Saturn of Elemia Posted May 7, 2009 Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 Salamance is a good candidate. It gets a heck of a lot of Attack (I believe that it can get more than Garchomp with the right EVs) and it's also quite fast. It can also learn Outrage in Platinum (from one of the lovely Move Tutors). Its movepool is also pretty good. It's also one of the better OU Pokemon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Posted May 7, 2009 Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 Saturn, do you play competitively? @Emo: You're team idea is stupid; make a real one. If you're desperate here are candidates without including Ubers. Dragon: Salamence, Flygon, Kingdra, Dragonite, Latias. Dark: TTar, Weavile, Absol, Sharpedo, Cacturne, Drapion, Honchkrow, Crawdaunt, Umbreon, Spiritomb, Shiftry, Houndoom. Anything else isn't worth mentioning. If you desperately want a Dark/Dragon theme then use 2 of 1 and 1 of the other, then have Pokes to cover your weakneses this will quenche your Dark/Dragon lust while still making an effective team. For example TTar Spiritomb and Flygon would work well with the right back up from other Pokes like Vaporeon and Zapdos. Bear in mind battles aren't all about speed and attacking first. If you've got something slow bulky that hits like a sledge hammer it's worth it. Slower Pokes like Spiritomb can also effectively cripple sweepers with moves like Will-O-Wisp making them harmless to it's self and other buly Pkemon like Vaporeon Zapdos or TTar including many more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted May 8, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 8, 2009 Soul Silver and Heart Gold. Those are the names of the two new pokemon games to come out this fall (in Japan). Right now that is all we have but, I say, in about 2 months we will know a lot. I for one can't wait to get these. Also since it's coming out this fall in Japan we (in the US) should get it some time in the spring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Posted May 8, 2009 Report Share Posted May 8, 2009 Finally G/S remakes, so many people raved about these. Easy access to the super cool Dog/cat Pokemon ^^ (I don't know the official lable for them) I already have a Suicune but it's not a legitamate one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Emo~ Posted May 8, 2009 Report Share Posted May 8, 2009 Never got those games. I think I got crystal when I was 9 but I dunno. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keera Posted May 9, 2009 Report Share Posted May 9, 2009 I have Crystal, but I can't play it anymore 'cause my GBA broke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zexaeon Posted May 9, 2009 Report Share Posted May 9, 2009 @Felix: I believe they're called Legendary Beasts by most people. ^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tekken Ham Posted May 9, 2009 Report Share Posted May 9, 2009 Should I run Superpower or Focus Punch on a Banded Azumarril? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keera Posted May 9, 2009 Report Share Posted May 9, 2009 My parents said they would get me Platinum, but when they went out to get it, they instead got me Silent Hill 3. It isn't bad, but I already had it for GOD'S sake. EDIT: Nevermind. They went back and got it for me. YAY! <3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Posted May 10, 2009 Report Share Posted May 10, 2009 Should I run Superpower or Focus Punch on a Banded Azumarril? Good question, probably Super Power. Choice Pokes normaly switch out after their first move so ATK/DEF decrease become negligable unless you get Pursuited on your way out. Focus Punch is too unreliable on something slow like Azumarill unless you have a Sub which is unlikely on CB sets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Emo~ Posted May 10, 2009 Report Share Posted May 10, 2009 I need help with a competitive dragon team. Any suggestions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Posted May 10, 2009 Report Share Posted May 10, 2009 Competitive type teams don't work, this isnt a Deck we're talking about:/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Emo~ Posted May 10, 2009 Report Share Posted May 10, 2009 What about a speed team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Posted May 10, 2009 Report Share Posted May 10, 2009 No, there's no such thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Emo~ Posted May 10, 2009 Report Share Posted May 10, 2009 Nvm. I just wanna for fun dragon team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Posted May 10, 2009 Report Share Posted May 10, 2009 Make a mono-type team then, but it won't be competitive. 5 Dragons, 1 of something else; that's how mono type teams work. No Ubers though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Emo~ Posted May 10, 2009 Report Share Posted May 10, 2009 I don't know what dragons to include. Also, can I use Aerodactyl for the other? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Posted May 10, 2009 Report Share Posted May 10, 2009 No it won't work like that. Latias, Salamence, Kingdra, Flygon, Altaria and Empoleon would work. Latias and Altaria are walls while Empoleon stops the weaknesses to your team especially the big gaping whole for Ice moves. Flygon, Kingdra and Salamence are your offensive front. If you want help with move sets and EVs I'll do that too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Emo~ Posted May 10, 2009 Report Share Posted May 10, 2009 please do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Ursus Posted May 11, 2009 Report Share Posted May 11, 2009 Sorry for interrupting, but please post as though this doesn't exist, but please notice it. ;) PBR FC's? Mine's 3824-4335-0857 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madsen Posted May 15, 2009 Report Share Posted May 15, 2009 D:So, yesterday I level'd up mah belowed Luxray.But, now I found out it didn't save correctly.Please tell me that Luxray can learn Ice fang without breeding.It did yesterday=/AlsoBUMP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Posted May 15, 2009 Report Share Posted May 15, 2009 No, you need to breed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madsen Posted May 16, 2009 Report Share Posted May 16, 2009 Then I am thinking of replacing Ice Fang with Hidden Power? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Posted May 16, 2009 Report Share Posted May 16, 2009 Stupid idea. You won't have the control to get it to be what you want and its a Special Move so it's Power will be inadiquate (spelling?). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted May 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 16, 2009 On Smogon people do these things called war stories where the tell a story of one of the better battles, and this is on of mine. It happened some time ago, and I did this all from memory so things aren't perfect, but thanks to the way the battle went it doesn't really matter. Leftovers and Sandstorm damage will be removed from the percents. My comments are in Red[spoiler=War Story]My team My opponent's team will be at the end. I send out GyaradosOpponent sends out Meta Meta leads are common so I figure Stealth Rock will come up first then he’ll go boom. I don’t DD because of this and just go for the Earthquake Gyarados used EarthquakeMetagross took 100% Super Effective, Critical Hit Metagross Fainted. 6-5 MeGyarados: 100% That really isn’t how I would want to start a match, but I’ll take it. So lets see what comes in. Opponent switched in Gyarados Gyarados ditto. I know I’ll lose since I don’t run Stone Edge, so I go to Rotom knowing he’ll Dance. I withdraw GyaradosI switch in Rotom HGyarados used Dragon DanceGyarados’ speed and attack increased Rotom: 100%Gyarados: 100% (+1 ATK, +1 SPE) I know I can take a DD back Waterfall so I stay in and use Thunderbolt Gyarados used WaterfallRotom took 67% damageRotom used ThunderboltGyarados took 100% damageIt’s Super EffectiveGyarados Fainted 6-4 MeRotom: 33% That went as predicted so. His next pokemon is... Opponent switched in Scizor I can’t use Overheat thanks to my item (Scarf), so I go back to Gyarados knowing that even Scizor’s best won’t do much to him. Scizor used PursuitRotom took 33% damageIt’s Super EffectRotom Fainted 5-4 MeScizor: 100% I should have seen that coming. Still I continue with my switch I switched in Gyarados As I said I know Scizor can’t do much, so I predict the switch. And Dance Opponent switched in LatiasGyarados used Dragon DanceGyarados’ speed and attack increased Gyarados: 100% (+1 ATK, +1 Speed)Latias: 100% I know that I should be faster now and Ice Fang should put a huge dent into it. So that’s my plan of action Latias used ThundboltGyarados took 100% damageIt’s super effectiveGyarados fainted 4-4 TieLatias: 100% This just goes to show that things don’t always go as you think they will. Since he out sped me must be scarfed. I go to my Mamoswine knowing he can’t hit damage me. I switched in Mamoswine Here I decide to take a gamble. I know he predicts an Ice attack. I also know that his Scizor would make a good switch to take that hit, so I take a risk and go for EQ Opponent switched out LatiasOpponent switched in HeatranMamoswine used Earthquake Heatran took 100% damageIt’s super effective.Heatran fainted. 4-3 MeMamoswine: 100% That went very well. Still being Choiced to EQ is bad and he’ll likely go to a pokemon that is immune to it Opponent switched in Scizor So, it’s not Latias. Still Bullet Punch will OHKO me so I go to Empoleon to take the it. I switched out MamoswineI switched in EmpoleonScizor used Bullet Punch.Empoleon took 12% damageIt’s not very effect. Scizor: 100%Empoleon: 88% All went as I thought it would. Right now I could set up Stealth Rocks, but with 3 pokemon left it won’t be that helpful. I could Surf and do a fair amount, but I think he’ll go to Latias to take the Surf so I go with Ice Beam. Opponent switched out ScizorOpponent switched in SalamenceEmpoleon used Ice BeamSalamence took 100% damageIt’s Super effectiveSalamence fainted 4-2 MeEmpoleon: 94% Just like with Heatran that went better then I could ever hope for. So with my opponent down to his last two pokemon the game is just about mine. Still Scizor can kill my team easily so I can’t sit comfortably Opponent switched in Scizor I saw that coming. Odds are Scizor is Banded and has Super Power and since I don’t think any of my pokemon can take that hit I let Empoleon go down Scizor use SuperpowerEmpoleon took 100% damageIt’s super effectEmpoleon fainted.Scizor’s Attack FellScizor’s Defence Fell 3-2 MeScizor: 100% That was a needed sacrifice because now things are just about mine. So know I need to pick who to go to. T-Tar and Mamoswine would both be hit very hard by Superpower even with the drop in power so I go to my last choice, Heracross I switched in Heracross Close Combat should kill Scizor and Latias running a sweeper set odds are it isn't defensive so even with the half damage CC will hit hard so I go with that Opponent switch out ScizorOpponent switch in LatiasHeracross used Close CombatLatias took 40% damageHeracross’s Defence FellHeracross’ Sp Def Fell. Heracross: 100%Latias: 60% Heracross will likely be the pokemon that will net me the win since the Bullet Punch shouldn’t OHKO me. So I go to Tyranitar I switched out HeracrossI switched in TyranitarLatias used Dragon PulseTyranitar took 23% damage Tyranitar: 83%Latias: 60% Perfect. Taking 23% means he won’t destroy my sub so that will be my next move Latias used Dragon PulseTyranitar took 23% damageTyranitar used SubstituteTyranitar set up a substituteTyranitar lost 25% of it’s HP. Tyranitar: 41% (Hiding behind a sub)Latias: 60% With the sub up and Latias unable to destroy it in a turn the game is just about mine Latias used Dragon PulseThe substitute took damageTyranitar used CrunchLatias took 60% damageIt’s super effectLatias fainted Tyranitar: 47%3-1 Me After that he left the game giving me the win. Odds are I still would have won. This is what I think would have happened. Scizor would have used Bullet Punch which only would have destroy the sub. I’ll then hit him with EQ. That should deal enough damage to put him in range of dying to Close Combat. After that Tyranitar would faint thanks to Bullet Punch going first. My switch would have been to Heracross who would not die from the Bullet Punch, it would do about 70% if memory serves, but Close Combat would have killed him. Even if he had a bit of HP left Mamoswine would have finished with Ice Shard. Really wish my opponent didn’t run at the end, but what ever.This was my opponent's teamIt just hit me that he was using a team of the most over used pokemon in the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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