Tekken Ham Posted June 1, 2009 Report Share Posted June 1, 2009 :cry:Ursaring:cry: You won't be saying that when Ursaring smacks you across the face with a Facade... That's like 1 pokemon out of... How many are NU again? There are maybe 10 NU's that can work in an OU environment. There are a good bit that work in UU. I haven't really delved into the NU meta at all yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Posted June 1, 2009 Report Share Posted June 1, 2009 You have to agree that Pokes like Articuno, Ursaring and Entei shouldn't be in that tier though? It doesn't really matter much seeing as how they can still be used by preference in other tiers but still, it seems stupid to put something with those BS into the NU tier. lol, did you see the anniecarrots vid about changing the name NU to NOU? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted June 1, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 1, 2009 NU does have many good pokemon in it that can be used well in UU. Those being Hitmonchan, Hypno, Gastrodon, Jumpluff, Marowak (On TR teams) Medicham, Persian, Sharpedo, Tangrowth, Tauros, Shuckle, Ursaring, Wailord, and Walrein (good in UU alone, and on Hail teams he's a god). That isn't even counting several NFE pokemon that work great in both NU and UU, one of those is Rhydon. Also tier placement doesn't affect how good a pokemon is. Hell I've seen several of those pokemon on OU teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tekken Ham Posted June 1, 2009 Report Share Posted June 1, 2009 You have to agree that Pokes like Articuno' date=' Ursaring and Entei shouldn't be in that tier though? It doesn't really matter much seeing as how they can still be used by preference in other tiers but still, it seems stupid to put something with those BS into the NU tier. lol, did you see the anniecarrots vid about changing the name NU to NOU?[/quote'] Yeah, NU is just a generic label for everything that's not used at least sometime. Someone needs to get off their ass at Smogon and define it, and we would probably see a new tier come up between NU and UU. Also, I saw the video, it was hilarious. anniecarrots also apparently lives in the same state as me. O.o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Posted June 1, 2009 Report Share Posted June 1, 2009 Zexaeon's Hail Team is the best I've seen. I hate Stallrein soooo much. I had to PP stall the stupid thing to actually get it to stop working. @Tekken: FIND HER!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tekken Ham Posted June 1, 2009 Report Share Posted June 1, 2009 Zexaeon's Hail Team is the best I've seen. I hate Stallrein soooo much. I had to PP stall the stupid thing to actually get it to stop working. @Tekken: FIND HER!! I liek teh Stallrein as long as I still have Emo. Taunt+DBond. Discounting freeze hax, I can take that out with no effort, or scare it away. And yeah, I'll go stalk her, it's not like Maryland is a big state. And then I'll kidnap her and ship her off to England so you can force her to Pokemon Battle you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrickyPooBoy Posted June 1, 2009 Report Share Posted June 1, 2009 I hate Dragon because it took the fun out of Pokemon. Every team has to include any one of those things. And good job. I'm leaving this thread and my ideas with my favorite Pokemon. And thanks for trying to crush my dreams, Cheese Pirate. Or was it Tekken Ham? Either way, this 10-year old will find a way. XatuAmpharosHypnoSandslashExploudUrsaring Exploud and Ursaring have a FIGHT weakness, which is Xatu and Hypno's purpose. Xatu and Hypno have a GHOST weakness. That's what Exploud and Ursaring are for. Ampharos can defend itself against GROUND, because of Magnet Rise and Ice Punch. Sandslash is just there because of its nice attack, and plus I need a ground dude. My teams weakness is probably a Gengar with Focus Blast and Shadow Ball and Dark Pulse. Anyway, point is, I'm gone from this thread and don't expect to see me much more. I can say I was a snot-nosed brat about Smogon, but I just don't want to copy ideas off there. I've got my own ways. Anyway, thanks everyone in some ways, and no thanks in some. Bye! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Posted June 1, 2009 Report Share Posted June 1, 2009 God, you are so oblivious to how bad you are aren't you? n00b The Smogon sets are proven to work, the stuff you will make won't come close. You still don't know what EVs and IVs do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tekken Ham Posted June 1, 2009 Report Share Posted June 1, 2009 I hate Dragon because it took the fun out of Pokemon.How so? Because everyone uses them? Scizor is the most OU poke in the game' date=' so hate on Steel/Bug types while you're at it.[/b'] Every team has to include any one of those things. I'm pretty sure my team doesn't have a dragon, and it runs pretty damn well. And good job. I'm leaving this thread and my ideas with my favorite Pokemon.*happy faic* And thanks for trying to crush my dreams, Cheese Pirate. Or was it Tekken Ham?*Bigger happy faic* Either way, this 10-year old will find a way.Read Smogon and listen to other players, like my 10 year old sister. XatuAmpharosHypnoSandslashExploudUrsaring Exploud and Ursaring have a FIGHT weakness, which is Xatu and Hypno's purpose. OROROROROROROROROR!!!!! You can not run two pokemon with a Fighting weakness! Xatu and Hypno have a GHOST weakness. That's what Exploud and Ursaring are for.ORORORORORROROROR!!!!! You can not run two pokemon with a Ghost weakness!Ampharos an defend itself against GROUND, because of Magnet Rise and Ice Punch.No, alot of ground types can revenge kill with ease in the OU setting, and many in the UU/NU tier can wall Ampharos, even if it has Ice Punch. Because Ampharos has a piddly sheet base 75 Atk stat, and Ice Punch isn't STAB. And many Ground NU's/UU's, Golem, Rhydon, and Steelix can wall it to death. Ampharos has a base 55 Speed stat, so it's not going to be outspeeding anything and getting the Magnet Rise up. Sandslash is just there because of its nice attack, and plus I need a ground dude.Or you can run the only thing it should be used for... RAPID SPIN, but I guess you just ignored that move because it was weak and you ran a bunch of attacking moves and Swords Dance. Which is like the Smogon set, but without Rapid Spin. My teams weakness is probably a Gengar with Focus Blast and Shadow Ball and Dark Pulse.Sandslash has Night Slash. n00b. Besides, Gengar outspeeds almost everything on your team, so stick an LO on it, and it can sweep your team before you do anything Anyway, point is, I'm gone from this thread and don't expect to see me much more. I can say I was a snot-nosed brat about Smogon, but I just don't want to copy ideas off there. I've got my own ways.I don't like copying ideas either, but they're on there because they work. Good luck finding another set that works without borrowing something from an already existing set.Anyway, thanks everyone in some ways, and no thanks in some. Bye! kthxbai EDIT: AN WINNER IS I! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted June 2, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 I hate Dragon because it took the fun out of Pokemon.No' date=' they didn't. In fact most of the dragons are banned. The most OU type is steel.[/b']Every team has to include any one of those things.Wrong, my main teams doesn't have a Dragon.And good job. I'm leaving this thread and my ideas with my favorite Pokemon.Just because people say you suck? Sorry to say that is just how life is. You won't get better at anything unless you learn how much you suck. XatuAmpharosHypnoSandslashExploudUrsaring Exploud and Ursaring have a FIGHT weakness, which is Xatu and Hypno's purpose.Why use 2 Normals? They aren't helpful and there are many pokemon, that aren't OU, that are better then them bothXatu and Hypno have a GHOST weakness. That's what Exploud and Ursaring are for.Or you could use a steel type how has the same cover the normals do, only they help a lot thanks to how many types hit them for half damage.Ampharos can defend itself against GROUND, because of Magnet Rise and Ice Punch.Most ground types are faster then Ampharos so odds are you'll die before you can rise. Also most grounds have defence up the @$$, so the low 75 base attack will let him do little damageSandslash is just there because of its nice attack, and plus I need a ground dude.If you need a ground dude use Gastrodon. One weakness, is NU, and is still a great pokemonMy teams weakness is probably a Gengar with Focus Blast and Shadow Ball and Dark Pulse.Also pokemon with a high attack since your pokemon have glass defences.Anyway, point is, I'm gone from this thread and don't expect to see me much more. I can say I was a snot-nosed brat about Smogon, but I just don't want to copy ideas off there. I've got my own ways.Yes you do, but they aren't good. Your using bad pokemon because there bad? Where will that get you. I get you don't want to spam the basic OU pokemon, but you can do much better then the pokemon you picked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Judgment Dragon Posted June 2, 2009 Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 I hate Dragon because it took the fun out of Pokemon. Every team has to include any one of those things. No they don't. I hardly ever have a Dragon on my main team because almost all of them have a huge Ice weakness that no amount of Training or support can cover up. One strong Ice Beam is usually enough to kill a Dragon / Flying (Salamence' date=' Dragonite and any other Dragon / Flying) or a Dragon / Ground (Flygon and any other Ground / Dragon) in any environment. And good job. I'm leaving this thread and my ideas with my favorite Pokemon. About time. But don't think you can win by using your favourites. And thanks for trying to crush my dreams' date=' Cheese Pirate. Or was it Tekken Ham?[/quote'] Same guy. Cheese Pirate = Tekken Ham. The only way to get better like Flame Dragon said is to realize how much you suck. Either way' date=' this 10-year old will find a way.[/quote'] Good. Start by rethinking your team. XatuAmpharosHypnoSandslashExploudUrsaring Exploud and Ursaring have a FIGHT weakness' date=' which is Xatu and Hypno's purpose. Xatu and Hypno have a GHOST weakness. That's what Exploud and Ursaring are for. Ampharos can defend itself against GROUND, because of Magnet Rise and Ice Punch. Sandslash is just there because of its nice attack, and plus I need a ground dude. My teams weakness is probably a Gengar with Focus Blast and Shadow Ball and Dark Pulse. Anyway, point is, I'm gone from this thread and don't expect to see me much more. I can say I was a snot-nosed brat about Smogon, but I just don't want to copy ideas off there. I've got my own ways. Anyway, thanks everyone in some ways, and no thanks in some. Bye![/quote'] Use a team with different types. Geez. You will not get anywhere like this. Not only that, the majority of your team has plenty of common weaknesses. Xatu and Hypno share their weaknesses with the exception of Bug-Type, Exploud and Ursaring share the same weakness that I won't get into since it should be obvious why. You also couldv'e picked a better Electric type like Jolteon. Faster, better Special Attack and yeah. Or if you wanted something immune to Ground but also Electric-Type, why not Zapdos? Better Speed and Special Attack, immune to Ground but even then you still have weaknesses to Rock and Ice to overcome. Or even Electivire which has the benefit of its Ability as well as worthwhile ATK and reasonable speed. And Sandslash. Use it for its intended purpose only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Darkness Posted June 2, 2009 Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 I hate Dragon because it took the fun out of Pokemon. Every team has to include any one of those things. No they don't. I hardly ever have a Dragon on my main team because almost all of them have a huge Ice weakness that no amount of Training or support can cover up. One strong Ice Beam is usually enough to kill a Dragon / Flying (Salamence' date=' Dragonite and any other Dragon / Flying) or a Dragon / Ground (Flygon and any other Ground / Dragon) in any environment. And good job. I'm leaving this thread and my ideas with my favorite Pokemon. About time. But don't think you can win by using your favourites. And thanks for trying to crush my dreams' date=' Cheese Pirate. Or was it Tekken Ham?[/quote'] Same guy. Cheese Pirate = Tekken Ham. The only way to get better like Flame Dragon said is to realize how much you suck. Either way' date=' this 10-year old will find a way.[/quote'] Good. Start by rethinking your team. XatuAmpharosHypnoSandslashExploudUrsaring Exploud and Ursaring have a FIGHT weakness' date=' which is Xatu and Hypno's purpose. Xatu and Hypno have a GHOST weakness. That's what Exploud and Ursaring are for. Ampharos can defend itself against GROUND, because of Magnet Rise and Ice Punch. Sandslash is just there because of its nice attack, and plus I need a ground dude. My teams weakness is probably a Gengar with Focus Blast and Shadow Ball and Dark Pulse. Anyway, point is, I'm gone from this thread and don't expect to see me much more. I can say I was a snot-nosed brat about Smogon, but I just don't want to copy ideas off there. I've got my own ways. Anyway, thanks everyone in some ways, and no thanks in some. Bye![/quote'] Use a team with different types. Geez. You will not get anywhere like this. Not only that, the majority of your team has plenty of common weaknesses. Xatu and Hypno share their weaknesses with the exception of Bug-Type, Exploud and Ursaring share the same weakness that I won't get into since it should be obvious why. You also couldv'e picked a better Electric type like Jolteon. Faster, better Special Attack and yeah. Or if you wanted something immune to Ground but also Electric-Type, why not Zapdos? Better Speed and Special Attack, immune to Ground but even then you still have weaknesses to Rock and Ice to overcome. Or even Electivire which has the benefit of its Ability as well as worthwhile ATK and reasonable speed. And Sandslash. Use it for its intended purpose only. Yes, Xatu shares weaknesses with Hypno, but the part-Flying type gives advantages over Bug and Grass, which is crucial since this team doesn't have a Fire type.A better Electric-Type? Are you forgetting Ampharos has the highest Sp. Atk of all non-Legendary Electric-Types. Oh, and Jolteon has very low Def, Sp. Def and HP. Plus it learns its moves very late. Electrivire is almost as slow and doesn't have very good Sp. Atk; it's all in its Atk...so attacks like Thunderbolt and Discharge are very weak when used by an Electrivire.I agree that Sandslash is a weak Pokemon. Mostly because it only learns one Ground Type move and has to be taught Earthquake. Dugtrio always saw me through Red and Yellow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Judgment Dragon Posted June 2, 2009 Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 I hate Dragon because it took the fun out of Pokemon. Every team has to include any one of those things. No they don't. I hardly ever have a Dragon on my main team because almost all of them have a huge Ice weakness that no amount of Training or support can cover up. One strong Ice Beam is usually enough to kill a Dragon / Flying (Salamence' date=' Dragonite and any other Dragon / Flying) or a Dragon / Ground (Flygon and any other Ground / Dragon) in any environment. And good job. I'm leaving this thread and my ideas with my favorite Pokemon. About time. But don't think you can win by using your favourites. And thanks for trying to crush my dreams' date=' Cheese Pirate. Or was it Tekken Ham?[/quote'] Same guy. Cheese Pirate = Tekken Ham. The only way to get better like Flame Dragon said is to realize how much you suck. Either way' date=' this 10-year old will find a way.[/quote'] Good. Start by rethinking your team. XatuAmpharosHypnoSandslashExploudUrsaring Exploud and Ursaring have a FIGHT weakness' date=' which is Xatu and Hypno's purpose. Xatu and Hypno have a GHOST weakness. That's what Exploud and Ursaring are for. Ampharos can defend itself against GROUND, because of Magnet Rise and Ice Punch. Sandslash is just there because of its nice attack, and plus I need a ground dude. My teams weakness is probably a Gengar with Focus Blast and Shadow Ball and Dark Pulse. Anyway, point is, I'm gone from this thread and don't expect to see me much more. I can say I was a snot-nosed brat about Smogon, but I just don't want to copy ideas off there. I've got my own ways. Anyway, thanks everyone in some ways, and no thanks in some. Bye![/quote'] Use a team with different types. Geez. You will not get anywhere like this. Not only that, the majority of your team has plenty of common weaknesses. Xatu and Hypno share their weaknesses with the exception of Bug-Type, Exploud and Ursaring share the same weakness that I won't get into since it should be obvious why. You also couldv'e picked a better Electric type like Jolteon. Faster, better Special Attack and yeah. Or if you wanted something immune to Ground but also Electric-Type, why not Zapdos? Better Speed and Special Attack, immune to Ground but even then you still have weaknesses to Rock and Ice to overcome. Or even Electivire which has the benefit of its Ability as well as worthwhile ATK and reasonable speed. And Sandslash. Use it for its intended purpose only. Yes, Xatu shares weaknesses with Hypno, but the part-Flying type gives advantages over Bug and Grass, which is crucial since this team doesn't have a Fire type.A better Electric-Type? Are you forgetting Ampharos has the highest Sp. Atk of all non-Legendary Electric-Types. Oh, and Jolteon has very low Def, Sp. Def and HP. Plus it learns its moves very late. Electrivire is almost as slow and doesn't have very good Sp. Atk; it's all in its Atk...so attacks like Thunderbolt and Discharge are very weak when used by an Electrivire.I agree that Sandslash is a weak Pokemon. Mostly because it only learns one Ground Type move and has to be taught Earthquake. Dugtrio always saw me through Red and Yellow. Special Attack means nothing if you lack the speed to back it up. Sweeping capabilities are crippled. It is true that Choice Scarf exists but you would be better off using Jolteon as a Scarfer as it would outspeed anything without a Choice Scarf. Even as a Specs user, Ampharos is outdone by Jolteon. Jolteon is quicker and the minor Special Attack difference wouldn't mean much. Ampharos is bulkier physically but Jolteon or Electivire will be doing a lot more. Ice Punch will cause more damage if used by Electivire than if it were used by Ampharos, Jolteon can actually take out a Starmie without risk of being taken out by an STAB Psychic or Surf possibly boosted by Choice Specs and both Electivire and Jolteon are fully immune to Electric Attacks and get a nice gift in the form of health for Jolteon and Speed for Electivire. Jolteon does learn its moves late but are you forgetting that TMs exist and in Platinum TMs as well as Move Tutors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Darkness Posted June 2, 2009 Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 Sp. Atk is useful whatever speed you have. After all, most Rock-Type Pokemon have very high Attack, but low Speed. Ampharos has low Speed, but v.high Sp. Atk; and it's Def and Sp. Def are much better than Jolteon's. Jolteon may get hit by less attacks, but those that do hit it will wipe it out.Plus, you would never teach Ampharos Ice Punch (because it can't learn it); and it's offensive capabilities are based on Special moves such as Thunderbolt, Power Gem and Signal Beam. Electrivire has very high Atk, but low Sp. Atk; meaning that ThunderPunch is a better bet for an Electrivire.It doesn't matter that Jolteon and Electrivire are both immune to Electric moves. Whose going to use an Electric move on Ampharos, Jolteon or Electrivire anyway? BTW, I've yet to be beaten with this team...what does this forum make of it? GardevoirHoundoomRoseradeMiloticLucarioSalamence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Posted June 2, 2009 Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 trololol, Ampharos doesn't have the highest noob. Magneton has higher SpA and it's not even fully evolved. Ampharos is a bad Pokemon, get over yourself and accept it. Also I'm pretty damn sure I'd pwn you. Do you have WiFi or Shoddy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astro Dude Posted June 2, 2009 Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 I just raised an Anorith to evolve into an Armaldo that knows Crush Claw, Ancient Power, Water Gun and X-Scissor. But if you wan't my opinion don't evolve Anorith at all because Anorith is fast and when it does evolve it's like the attack Curse: "It sacrificed speed to raise its Attack power." To evolve Anorith or not is anyone's choice. I just wanted to let you know, unless you already do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Posted June 2, 2009 Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 Stop embarrassing yourself. Do some research before you post stuff like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Judgment Dragon Posted June 2, 2009 Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 Sp. Atk is useful whatever speed you have. After all' date=' most Rock-Type Pokemon have very high Attack, but low Speed. Ampharos has low Speed, but v.high Sp. Atk; and it's Def and Sp. Def are much better than Jolteon's. Jolteon may get hit by less attacks, but those that do hit it will wipe it out.Plus, you would never teach Ampharos Ice Punch (because it can't learn it); and it's offensive capabilities are based on Special moves such as Thunderbolt, Power Gem and Signal Beam. Electrivire has very high Atk, but low Sp. Atk; meaning that ThunderPunch is a better bet for an Electrivire.[/quote'] Choice Band for Electivire says otherwise about Thunder Punch. Choice Band makes STAB Thunder Punch by Electivire more powerful than an STAB Thunderbolt by the same Pokemon. The majority of Rock-Type Pokemon with high ATK are usually bulky anyhow. In OU, Tyranitar has its ability which makes it bulky both Physically and Specially and Rhypherior which has high ATK, high DEF, high HP and Solid Rock can take advantage of Tyranitar's Sand Stream nicely. Aerodactyl while not bulky has a base Speed equal to Jolteon and a good base ATK. That just covers the OU environment. It doesn't matter that Jolteon and Electrivire are both immune to Electric moves. Whose going to use an Electric move on Ampharos' date=' Jolteon or Electrivire anyway?[/quote'] Someone hasn't heard of switch-ins. No one with half a brain would use an Electric move on Electivire or Jolteon. Switch-Ins exist so that can hardly be avoided unless your packing Pursuit and your opponent mispredicts. BTW' date=' I've yet to be beaten with this team...what does this forum make of it? GardevoirHoundoomRoseradeMiloticLucarioSalamence[/quote'] Good for you that you're unbeaten. Have fun getting beaten by Felix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Darkness Posted June 2, 2009 Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 trololol' date=' Ampharos doesn't have the highest noob. Magneton has higher SpA and it's not even fully evolved. Ampharos is a bad Pokemon, get over yourself and accept it. Also I'm pretty damn sure I'd pwn you. Do you have WiFi or Shoddy?[/quote'] What's your team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Posted June 2, 2009 Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 WTF would I tell you, just so I could let you make a full team of counters for it? It's pretty stupid to post your team unless everybody already knows what it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astro Dude Posted June 2, 2009 Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 Stop embarrassing yourself. Do some research before you post stuff like that. I didn't have to research it. I played it. I had the daycare lady raise it for me. One time I picked it up it's speed was like 108. That's pretty fast for a Rock pokemon unless you've seen faster. The Max speed is 139 for a Lv. 50. When it evolves it's speed taked a drastic nosedive. How's that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Posted June 2, 2009 Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 *sigh*... Does Aerodactyl ring any bells? The joint 2nd fastest none legendary in the game? Anorith isn't fast, it has a max Spe of 273, that is slow, very slow. Armaldo is also slower but with an extra 70something ATK and more bulk, nobody cares. In fact nobody cares about either of them.Stop being a n00b. Now get Shoddy Battle, register and then battle me, so I can show you how bad at this game you really are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted June 2, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 *sigh*... Does Aerodactyl ring any bells? The joint 2nd fastest none legendary in the game? Your wrong here. The Base 130 speeds are the third fastest speed tier (not counting legendaries). I hate Dragon because it took the fun out of Pokemon. Every team has to include any one of those things. No they don't. I hardly ever have a Dragon on my main team because almost all of them have a huge Ice weakness that no amount of Training or support can cover up. One strong Ice Beam is usually enough to kill a Dragon / Flying (Salamence' date=' Dragonite and any other Dragon / Flying) or a Dragon / Ground (Flygon and any other Ground / Dragon) in any environment. And good job. I'm leaving this thread and my ideas with my favorite Pokemon. About time. But don't think you can win by using your favourites. And thanks for trying to crush my dreams' date=' Cheese Pirate. Or was it Tekken Ham?[/quote'] Same guy. Cheese Pirate = Tekken Ham. The only way to get better like Flame Dragon said is to realize how much you suck. Either way' date=' this 10-year old will find a way.[/quote'] Good. Start by rethinking your team. XatuAmpharosHypnoSandslashExploudUrsaring Exploud and Ursaring have a FIGHT weakness' date=' which is Xatu and Hypno's purpose. Xatu and Hypno have a GHOST weakness. That's what Exploud and Ursaring are for. Ampharos can defend itself against GROUND, because of Magnet Rise and Ice Punch. Sandslash is just there because of its nice attack, and plus I need a ground dude. My teams weakness is probably a Gengar with Focus Blast and Shadow Ball and Dark Pulse. Anyway, point is, I'm gone from this thread and don't expect to see me much more. I can say I was a snot-nosed brat about Smogon, but I just don't want to copy ideas off there. I've got my own ways. Anyway, thanks everyone in some ways, and no thanks in some. Bye![/quote'] Use a team with different types. Geez. You will not get anywhere like this. Not only that, the majority of your team has plenty of common weaknesses. Xatu and Hypno share their weaknesses with the exception of Bug-Type, Exploud and Ursaring share the same weakness that I won't get into since it should be obvious why. You also couldv'e picked a better Electric type like Jolteon. Faster, better Special Attack and yeah. Or if you wanted something immune to Ground but also Electric-Type, why not Zapdos? Better Speed and Special Attack, immune to Ground but even then you still have weaknesses to Rock and Ice to overcome. Or even Electivire which has the benefit of its Ability as well as worthwhile ATK and reasonable speed. And Sandslash. Use it for its intended purpose only. Yes, Xatu shares weaknesses with Hypno, but the part-Flying type gives advantages over Bug and Grass, which is crucial since this team doesn't have a Fire type.A better Electric-Type? Are you forgetting Ampharos has the highest Sp. Atk of all non-Legendary Electric-Types.First he doesn't have the highest special attack, that goes to Magnazone. Second high attack is useless if you die before you go.Oh, and Jolteon has very low Def, Sp. Def and HP. Plus it learns its moves very late.One, Jolteon is a hit and run type pokemon. Comes in the force something out, while he does so he causes some heavy damage thanks to his 110 base Sp Atk. Second even if you can't switch odds are your going to hit the opponent before they kill you so at least you caused some damage. Why does when the moves a learned matter?Electrivire is almost as slow and doesn't have very good Sp. Atk; it's all in its Atk...so attacks like Thunderbolt and Discharge are very weak when used by an Electrivire.Electrivire has a base speed of 90 if I'm not mistaken and wile he won't win any metals he is faster then a fair number of pokemon, and this is with out the speed boost. His Sp. ATK, while noit high, is decent so he can pull a mixed set well. Pus he has many good moves to make use of his very high ATK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Posted June 2, 2009 Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 @Flame: Poop, I actually counted Ninjask then Voltorb and I still wrote 2nd:cry: Still, he's a fast guy. Also, I'm making a mono team (Poison) for a Shoddy gym thing on YCM. Can you try to kick my @$$ please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted June 2, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 @Flame: Poop' date=' I actually counted Ninjask then Voltorb and I still wrote 2nd:cry: Still, he's a fast guy. Also, I'm making a mono team (Poison) for a Shoddy gym thing on YCM. Can you try to kick my @$$ please?[/quote']Sure. I'll use my rock team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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