to be feared. It couldn’t care less about the advantage it gives to the Electric types switching in, because with their general poor defensive stats, they will surely get hurt by powered up Water moves. Let alone the powerful Super Effective moves it learns as well as the fact that Grass and Electric types are rare in Ubers. Generally difficult to kill, especially on the special side, this monster will truly wash you away.

 

Groudon

 

Kyogre's nemesis. This was meant to be a fire type, but instead, they give it a type that has better resistances, but has a movepool that allows it to pretend that it is. It can run a few roles in the Uber metagame; sweeper, supportive, wall, you never know what to expect from it. Also gives help to other Pokemon in the metagame, as a Chlorophyll boost can just be what your Exeggutor waiting in the wings needs to outspeed and destroy your opponent’s team.

 

Rayquaza

 

Anyone who has been on the receiving end of a mauling by a Salamence will know the pain when you imagine a stronger version of it, with an even better movepool and 80 extra stats. Sure it might be slightly slower, but what it loses in pace it makes up for in punch and most Salamence sets Dragon Dance anyway so wouldn't utilize the natural Speed. It is only one of 2 Pokemon that can Dragon Dance and Outrage, reason enough to ban it with 150 base attack. A truly fearsome beast that couldn’t care less if you had a Pokemon with STAB Ice Beam on it if holding a Yache berry or a Focus Sash. You'd better hope it kills it in one hit.

 

Deoxys (All Forms)

 

All 4 versions of Deoxys can be used and obtained in DP. All 4 have a 600 base stat total. Yet only 3 are Uber. Sharing the same insane movepool, the standard version is an offensive monster with limited defensive capabilities, but will seriously maim, if not kill almost any Pokémon it faces. The attacking monster has less defensive capabilities, it will likely fall to any attack, but will outspeed you more likely than not, and almost certainly end your Pokémon's role in that battle with extreme speed and attacking stats. The defensive version will not be going anywhere, and will likely Pressure stall you to death, whilst it lols at you and dusts off the damage with impressive defenses and recover, as well as setting up entry hazards which make switching in hard. The speed version was to be considered as OU, but after the popularity of the “Dual Screen” Deoxys-s, everyone was forced to have a very fast Taunter and games often balanced on the speed tie, i.e. whose Taunt went first. This made for a unanimous decision for it being Uber.

 

Garchomp

 

Garchomp is the newest Pokémon to enter the Uber realm, after terrorizing the OU metagame for many moons. With an attack stat almost reaching 400, bulk that rival’s Swampert and annoyingly enough speed to outspeed the base 105’s, Garchomp is a monster. The Swords Dance set (especially with a Yache Berry) was almost impossible to stop with one Pokemon, as one would break the Yache, while the other killed it. 1/3 of your team needed to bring down the Land Shark. Choice Scarf can outrun and kill with a speed that approaches 450. It can also run mixed, with the “ChainChomp” set, and have 28% chance to miss with the SubPowder set in Sandstorm. This is one shark that Jaws would have avoided.

 

Dialga

 

Dialga has a superb type combination, good movepool and a 680 base stat total, which is almost certain exclusion in itself. It can do all sorts of roles as well, with Bulk Up, Restalk, Trick Room Sweeper, and ordinary sweeper as well.

 

Palkia

 

Palkia has only one weakness, but is common in the Uber metagame. However, a 680 base stat total and just as useful a movepool, but not the defensive capabilities to support, but can sweep easier with better speed and Attack stat for the pink whore of special walling (Blissey).

 

Giratina

 

Giratina has a unique typing, the same 680 BST and a healthy mix of good moves. However, like Palkia, Giratina can only do one thing, but boy is it good at it. Stalling. With 150 Hp and Will-o-wisp, it can completely shut down physical attackers, while can EV it’s 120 SDef to take Special hits better as well.

 

Darkrai

 

Darkrai stupidly fast and has an 80% accuracy sleep move as well as a trait that eats at opponents HP if they are asleep, it can completely shut down any Restalk strategies. This is not the only thing it can do, as it can sweep with 135 base SAtk and Calm Mind AND NASTY PLOT!! This thing is the meaning of Broken. Oh and Focus Punch for Blissey off a decent, but not great Atk stat.

 

Arceus

 

Arceus… With base 720 Stats, the highest EVER made, and a movepool that is almost as big as Smeargle, this God Pokemon can do nearly everything in existence, and can do it well. As well as being generalized, it can also be used to counter specific threats, as it can be any type it likes, with a special 100 power STAB move no matter what. One of the more dangerous ones is the SD Extreme Speed physical attacker, which can only be countered 100% by Giratina but only if Arceus doesn’t have Night Slash (which it will… to counter Giratina). When it was revealed, many joked that it should be in a tier of its own. Forget what I said about Darkrai, this thing is the Pokemon equivalent of Black Luster Soldier – EOTB.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Clauses

 

Clauses are the do's and don’ts of Pokemon and help to regulate a battle so it doesn’t become a free for all to see who can Sleep all your opponent’s Pokemon the fastest.

 

[spoiler=Some standard clauses]

 

Evasion Clause

You and your opponent can not use evasion-increasing moves like double team and minimize.

 

Legit/legal Clause

None of the Pokemon can have illegal movesets, 999 in all stats, 255 EVs in all stats, or have been caught in places that they normally wouldn't have been caught at. An example of an illegal moveset would be would be a Magnezone with Flamethrower or Salamence with Ice Beam.

 

OHKO Clause

You and your opponent can not use moves that cause instant one-hit knockouts. Some examples would be sheer cold, fissure, Horn Drill and Guillotine.

 

Sleep Clause

Only one Pokemon can be put to sleep on each team. The only time you can use another sleep move is when the sleeping Pokemon either wakes up or faints, then your opponent can use a sleep move again. The move Rest does not count toward Sleep Clause, so if your opponent were to put a Pokemon asleep because of Rest, you can still use a sleep-inducing move on your opponent.

 

Species Clause

You and your opponent can not use more then one of the same Pokemon. This means that you or your opponent can not use two Infernapes or Garchomps or two of the same Pokemon in general.

 

Luck Items Clause

You and your opponent can not use Items that rely on luck to be activated. Some examples are Focus Band, Bright Powder, and Quick claw.

 

Soul Dew Clause

Can't use Soul Dew, nuff said.

 

 

 

[Astro Dude]

Thanks man.

[Mr. Judgment Dragon]

The banned Pokes list for games are different to the Meta Uber list. I'll post it and see if Flame wants to add it to the front page' date=' it'll make for good reading.

 

EDIT: I've also put in some stuff about Clauses. Also if someone could write something about Skymin and GiratinO that'd be great

 

[spoiler=Uber/Ban List]

~ Mewtwo

~ Mew

~ Wobbuffet

~ Lugia

~ Ho-Oh

~ Latios

~ Kyogre

~ Groudon

~ Rayquaza

~ Deoxys (all forms)

~ Garchomp

~ Palkia

~ Dialga

~ Giratina

~ Darkrai

~ Arceus

 

[spoiler=Why?… It’s a good read, knock yourself out]

 

Ubers by FelixTheCat

 

Mewtwo

 

Total base stats hitting 680, this is one mean Pokémon, with an impressive movepool to boost. Not much will outspeed it, let alone a "counter" outspeeding it, and being able to damage it without being OHKO’d. With an insane movepool, this is one deadly beast. Many refer to Mewtwo as the ultimate Sweeper.

 

Mew

 

Mew's base stats "only" hit 600, but what it lacks in punch, it more than makes up for in terms of a movepool. Many of the "special" 600 BST Pokémon are NOT banned, Mew is for one simple reason - movesets. Even some of the deadlier standard Pokémon can be taken down with some common sense prediction, i.e. which moves it is using from its limited movepool? But how can you predict when your opponent can learn *almost* everything?

 

Wobbuffet

 

Many people shake their heads in disbelief at this one. Why is a 415 BST Pokémon on the Uber list? Decent HP and Mirror Coat and Counter allows it to be extremely difficult to kill in a single blow, and with it's decent HP, could reflect the damage back at you for a certain kill. Encore can trap you a move for up to 5 turns. Your opponent would then LOL as it switches to something else and sets up on you. Safeguard means that your attempts to status it will be null and void. Shadow Tag as well means you can't switch, simple as.

 

Now all of these individually are not that big a deal, as many Pokémon have the potential to perform these feats, but not all together at the same freakin’ time.

 

Shadow Tag also used to create the potential of a Wob v Wob showdown, but Shadow Tag has been changed so that other Shadow Taggers can escape each other. This blue blob is still a doozy.

 

Lugia

 

Lugia's base stats hit 680, like Mewtwo, and in some respects, Lugia is like a reverse Mewtwo. It is more defensive, whilst our Genetic friend is definitely more aggressive, albeit with a few extra weaknesses. However with the ability to recover that damage and boost its stats further, and possessing an impressive array of moves, Lugia is simply too cool for school, as they say, with the ability to wall almost anything.

 

Ho-oh

 

Famous for making in appearance in the anime, right in #1, before it was even named or featured in a video game, the advent of an even more aggressive metagame, in which the fire type is hindered further remains to be seen where Ho-oh will end up. Like its metallic twin, it possesses a 680 base stat total, and is more attack orientated than its psychic type counterpart. Despite losing 50% to stealth rock, it has a nasty movepool and enough attack power to say that if it switches in, despite being severely molested, it can set up and own, as well as being able to recover from those rocks. Very deadly and despite the ease in which it can be countered, it can still wipe out an entire team.

 

Latios

 

Many people think that Latios is acceptable WITHOUT the broken Soul Dew. First things first, Soul Dew is not as broken as it was in advance. Latias is more defensive, and the Soul Dew will boost her Special Defense whilst Latios is more offensive, and therefore the Soul Dew will boost his Special Attack. But could be considerd Uber without it. Both have a BST of 600, but with the important stats carrying the power, the two have some serious resistances and don't have the common 4x Ice weakness that plagues their Dragon cousins. Throw in an impressive movepool, the ability to use Recover to heal themselves and boost their already 1337 special capabilities, and you have some monsters that you wouldn't want to face. Latios also has the option of attacking on the physical side, with Dragon Dance and a higher attack stat. Latias however since testing has been found acceptable in a Standard eviroment even if there is a risk of it becoming more OU than Blissey.

 

Kyogre

 

Kyogre is a true beast, among Ubers. A trait that would make Tyranitar cry and even admit defeat, with a stat total hitting 680, and a movepool to hurt many types, a true beast to be feared. It couldn’t care less about the advantage it gives to the Electric types switching in, because with their general poor defensive stats, they will surely get hurt by powered up Water moves. Let alone the powerful Super Effective moves it learns as well as the fact that Grass and Electric types are rare in Ubers. Generally difficult to kill, especially on the special side, this monster will truly wash you away.

 

Groudon

 

Kyogre's nemesis. This was meant to be a fire type, but instead, they give it a type that has better resistances, but has a movepool that allows it to pretend that it is. It can run a few roles in the Uber metagame; sweeper, supportive, wall, you never know what to expect from it. Also gives help to other Pokemon in the metagame, as a Chlorophyll boost can just be what your Exeggutor waiting in the wings needs to outspeed and destroy your opponent’s team.

 

Rayquaza

 

Anyone who has been on the receiving end of a mauling by a Salamence will know the pain when you imagine a stronger version of it, with an even better movepool and 80 extra stats. Sure it might be slightly slower, but what it loses in pace it makes up for in punch and most Salamence sets Dragon Dance anyway so wouldn't utilize the natural Speed. It is only one of 2 Pokemon that can Dragon Dance and Outrage, reason enough to ban it with 150 base attack. A truly fearsome beast that couldn’t care less if you had a Pokemon with STAB Ice Beam on it if holding a Yache berry or a Focus Sash. You'd better hope it kills it in one hit.

 

Deoxys (All Forms)

 

All 4 versions of Deoxys can be used and obtained in DP. All 4 have a 600 base stat total. Yet only 3 are Uber. Sharing the same insane movepool, the standard version is an offensive monster with limited defensive capabilities, but will seriously maim, if not kill almost any Pokémon it faces. The attacking monster has less defensive capabilities, it will likely fall to any attack, but will outspeed you more likely than not, and almost certainly end your Pokémon's role in that battle with extreme speed and attacking stats. The defensive version will not be going anywhere, and will likely Pressure stall you to death, whilst it lols at you and dusts off the damage with impressive defenses and recover, as well as setting up entry hazards which make switching in hard. The speed version was to be considered as OU, but after the popularity of the “Dual Screen” Deoxys-s, everyone was forced to have a very fast Taunter and games often balanced on the speed tie, i.e. whose Taunt went first. This made for a unanimous decision for it being Uber.

 

Garchomp

 

Garchomp is the newest Pokémon to enter the Uber realm, after terrorizing the OU metagame for many moons. With an attack stat almost reaching 400, bulk that rival’s Swampert and annoyingly enough speed to outspeed the base 105’s, Garchomp is a monster. The Swords Dance set (especially with a Yache Berry) was almost impossible to stop with one Pokemon, as one would break the Yache, while the other killed it. 1/3 of your team needed to bring down the Land Shark. Choice Scarf can outrun and kill with a speed that approaches 450. It can also run mixed, with the “ChainChomp” set, and have 28% chance to miss with the SubPowder set in Sandstorm. This is one shark that Jaws would have avoided.

 

Dialga

 

Dialga has a superb type combination, good movepool and a 680 base stat total, which is almost certain exclusion in itself. It can do all sorts of roles as well, with Bulk Up, Restalk, Trick Room Sweeper, and ordinary sweeper as well.

 

Palkia

 

Palkia has only one weakness, but is common in the Uber metagame. However, a 680 base stat total and just as useful a movepool, but not the defensive capabilities to support, but can sweep easier with better speed and Attack stat for the pink whore of special walling (Blissey).

 

Giratina

 

Giratina has a unique typing, the same 680 BST and a healthy mix of good moves. However, like Palkia, Giratina can only do one thing, but boy is it good at it. Stalling. With 150 Hp and Will-o-wisp, it can completely shut down physical attackers, while can EV it’s 120 SDef to take Special hits better as well.

 

Darkrai

 

Darkrai stupidly fast and has an 80% accuracy sleep move as well as a trait that eats at opponents HP if they are asleep, it can completely shut down any Restalk strategies. This is not the only thing it can do, as it can sweep with 135 base SAtk and Calm Mind AND NASTY PLOT!! This thing is the meaning of Broken. Oh and Focus Punch for Blissey off a decent, but not great Atk stat.

 

Arceus

 

Arceus… With base 720 Stats, the highest EVER made, and a movepool that is almost as big as Smeargle, this God Pokemon can do nearly everything in existence, and can do it well. As well as being generalized, it can also be used to counter specific threats, as it can be any type it likes, with a special 100 power STAB move no matter what. One of the more dangerous ones is the SD Extreme Speed physical attacker, which can only be countered 100% by Giratina but only if Arceus doesn’t have Night Slash (which it will… to counter Giratina). When it was revealed, many joked that it should be in a tier of its own. Forget what I said about Darkrai, this thing is the Pokemon equivalent of Black Luster Soldier – EOTB.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Clauses

 

Clauses are the do's and don’ts of Pokemon and help to regulate a battle so it doesn’t become a free for all to see who can Sleep all your opponent’s Pokemon the fastest.

 

[spoiler=Some standard clauses]

 

Evasion Clause

You and your opponent can not use evasion-increasing moves like double team and minimize.

 

Legit/legal Clause

None of the Pokemon can have illegal movesets, 999 in all stats, 255 EVs in all stats, or have been caught in places that they normally wouldn't have been caught at. An example of an illegal moveset would be would be a Magnezone with Flamethrower or Salamence with Ice Beam.

 

OHKO Clause

You and your opponent can not use moves that cause instant one-hit knockouts. Some examples would be sheer cold, fissure, Horn Drill and Guillotine.

 

Sleep Clause

Only one Pokemon can be put to sleep on each team. The only time you can use another sleep move is when the sleeping Pokemon either wakes up or faints, then your opponent can use a sleep move again. The move Rest does not count toward Sleep Clause, so if your opponent were to put a Pokemon asleep because of Rest, you can still use a sleep-inducing move on your opponent.

 

Species Clause

You and your opponent can not use more then one of the same Pokemon. This means that you or your opponent can not use two Infernapes or Garchomps or two of the same Pokemon in general.

 

Luck Items Clause

You and your opponent can not use Items that rely on luck to be activated. Some examples are Focus Band, Bright Powder, and Quick claw.

 

Soul Dew Clause

Can't use Soul Dew, nuff said.

 

 

 

 

I might be able to come up with one for Skymin.

 

Skymin (Shaymin Sky Forme)

 

Serene Grace making Seed Flare's Special Defense drop an 80% chance of occuring instead of the regular 40% before factoring accuracy. Base 120 Special Attack plus Base 127 Speed and you have a powerful Special Sweeper. Its Attack is decent too at Base 103 plus the fact Skymin has access to Swords Dance it can be a physical Sweeper too.

[~/Coolio Prime\~]

Did they finally unban Wynaut?……

[Mr. Judgment Dragon]

Did they finally unban Wynaut?……

 

According to Smogon, it's still an Uber.

[PANDORUM™]

Lol a Uber smaller that your foot but nothing new Shamin, Mew and Jerachi are quite small.