Resident Fascist Posted April 15, 2011 Report Share Posted April 15, 2011 Deoxys - S is non-uber, in fact, I think it might even be BL or something. Its speed is ridiculous, it can put up layers, and other such. Overall, the only thing that keeps it from being broken is its hitpoints. It's only so I get the first hit. Can it learn explosion? I know alot of people who put thier main attacker first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTurtleOnceCalledGod Posted April 15, 2011 Report Share Posted April 15, 2011 It cannot legally learn Explosion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resident Fascist Posted April 15, 2011 Report Share Posted April 15, 2011 It cannot legally learn Explosion. Damn I wanted to WTFBOOM on the first turn to see the other guys reaction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tentacruel Posted April 15, 2011 Report Share Posted April 15, 2011 Acelgor is worth looking at. It can outspeed almost anything, and with max hp and Final Gambit, you can kill anything with 364 Hp or less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legokun Posted April 17, 2011 Report Share Posted April 17, 2011 OK, almost final team, might test with some kind of battle simulator to see if it works.+Choice Scarf ModestIce BeamToxicFlash CannonMirror Coat255 Speed and St. Atk EVs +Razor ClawAdamantMegahornIron HeadPoison JabSwords Dance255 Atk And Def EVs +LeftoversCalmHydro Pump ThunderBoltWill-O-WispLight Screen255 HP and Sp. Def +Sitrus BerryAdamantStone EdgeEarthquakeDragon ClawIron Head255 Atk and Speed +Lum BerryAdamantLeaf BladeX-ScissorSwords DanceReturn255 Atk and Speed +Expert BeltQuietNight DazeShadow BallFocus BlastFlamethrower255 Sp. Atk and Speed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTurtleOnceCalledGod Posted April 18, 2011 Report Share Posted April 18, 2011 The most you should ever put a stat to is 252, such that if you use 2x252, you have 504/510, thus you can give 4 to one other stat to give a +1 stat in that one. If you have nothing else to put it to, put it to hitpoints unless that one is already 252. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnSlaUghT Posted April 18, 2011 Report Share Posted April 18, 2011 OK, almost final team, might test with some kind of battle simulator to see if it works.+Expert BeltQuietNight DazeShadow BallFocus BlastFlamethrower255 Sp. Atk and Speed ewwwww, Quiet Natured Zoroark. Go for Naive if you want to run a Mixed set, or Timid if you want to run a special set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadius Posted April 18, 2011 Report Share Posted April 18, 2011 LeadactylJolly, UnnerveItem: Focus Sash EarthquakeStealth RockTauntStone Edge SlowbroRelaxed, Own TempoItem: Leftovers PsychicCalm MindScaldThunder Wave GarchompJolly, Sand VeilItem: Choice Scarf OutrageEarthquakeFire Fang(Not sure here since I go Stone Edge on Dactyl) VolcaronaTimid, Flame BodyItem: Life orb (Just for now wasn't sure what to do) Firey DanceQuiver DanceBug BuzzHidden Power (Ice) MachampAdament, GutsItem: I need help here Bullet PunchDynamic PunchPaybackIce Punch CofagrigusCalm, MummyItem: Leftovers Will-O-WispShadow BallPsychicCalm Mind i am a pokemon nub outside of sandstorm teams, just saying now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Posted April 18, 2011 Report Share Posted April 18, 2011 It doesn't really matter if you put 255 or 252 into a stat. Unless the 4 HP EVs are imperative so you don't take extra SR damage, you can put 255 and nothing bad is going to happen. Not like the one extra stat point will actually ever help. I still know nothing about the damn Gen V metagame. <_____< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted April 18, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 18, 2011 LeadactylJolly, UnnerveItem: Focus Sash EarthquakeStealth RockTauntStone Edge SlowbroRelaxed, Own TempoItem: Leftovers PsychicCalm MindScaldThunder Wave GarchompJolly, Sand VeilItem: Choice Scarf OutrageEarthquakeFire Fang(Not sure here since I go Stone Edge on Dactyl) VolcaronaTimid, Flame BodyItem: Life orb (Just for now wasn't sure what to do) Firey DanceQuiver DanceBug BuzzHidden Power (Ice) MachampAdament, GutsItem: I need help here Bullet PunchDynamic PunchPaybackIce Punch CofagrigusCalm, MummyItem: Leftovers Will-O-WispShadow BallPsychicCalm Mind i am a pokemon nub outside of sandstorm teams, just saying now.Team seems solid enough. For champ leftovers is almost always a must, Also his ability should almost always be No Guard to work with DyPun. If you want to keep the one you have drop Punch for Cross Chop and maybe use burn/toxic orb. Edge is good one Chomp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTurtleOnceCalledGod Posted April 18, 2011 Report Share Posted April 18, 2011 It doesn't really matter if you put 255 or 252 into a stat. Unless the 4 HP EVs are imperative so you don't take extra SR damage, you can put 255 and nothing bad is going to happen. Not like the one extra stat point will actually ever help.I still know nothing about the damn Gen V metagame. <_____<It slightly increases your probability of winning the game. Every hitpoint helps. I wonder how long it will take smogon university to figure out the current OU standings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tentacruel Posted April 21, 2011 Report Share Posted April 21, 2011 Quick little thought here. Poliwrath with Swift Swim makes an excellent Sub-Drummer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Posted April 22, 2011 Report Share Posted April 22, 2011 It slightly increases your probability of winning the game. Every hitpoint helps. I wonder how long it will take smogon university to figure out the current OU standings. I've been in upwards of 250 WiFi and ShoddyBattle battles, and I've never had an extra stat point in HP or Speed ever help me. The probability is so miniscule, and it almost never comes in to effect. Chances are when you run a damage calc, the maximum damage will surpass both HP stats, and the damage under that will leave you living on both fronts. It will almost never come into effect, so it honestly doesn't matter. When I EV train in-game, I do a 255/255 spread. When I'm playing on a simulator, though, I can use 252/252/4 since it doesn't take any more effort. :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTurtleOnceCalledGod Posted April 22, 2011 Report Share Posted April 22, 2011 Its easier to do the 4 EV in this game with feathers, just go back and forth on the Miraculous Bridge, its also a good place to hatch eggs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnSlaUghT Posted April 22, 2011 Report Share Posted April 22, 2011 Its easier to do the 4 EV in this game with feathers, just go back and forth on the Miraculous Bridge, its also a good place to hatch eggs. But you could run into Swannas I've been in upwards of 250 WiFi and ShoddyBattle battles, and I've never had an extra stat point in HP or Speed ever help me. The probability is so miniscule, and it almost never comes in to effect. Chances are when you run a damage calc, the maximum damage will surpass both HP stats, and the damage under that will leave you living on both fronts. It will almost never come into effect, so it honestly doesn't matter. When I EV train in-game, I do a 255/255 spread. When I'm playing on a simulator, though, I can use 252/252/4 since it doesn't take any more effort. :/ one time my Gengar lived a Super-Effective move on 1 health, without Focus Sash. Ever since then, I always put the 4 in HP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Posted April 23, 2011 Report Share Posted April 23, 2011 But you could run into Swannas one time my Gengar lived a Super-Effective move on 1 health, without Focus Sash. Ever since then, I always put the 4 in HP. One time in how many attacks? A few thousand? If you are on a simulator, fine. But why put in the extra effort when it won't end up mattering? The chances are so slight that it doesn't affect "win chance" whatsoever. It's extremely situational that your Scizor lives with 1 HP because you put in 4 extra HP EVs that ends up sweeping with CB Bullet Punch that ends up winning you the game which you would have lost otherwise because your other Pokemon was a Farfetch'd. Scizor was a bad example because of the nature of its HP, but my point still stands. It won't help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Engetsu Posted April 24, 2011 Report Share Posted April 24, 2011 For a special attacking Nidoking with Sheer Force, which nature is better for it? Timid or Modest? EDIT: Might go for Timid, since Nidoking still hits pretty hard with Life Orb+Sheer Force. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Force_Flex Posted April 24, 2011 Report Share Posted April 24, 2011 I'm really pissed off what they did with the berries. I can't use Unburden Drifblim Peteya sweeper without Dream World. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTurtleOnceCalledGod Posted April 24, 2011 Report Share Posted April 24, 2011 One time in how many attacks? A few thousand?If you are on a simulator, fine. But why put in the extra effort when it won't end up mattering? The chances are so slight that it doesn't affect "win chance" whatsoever. It's extremely situational that your Scizor lives with 1 HP because you put in 4 extra HP EVs that ends up sweeping with CB Bullet Punch that ends up winning you the game which you would have lost otherwise because your other Pokemon was a Farfetch'd.Scizor was a bad example because of the nature of its HP, but my point still stands. It won't help. Is it really that much more difficult to beat 2 Audinos (each give +2 HP evs) before starting the regular EV training? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnSlaUghT Posted April 24, 2011 Report Share Posted April 24, 2011 One time in how many attacks? A few thousand? If you are on a simulator, fine. But why put in the extra effort when it won't end up mattering? The chances are so slight that it doesn't affect "win chance" whatsoever. It's extremely situational that your Scizor lives with 1 HP because you put in 4 extra HP EVs that ends up sweeping with CB Bullet Punch that ends up winning you the game which you would have lost otherwise because your other Pokemon was a Farfetch'd. Scizor was a bad example because of the nature of its HP, but my point still stands. It won't help. 10 EVS (Pokerus, power item, 1 EV) x 25 = 250Remove Power item = 2 250 + 2 = 252, Its not that hard it to EV to 252 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Force_Flex Posted April 24, 2011 Report Share Posted April 24, 2011 10 EVS (Pokerus, power item, 1 EV) x 25 = 250Remove Power item = 2 250 + 2 = 252, Its not that hard it to EV to 252Not to mention that vitamins give 10 EVs as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Rai Posted April 24, 2011 Report Share Posted April 24, 2011 I'm really pissed off what they did with the berries. I can't use Unburden Drifblim Peteya sweeper without Dream World. Best alternative then is: Drifblim@Ghost GemAbility: Unburden252 Sp. Atk / 128 HP / 124 SpdTimid Nature [ +Spd / -Atk ] - Shadow Ball- Psychic / Thunderbolt- Thunder Wave- Calm Mind / Thunderbolt Trust me, one of the best Unburden sweepers out there. 498 Spd after Unburden with Ghost Gem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xazeon Posted April 24, 2011 Report Share Posted April 24, 2011 [spoiler=My first team for Pokemon Online. Don't judge me too much ._.] Swampert (M) @ LeftoversTrait: TorrentEVs: 252 Atk / 252 SAtk / 4 SDefRelaxed Nature (+Def, -Spd)- Stealth Rock- Roar- Ice Beam- Earthquake Metagross @ Life OrbTrait: Clear BodyEVs: 252 Atk / 124 SAtk / 132 SpdNaughty Nature (+Atk, -SDef)- Meteor Mash- Earthquake- Shadow Ball- Grass Knot Latias (F) @ Life OrbTrait: LevitateEVs: 252 SAtk / 4 SDef / 252 SpdTimid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)- Draco Meteor- Thunderbolt- Surf- Recover Gyarados (M) @ Life OrbTrait: IntimidateEVs: 248 HP / 252 Def / 8 SDefImpish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)- Dragon Dance- Taunt- Waterfall- Earthquake Scizor (M) @ Choice BandTrait: SwarmEVs: 248 HP / 252 Atk / 8 SpdAdamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)- Bullet Punch- Pursuit- U-turn- Superpower Chandelure (M) @ LeftoversTrait: Flash FireEVs: 4 Atk / 252 SAtk / 252 SpdTimid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)- Substitute- Calm Mind- Flamethrower- Shadow Ball Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTurtleOnceCalledGod Posted April 25, 2011 Report Share Posted April 25, 2011 I have a question: Do stat changes get removed when a Pokemon switches out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tentacruel Posted April 25, 2011 Report Share Posted April 25, 2011 I have a question: Do stat changes get removed when a Pokemon switches out?Yes, unless you use Baton Pass in which case they are passed to the Pokemon you switch to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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