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What's ev training?

Whenever a pokemon faints it gives EV points based on it's highest stat and what form it is in the evolutionary chain. For example, Magikarp the first form gives 1 SPE EV since speed is it's best stat. Gyarados on the other hand give 2 ATK EVs since that is his best stat. Now, what do these numbers do? For every 4 points you get the net value of the stat increases by one. So after killing 2 Gyarados your actual ATK will go up by 1 point next time you level up. However, their is a limit to the amount of EVs you can get. Each pokemon can only handle 510 points worth of EVs and each stat can only get 255 points. This means if you max out a stat it will be 63 points higher then if you used rare candies to go from level 1 to 100.

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Alright, I've decided to use Sigilyph as my trusty wall pokemon, however, there's a problem. I want it to learn:

 

Cosmic Power

Stored Power

Roost

Psycho Shift

 

I plan to my Sigilyph to breed a Xatu, but it leaves out Roost...and if I get Roost, it leaves out Psycho Shift and Stored Power...I was thinking of a chain breed, but that takes a lot of effort. Any suggestions?

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Umbreon @Leftovers

Synchronize

Nature:???

EV's: ATK 168 / SDEF 168 / Health 172

Curse

Baton Pass

Moonlight/Substitute

Payback

I need some help with his set. I have no idea what nature to use and my EV spread is probably horrible. I'm not sure if I should use sub or moonlight. Any ideas?

Also, don't tell me to scrap it. I want to try something you don't see on wifi everyday.

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I don't get why it wouldn't be able to breed Roost with Xatu if you just move on from 4th gen. Also Psycho Shift isn't worth it imo. Cosmic Power can be subbed with Calm Mind.

 

Well let's just say it takes lots of effort and walking to do all that. The reason I put Cosmic Power is to make a study wall, while Psycho Shift shifts the effect of a held Flame or Toxic Orb, while I can reboot HP with Roost, and then when it's enough, Stored Power would be powerful with the help of Cosmic Power.

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Just curious, anyone know when smogon is gonna update their strategy dex with Gen V Pokemon or are they still playtesting everything? Been out of competitive for awhile.

Odds are they are still testing things.

 

Umbreon @Leftovers

Synchronize

Nature:???

EV's: ATK 168 / SDEF 168 / Health 172

Curse

Baton Pass

Moonlight/Substitute

Payback

I need some help with his set. I have no idea what nature to use and my EV spread is probably horrible. I'm not sure if I should use sub or moonlight. Any ideas?

Also, don't tell me to scrap it. I want to try something you don't see on wifi everyday.

For Nature +Sp DEF, - Sp ATK

For the EV you don't really need to boost them since Curse will increase it.

Healing moves are always nice so I'll go with that.

 

 

Well let's just say it takes lots of effort and walking to do all that. The reason I put Cosmic Power is to make a study wall, while Psycho Shift shifts the effect of a held Flame or Toxic Orb, while I can reboot HP with Roost, and then when it's enough, Stored Power would be powerful with the help of Cosmic Power.

Giving it an Orb is never good when Leftover exists. If your going to be taking attacks the extra 6% heal a turn is very important. As for Cosmic Power losing the DEF boost sucks, but you will no longer be splitting your EVs and you can specialize in Sp DEF making it a better wall overall. Stored Power should get just as strong with Calm Mind since like Power it boosts two stats at once as well. Hell, with the Sp ATK boost it should be stronger.

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Giving it an Orb is never good when Leftover exists. If your going to be taking attacks the extra 6% heal a turn is very important. As for Cosmic Power losing the DEF boost sucks, but you will no longer be splitting your EVs and you can specialize in Sp DEF making it a better wall overall. Stored Power should get just as strong with Calm Mind since like Power it boosts two stats at once as well. Hell, with the Sp ATK boost it should be stronger.

 

Well thanks for the advice...I breeded my Sigilyph so it appeared to have known Roost. So here it is now:

 

Sigilyph

Relaxed Nature

LV 50

Leftovers?

 

Cosmic Power

Whirlwind

Roost

Air Slash

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Yesterday, Smogon announced what's getting voted on this time:

 

Non-Pokemon:

Sand Stream

Drizzle

Drought

 

Pokemon:

Deoxys Speed Forme (only needs a simple majority)

Latios (only needs a simple majority)

Garchomp

Thundurus

Excadrill (only if Sand Stream is not banned)

Manaphy (remove from Ubers; only if Drizzle is banned)

 

Thoughts?

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i was just wondering, what nature(s) would be great for the following Pokemon:

- Volcarona +SpATK/-ATK

- Hydreigon +SpATK/-ATK

- Chandelure +SpATK/-ATK

- Haxorus +SPE/-SpATK

However spending on the move set and the item those might not be best. Try checking around on the smogon foums to see what they say.

 

Yesterday, Smogon announced what's getting voted on this time:

 

Non-Pokemon:

Sand Stream

Drizzle

Drought

 

Pokemon:

Deoxys Speed Forme (only needs a simple majority)

Latios (only needs a simple majority)

Garchomp

Thundurus

Excadrill (only if Sand Stream is not banned)

Manaphy (remove from Ubers; only if Drizzle is banned)

 

Thoughts?

It's been a while since I played, but I'll give my thoughts.

 

I'm fine with weather getting the ax.

 

Deoxys and Lat can go.

ATM, I don't think Chomp is that bad

Isn't part of Thundurus problem rain? Or have things changed that much?

I don't mind Excadrill, but it might have something to do with my team full of decent counters.

If Drizzle is gone I see don't see much reason for Manaphy to stay away.

 

And there goes the purpose of 5th gen

Yes, it's not like it didn't bring new pokemon, and moves, and abilities right?

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Well, started competitive battling..

Working on building a team, here's my reuniclus.

 

Modest

Regenerator

Calm mind 

Psychic 

Shadow ball/Substitute

Trick room/Recover

Your going to want Focus Blast over shadow Ball. But you'll need it to kill Dark types that would otherwise wall the set.

 

Recover is always a must on alls like him.

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Would anyone mind using a code I made so I can have my team. They're legit all the way down to hidden hex values due to them being ripped from my rom. I'll give rare shinies like shiny kyurem and shiny zorua as well as fully ev/iv'd legit pokemon if someone does this for me. my AR is to out of date to upgrade and i'm not buying an action replay DSi

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Yesterday was a big tournament. I didn't go, but my friends went, and they sent a Youtube vid seeing that he lost. I warned him lol :P

 

The tournament only allowed 4 pokemon from the Unova region only, so can anyone criticize what I have if I did attend:

 

Sigilyph

Relaxed Nature

Wonder Guard

Holding Nothing Currently

-Toxic

-Whirlwind

-Cosmic Power

-Roost

 

 

Whimsicott

Hardy Nature

Infiltrator

Leftovers

-Substitute

-Encore

-Hurricane

-Leech Seed

(I got impatient and used the Sun Stone before it could have learned Cotton Guard >.

 

Mienshao

Adamant Nature

Regenerator

Normal Gem

-Fake Out

-Substitute

-High Jump Kick

-Acrobatics

 

Volcarona

Modest Nature

Flame Body

Holding no item

-Fiery Dance

-Hurricane

-Quiver Dance

-Some other move...

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