~ P O L A R I S ~ Posted February 11, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2009 I agree The following cards are no longer Limited - Advanced Ritual Art. Crush Card Virus. Gold Sarcophagus. Limiter Removal. Megamorph. Monster Gate. Monster Reborn. Mystical Space Typhoon. Ojama Trio. Overload Fusion. Raiza the Storm Monarch. Reasoning. Treeborn Frog. Ultimate Offering. United We Stand. Question: Were you high when you made this list? *facepalmgasm* They're no longer Limited because they're banned. No' date=' not really. Crab Helmet already did a much better job than I would've.[/quote'] Then you've outlived your usefulness here. Cyal8tr, bai nao. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santi :D Posted February 11, 2009 Report Share Posted February 11, 2009 Lol i got a problem with my eyes then. This list is still :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~ P O L A R I S ~ Posted February 11, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2009 Lol i got a problem with my eyes then. This list is still :( Logic is good. No logic is bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted February 11, 2009 Report Share Posted February 11, 2009 BRIONAC' date=' DRAGON Of THE ICE BOUNDARY [b']Dark Armed Dragon.[/b]Need to discard cards. Cards go back to hand, not destroyed.Same sorta idea though, take out all opp's cards, hit them for damage. Like Darklord Zerato, his usual use is to finish the game, only he's way easier to Summon, it's totally banworthy bra. So Smashing + Random Monster = DAD. It is the same idea. Take out your opponents monster and attack. CANNON SOLDIER OTKs CATAPULT TURTLE OTKsDOOMKAISER DRAGON/ASSAULT MODE OTKsDRAGON'S MIRROR OTKs MASS DRIVER OTKsMORPHTRONIC BOARDON OTKsOJAMA TRIO OTKsI have 3 BEWD on the field. OTK. Ban BEWD. I see your point' date=' but 3 BEWDs is like 3 Limited cards which all need 2-Tribs or to be Special Summoned by Gate/Reasoning, and you need opp to have clear field on top of that. The ones I listed OTK fairly easily. [/b']On your list 4 are stopped by banning other, banworthy, cards. One works the same as Lighting Vortex. One is slow to summon. And one is just like the 3x BEWD things.DARK STRIKE FIGHTER (Dark Dive Bomber) Think about it. >_>OTK' date=' I know. But being level 7 makes it a pain o get out and it only OTK if you have enough field presence and if that is the case, odds are you can win without it.[/quote']It has several OTKs, and it's actually pretty easy to get out with its supporting Tuner, Black Salvo.Side from one which is fixed by banning another card none of those OTKs is a problem.DEDICATION THROUGH LIGHT AND DARKNESS Doesn't contribute to game whatsoever.Ban Larvae Moth and Guardian ElmaI already explained this. Elma and Moth have uses' date=' although bad. Elma can be Set and Turbo'd, Moth can be painfully Summoned, used in the Moth evolution chain, and Turbo'd. They're bad uses, but they're uses, Dedication has no uses.[/b'] Being useless doesn't mean a card should be banned.ELEMENTAL HERO STRATOS Think about it. >_>This cards only crime is that it interacts with itself improperly' date=' so it should go to 1, not 0.[/quote']It's a +1 with legs at the very least. Woodsman is a plus 1 with legs. So is Breaker. So are the GadgetsEMERGENCY TELEPORT Free Tuner Special Summon from Deck' date=' too much you can do there.[/b']The worse this can do is net a Stardust. That isn't that bad since it isn't to hard to get around him. Just because you get a Tuner from the Deck doesn't mean your forced to Tune. It's a free monster from the Deck which can be used however you'd like to, and it's a Quick-Play on top of that. Their is no problem with getting an easy monster from the deck. Also being a quick play doesn't make a difference.REINFORCEMENT OF THE ARMY Think about it. >_>Gets you a level 4 Warrior. Please tell me the problem.Level 4 or lower' date=' and Warrior is the most dominant type in the game. Charge and Proving Ground are ok as they're Archetype specific, but "any LV4 or lower Warrior" is too much.[/b']How does getting the monster create a problem?RESCUE CAT Like Teleport' date=' but worse.[/b']Either this are Airbellumm goes. This gives more to the game then Airbellum so he goes, this stays.What does it give to the game exactly?Read the card.STARDUST DRAGON/ASSAULT MODE Opponent basically loses if you get this out.1) Now' date=' the opponent doesn't loss.2) Even if that was true, if you can get this out you should win.[/quote']No, your opp should still have a chance, much like with OTKs. And the opponent has no way of getting rid of this but by battle, and even if they do, you get a Stardust back. The whole point of an OTK is so your opponent will loss right then and their. Also their is another, very simple way to get rid of it. It is called remove it from play. Side from that it is a pain in the ass to summon.TRAGOEDIA Think about it. >_>His control effect is a pain to use since both you and your opponent need to have the same level monster' date=' and his second effect makes him good for synchros. I don't see a problem.[/quote']Gorz + Brain Control + "good for synchros" goes too far.Nothing like Gorz. His control effect is a pain to use since both you and your opponent need to have the same level monster (I just wrote this), being good for synchros doesn't make him bad for the game. HONEST Refer to notesOVERLOAD FUSION Refer to notesTIME WIZARD Refer to notesI'll take it your checking to see why they are their? No' date=' there's a little "Notes: Read Before Attacking Decisions" spoiler at the end of the first post which you should've read as you're attacking my decisions. =P[/b']Honest is the same as Shrink.Ban Overdragon If you hate luck your playing the wrong game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santi :D Posted February 11, 2009 Report Share Posted February 11, 2009 Right now i can't write, my logic doesn't want to conflict with your OTK logic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zelda_tp_fan Posted February 11, 2009 Report Share Posted February 11, 2009 Since your banning dedication through light and darkness do to it being absolutely pointless, Why not ban Thousand eyes idol as well? It too is absolutely pointless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~ P O L A R I S ~ Posted February 11, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2009 Honest is the same as Shrink. You're being special' date=' please stop being special. Ban Overdragon Did that. If you hate luck your playing the wrong game. Less luck-dependance = more skill-dependance = a good thing.Since your banning dedication through light and darkness do to it being absolutely pointless' date=' Why not ban Thousand eyes idol as well? It too is absolutely pointless[/quote'] Thousand-Eyes Idol is a Recurring Nightmare target, a Spellcaster, and a DARK monster with low stats, meaning a Dark Explosion, Mystic Tomato, Magical Dimension, Circle, and Allure Target. It is not pointless. Dedication is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zelda_tp_fan Posted February 11, 2009 Report Share Posted February 11, 2009 Since your banning dedication through light and darkness do to it being absolutely pointless' date=' Why not ban Thousand eyes idol as well? It too is absolutely pointless[/quote'] Thousand-Eyes Idol is a Recurring Nightmare target, a Spellcaster, and a DARK monster, meaning a Dark Explosion, Magical Dimension, Circle, and Allure Target. It is not pointless. Dedication is. If I'm not mistaking, I can use dedication has discard fodder for summon priest By your logic, dedication serves a point now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~ P O L A R I S ~ Posted February 11, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2009 Since your banning dedication through light and darkness do to it being absolutely pointless' date=' Why not ban Thousand eyes idol as well? It too is absolutely pointless[/quote'] Thousand-Eyes Idol is a Recurring Nightmare target, a Spellcaster, and a DARK monster, meaning a Dark Explosion, Magical Dimension, Circle, and Allure Target. It is not pointless. Dedication is. If I'm not mistaking, I can use dedication has discard fodder for summon priest By your logic, dedication serves a point now There are 1434 Spell Cards. There's 1 Vanilla DARK Spellcaster with 0 ATK and DEF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zelda_tp_fan Posted February 11, 2009 Report Share Posted February 11, 2009 Since your banning dedication through light and darkness do to it being absolutely pointless' date=' Why not ban Thousand eyes idol as well? It too is absolutely pointless[/quote'] Thousand-Eyes Idol is a Recurring Nightmare target, a Spellcaster, and a DARK monster, meaning a Dark Explosion, Magical Dimension, Circle, and Allure Target. It is not pointless. Dedication is. If I'm not mistaking, I can use dedication has discard fodder for summon priest By your logic, dedication serves a point now There are 1434 Spell Cards. There's 1 Vanilla DARK Spellcaster with 0 ATK and DEF. Thats nice... ... your point is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted February 11, 2009 Report Share Posted February 11, 2009 Honest is the same as Shrink.You're being special' date=' please stop being special. [/quote']How am I "being special"? Is it because you already countered this? I never saw that so how should I know you already did.Honest is a helluvalot more than Shrink. Shrink isn't a guaranteed destruction' date=' Shrink can't be Summoned, Shrink can't be surprise Beckoning'd, Shrink isn't from hand, and lacks the element of surprise as well as the fact that it can be MST'd/dusted the turn it's set.[/quote']It almost always is. Why would you summon Honest? Since your opponent doesn't know what is in your hand to begin with they are taking a risk when they attack regardless. Honest is forced to stay in the hand to be of any use. Shrink can be destroyed before it goes off, but Honest needs you to have a face-up light monster, to use. NOt only that but to destroy your opponents monste yours needs to be in attack mode. Ban Overdragon Did that. Again. Didn't know. If you hate luck your playing the wrong game. Less luck-dependance = more skill-dependance = a good thing.Banning like 5 luck-dependant cards won't make a difference. The only time I would use Time Wizards effect is if I needed it. If this was the case I would be lossing. This means that even if his effect works my opponent will only loss 500(?) life points and during their next turn could very easily destroy my Time Wizard since his attack is so low. Also if you hate luck, why is Snipe still around? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~ P O L A R I S ~ Posted February 11, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2009 Time Wizard can be ditched after you nuke. They may be only 4 luck-dependent cards but they're VERY luck-dependent and can gouge you or your opponent's face off entirely based on whoever happens to be luckier, this's bad for the game. As for Snipe, good point. Banned. Since your banning dedication through light and darkness do to it being absolutely pointless' date=' Why not ban Thousand eyes idol as well? It too is absolutely pointless[/quote'] Thousand-Eyes Idol is a Recurring Nightmare target, a Spellcaster, and a DARK monster, meaning a Dark Explosion, Magical Dimension, Circle, and Allure Target. It is not pointless. Dedication is. If I'm not mistaking, I can use dedication has discard fodder for summon priest By your logic, dedication serves a point now There are 1434 Spell Cards. There's 1 Vanilla DARK Spellcaster with 0 ATK and DEF. Thats nice... ... your point is? Think about it. xD jk, Idol serves as fodder for way more, and is the only one which covers that range of targetors, whereas Dedication covers 1 target category, which 1433 other cards do, and also have effects on top of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zelda_tp_fan Posted February 11, 2009 Report Share Posted February 11, 2009 Gorz is still listed twice (once on forbidden, and once on limited ) you should probably fix that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~ P O L A R I S ~ Posted February 11, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2009 Gorz is still listed twice (once on forbidden' date=' and once on limited ) you should probably fix that[/quote'] Fixed, thanks. ^_^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted February 11, 2009 Report Share Posted February 11, 2009 Time Wizard can be ditched after you nuke. They may be only 4 luck-dependent cards but they're VERY luck-dependent and can gouge you or your opponent's face off entirely based on whoever happens to be luckier' date=' this's bad for the game. As for Snipe, good point. Banned.[/quote']How can you ditch it after you get the monster wipe (it isn't anuke). As I said the only time you would use it is if your lossing and if this is the case you would normally normal summon it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~ P O L A R I S ~ Posted February 11, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2009 How can you ditch it after you get the monster wipe (it isn't anuke). As I said the only time you would use it is if your lossing and if this is the case you would normally normal summon it. Card effects, Tribute Summons, Synchro Summons, Ritual Summons, and in Time Wizard's case (although it's bad) Thousand Dragon, if you want to ditch it that badly. As for using it, you could search it out, and if you only have 1 or 2 monsters, you could just use its effect and hope to get lucky. EDIT: W00t, 3rd page after 3 hours. xD What is it about Lists that attract posts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zelda_tp_fan Posted February 11, 2009 Report Share Posted February 11, 2009 Think about it. xD jk' date=' Idol serves as fodder for way more, and is the only one which covers that range of targetors, whereas Dedication covers 1 target category, which 1433 other cards do, and also have effects on top of that.[/quote'] So? also, I could discard dedication for other cards like Lightning vortex, if I wanted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~ P O L A R I S ~ Posted February 11, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2009 Think about it. xD jk' date=' Idol serves as fodder for way more, and is the only one which covers that range of targetors, whereas Dedication covers 1 target category, which 1433 other cards do, and also have effects on top of that.[/quote'] So? also, I could discard dedication for other cards like Lightning vortex, if I wanted. Using a card who's sole use is to be used as discard fodder for a certain card when 1433 other cards can do it and use their own effects, then that card is pointless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zelda_tp_fan Posted February 11, 2009 Report Share Posted February 11, 2009 Think about it. xD jk' date=' Idol serves as fodder for way more, and is the only one which covers that range of targetors, whereas Dedication covers 1 target category, which 1433 other cards do, and also have effects on top of that.[/quote'] So? also, I could discard dedication for other cards like Lightning vortex, if I wanted. Using a card who's sole use is to be used as discard fodder for a certain card when 1433 other cards can do it and use their own effects, then that card is pointless. The same could be said about thousand eyes idol Why would you use it for Recurring Nightmare, Dark Explosion, Magical Dimension, Circle, and Allure? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~ P O L A R I S ~ Posted February 12, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2009 Because it's the only one which can be targeted/used as fodder for all of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted February 12, 2009 Report Share Posted February 12, 2009 How can you ditch it after you get the monster wipe (it isn't anuke). As I said the only time you would use it is if your lossing and if this is the case you would normally normal summon it. Card effects' date=' Tribute Summons, Synchro Summons, Ritual Summons, and in Time Wizard's case (although it's bad) Thousand Dragon, if you want to ditch it that badly. As for using it, you could search it out, and if you only have 1 or 2 monsters, you could just use its effect and hope to get lucky. EDIT: W00t, 3rd page after 3 hours. xD What is it about Lists that attract posts?[/quote']Again we are working under the assumption that you would only use Wizard's effect if you are lossing. If this is the case he would be your only monster so you wouldn't want to destroy him since he still is a wall between you and your opponent's monsters.You likely wouldn't be able to use him as a tribute since you normal summoned him to get him out, same goes for Synchros. The other two optionare just bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zelda_tp_fan Posted February 12, 2009 Report Share Posted February 12, 2009 Because it's the only one which can be targeted/used as fodder for all of them. So? Dedication is the only spell card that's called "dedication through light and darkness" that I could use with lightning vortex, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~ P O L A R I S ~ Posted February 12, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2009 How can you ditch it after you get the monster wipe (it isn't anuke). As I said the only time you would use it is if your lossing and if this is the case you would normally normal summon it. Card effects' date=' Tribute Summons, Synchro Summons, Ritual Summons, and in Time Wizard's case (although it's bad) Thousand Dragon, if you want to ditch it that badly. As for using it, you could search it out, and if you only have 1 or 2 monsters, you could just use its effect and hope to get lucky. EDIT: W00t, 3rd page after 3 hours. xD What is it about Lists that attract posts?[/quote']Again we are working under the assumption that you would only use Wizard's effect if you are lossing. If this is the case he would be your only monster so you wouldn't want to destroy him since he still is a wall between you and your opponent's monsters.You likely wouldn't be able to use him as a tribute since you normal summoned him to get him out, same goes for Synchros. The other two optionare just bad. Oh right, I forgot the only way one could possibly be losing would be by controlling only Time Wizard. You could also use it if you were winning by nuking and then swarming down a few monsters and beating their face. Either way, field nuking is banworthy. Luck-dependence is bad for the game. Time Wizard is banworthy and bad for the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenzoTheHarpist Posted February 12, 2009 Report Share Posted February 12, 2009 Why have you banned Dedication Through Light and Darkness, but left the following unbanned? Gryphon's WingWhite HoleAnti-Raigeki Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~ P O L A R I S ~ Posted February 12, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2009 Why have you banned Dedication Through Light and Darkness' date=' but left the following unbanned? Gryphon's WingWhite HoleAnti-Raigeki[/quote'] Because I hadn't thought of those at the time. Thanks, banned. =P Maybe NOW one of you noobs will mention Trad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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