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Guest Delinquent Girl NiAtSoFi

Until season 2, 5d's was great for it's pace in story-telling. The 2nd half of GX was also great. The original YGO's comic book was far better than the cartoon adaption which sucked because of the bad filler.

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Well Pharaoh gave Chronos an escape route' date=' otherwise he would have been caught, he did get caught eventually if I remember right.

 

Dueling solves all evils remember that, if they didn't duel and it was dangerous the 5Ds cast wouldn't have made it to D-Wheels or D-Boards.

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Well yeah, Dueling in dangerous situations is a part of the plot, true. But if you know you won't win for any reason (or its most likely you won't and your not the main character), common sense says don't say YES to a duel..duh -.-'

MANGA BOOK. ANIME. Get out now.

 

S2 of 5Ds was great' date=' apart from how long it took for characters to find the towers.

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That's not becoming of a mod to be harsh on newbies like that. Just because he doesn't know what they are doesn't make him any less of a fan. So what if he doesn't know what Japanese anime and cartoons are called? Just correct him politely, jeez. Everyone was a newbie once. Even you.

 

Forgive Yin newbie, try to remember the terms though, as you don't want to look like a newb forever =p

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In any case, onto a new topic:

The flaws of each of the three. Shall we?

DM: The rules changed too often and the duels would get boring. Friendship was talked about a bit too much..to the point of cheesiness.

GX: Two words: Character development. The second thing is, I understand season 2 was based on a scrapped idea for a movie, but that was no excuse to drag it out on and on and add that much filler. It was annoying. I pretty much hated the Society of Light with a passion by the last quarter of the series and just wanted it to END already.

5Ds: Haven't seen enough to know yet. I've been watching bits of DM that I was interested in and watching Season 4 of GX (I still like GX most oddly enough ....so far)

 

EDIT: Okay so I see his post count was higher than most newbs..meh. Just ignore it if it annoys you Yin. No need to be mean about it.

 

 

and to lighten up the moment:

 

Drugs are bad mmmkay? ;)

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I was having one of those moments trying to get everything done to get off for 10:45 for Remembrance Sunday. And I'd seen the same mistake twice. SHE meant the newbie

 

I think the general rules revolve around who and when you're dueling. If its considered too early in the plot, they're developing you (or another character) or they're planning a new deck you will lose and probably dramatically however you will beat the character you lost too within 10-20 episodes. If you're dueling someone more main 99% of the time you will lose, unless the first rule is in force.

 

(Notable Examples - Edo Vs Judai, first (real) match Judai lost, went missing and came back with Neo Spacians and won. Kiryu Vs Yusei first round Kiryu won nearly killing Yusei in the process, but after regaining himself he defeated Kiryu after Kiryu found that Yusei had tried to stop him being arrested for assaulting a security officer (poss. murder). Duel was used to develop the why the group had gotten where they were and previous relationship (Team Satisfaction) )

 

DM

With DM the flaws it has was being forced into having fillers, because it was put out too fast for the manga. I didn't really enjoy the Doma/Waking The Dragons filler that much especially given they tried to throw Dartz into seeing what happened between Thief Bakura's Diabound and Atemu's Osiris.

 

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DM was finding its feet as a game so I didn't mind it being a bit all over at the beginning. The friendship talks sound from what I've seen of the subbed a dubbed idea as usual....

 

GX

My main issue was the Tournament in Season 2 being sidelined for everything, we were all made to believe it was something important, then the final ended up Manjoume (who had lost as White Thunder so was out) and Rei (who wasn't probably invited). The other problem I had was the addition of characters, that contradicted earlier plots( like Johan at the NA, apparently he was there whilst Manjoume defeated his way to be King there. Like the addition of Fujiwara when they could of mentioned him earlier and developed Fubuki a little more based on that.) Johan annoyed me no end.

 

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They didn't seem to utilize duels to build up relationships or reveal information about relationships (something they've sorted in 5Ds). The only good out of Season 2 was the rebirth of Ryo as Hell Kaiser and them suddenly explaining Ryo and Fubuki were friends, but leaving many questions (They're like chalk and cheese)

 

5Ds

The only problem I have, is the sudden appearance of mass filler episodes with plot sprinkled in there somewhere, although I suppose the learning of the Accel Synchro by characters does count towards plot. And JACK does make a filler. Ruka needs more duels, she's yet to show why she was considered a duel prodigy back when she was 3, when her brother does better than her. Oh and how Crow wormed his way into main from nowhere, seems they didn't learn from GX about sudden character insertion.

 

In response to you answer:

Keep watching you'll enjoy.

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I was having one of those moments trying to get everything done to get off for 10:45 for Remembrance Sunday. And I'd seen the same mistake twice. SHE meant the newbie

 

I think the general rules revolve around who and when you're dueling. If its considered too early in the plot' date=' they're developing you (or another character) or they're planning a new deck you will lose and probably dramatically however you will beat the character you lost too within 10-20 episodes. If you're dueling someone more main 99% of the time you will lose, unless the first rule is in force.

 

(Notable Examples - [i']Edo Vs Judai[/i], first (real) match Judai lost, went missing and came back with Neo Spacians and won. Kiryu Vs Yusei first round Kiryu won nearly killing Yusei in the process, but after regaining himself he defeated Kiryu after Kiryu found that Yusei had tried to stop him being arrested for assaulting a security officer (poss. murder). Duel was used to develop the why the group had gotten where they were and previous relationship (Team Satisfaction) )

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Hmm..true. Still annoying.

DM

With DM the flaws it has was being forced into having fillers, because it was put out too fast for the manga. I didn't really enjoy the Doma/Waking The Dragons filler that much especially given they tried to throw Dartz into seeing what happened between Thief Bakura's Diabound and Atemu's Osiris.

 

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DM was finding its feet as a game so I didn't mind it being a bit all over at the beginning. The friendship talks sound from what I've seen of the subbed a dubbed idea as usual....

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I believe it lol

GX

My main issue was the Tournament in Season 2 being sidelined for everything, we were all made to believe it was something important, then the final ended up Manjoume (who had lost as White Thunder so was out) and Rei (who wasn't probably invited). The other problem I had was the addition of characters, that contradicted earlier plots( like Johan at the NA, apparently he was there whilst Manjoume defeated his way to be King there. Like the addition of Fujiwara when they could of mentioned him earlier and developed Fubuki a little more based on that.) Johan annoyed me no end.

 

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They didn't seem to utilize duels to build up relationships or reveal information about relationships (something they've sorted in 5Ds). The only good out of Season 2 was the rebirth of Ryo as Hell Kaiser and them suddenly explaining Ryo and Fubuki were friends, but leaving many questions (They're like chalk and cheese)

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Agreed. That was kinda stupid in the tournament. I did think it made no sense how Johan was suddenly just ADDED from North Acadamy. That bothered me alot, but I still liked the character. I agree with the addition contradicting comment btw.

 

And yeah, I liked both Ed and Ryo Kaiser alot. I always liked Zane, but felt he was starting to get stale, so when they made him Dark Zane, aka Hell Kaiser..I liked him ALOT more and found him awesome. Thing is though, most of Season 2 was just a flat waste of time. I loved Season 3 though, just felt it started to drag on about the time that Yubel came back as Johan. At that point I wanted Season 3 to end already and to move onto a new plotline. I didn't even care who Yubel was I just wanted her dead at that point. Seems every Season has that problem. Season 3 wasn't as bad though, as it wasn't until then that I was sick of the arc. As opposed to Season 2 where I got sick of it pretty early on. Let me put it this way: About the time that Chazz was the only person talking about Society of Light and hadn't yet recruited people, I was sick of Society of light. The more I saw it..the more I wanted that arc to end and/or it to focus more on the tournament. I ended up skipping to Season 3 and reading the plot outline at the part right after Pegasus let Crowler and Bonapart stay at Duel Acadamy and weren't fired. I read the plot outline and skipped to Season 3 at that part.

 

As for Season 3 with Yubel...yeah I still stand that about the Time Johan was possessed by her and was going to fight Ryo Kaiser..(i didn't finish the duel btw. I just read the plot outline and skipped to Season 4) I was sick of that arc. Keep in mind I switched from Dub to Sub about mid-way through Season 3. Glad I did but I'm NEVER watching Season 2 again (for the most part) either way. Season 1 was good. It didn't get stale. Season 2 was mostly stale. Season 3 didn't get stale until later into it. Now I'm watching Season 4, so lets see how things go lol.

5Ds

The only problem I have, is the sudden appearance of mass filler episodes with plot sprinkled in there somewhere, although I suppose the learning of the Accel Synchro by characters does count towards plot. And JACK does make a filler. Ruka needs more duels, she's yet to show why she was considered a duel prodigy back when she was 3, when her brother does better than her. Oh and how Crow wormed his way into main from nowhere, seems they didn't learn from GX about sudden character insertion.

 

In response to you answer:

Keep watching you'll enjoy.

I'll take your word for it lol I'll watch it (Well I already say 4 episodes or so but yeah, continue watching it I guess is the wording) after I finish Season 4 of GX

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I disliked Ryo when he first became Hell Kaiser (well and when he had the tantrum about not losing), up until he saved Sho from Doomdozer and helped Sho figure the action to take in regards to Judai. I liked that duel with Yubel Johan and Hell Kaiser (one of my fav duels), I agree after that it did get boring, they focussed too much on Johan.

 

He let them stay? They thought they were gonna be fired because Samejima had a go at them both, so hoped Pegasus would employ them.

 

S2 did have it moments, but for me they surrounded around the elder Tenjoin and the Marufuji siblings.

 

S4 was good I like how it developed the soon to graduate characters (I say that because it ignores Kenzan and Rei), by them getting closer to achieving their dreams, even if it times it was a rough road. For Fubuki and Fujiwara however they focused on the past.

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I disliked Ryo when he first became Hell Kaiser (well and when he had the tantrum about not losing)' date=' up until he saved Sho from Doomdozer and helped Sho figure the action to take in regards to Judai. I liked that duel with Yubel Johan and Hell Kaiser (one of my fav duels), I agree after that it did get boring, they focussed too much on Johan.

 

He let them stay? They thought they were gonna be fired because Samejima had a go at them both, so hoped Pegasus would employ them.

 

S2 did have it moments, but for me they surrounded around the elder Tenjoin and the Marufuji siblings.

S4 was good I like how it developed the soon to graduate characters (I say that because it ignores Kenzan and Rei), by them getting closer to achieving their dreams, even if it times it was a rough road. For Fubuki and Fujiwara however they focused on the past.

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It DID gives Kenzan and Rei some limelight with the Junior vs Senior Duels but yeah, I get your point. And yeah, you knew what I meant about Pegasus and Crowler/Bonapart =p (I swear his name makes me wanna say Bone-anyways I like Season 4 so far, though I'm thinking I may need a break from watching Yugioh, been watching too much at once and getting tired of it as a whole. But I'm not sure what else there is to do around here (my house I mean) @_@ maybe I'll give Fable Lost Chapters another go, never did finish it.

 

As for Season 3: I meant everything that had happened, it was old enough I quit watching the rest of Season 3 as a whole at that part. I DO agree that Judai obsessed over Johan alot. (Made you think he was gay almost LOL) and I really wish most of Season 2 (or well..anything in it involving Sartoris and the Society of Light..except Ed who I liked) hadn't happened -.-

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Marik was a lousy villain. He was just like a whiny teenager who wanted to avoid his daily chores but destroying the world. Dark Marik was just a crappy Dark Bakura.

 

Dartz, Noa (Kaiba + Marik), and Sieg all sucked. Pointless filler. Nuff said.

 

Yubel was a great villain. She really believed she did the right thing, instead of "I want to do evil for no real reason." She tortured Jaden throughout S3 out of a sick delusion of love, and taunted Adrian for killing the person he loved. It was deep, but not needlessly complex in storytelling like other anime.

 

Nightshroud reminded me of a Final Fantasy villain. He wants to throw humanity into some wierd world because "everybody has dark hearts." His deck made me think of a broken version of a FF final boss.

 

Rex Goodwin was clearly a villain, but I was still caught off guard in the season finale. He only appeared evil, yet appeared to be helpful. The first opening even shows him with an evil look. I was surprised to see Rudger die so early, because he was shown in the lead villain light. Even though Rex was kind of generic as a villain, I liked the plot-twist.

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Are we seeing the same Malik/Marik to you? Or have you missed everything he had to go through just be a gravekeeper? He suffered a hell of a lot becoming that, he watched Rishid/Odion suffer, and he just wanted to be normal and live among the other people, rather than be hidden away. He had plenty of reason to resent what he was forced to be. His Dark side was just an outlet for his pain and I rather liked his pure psychotic nature that knew no bounds, unlike Yami No Bakura who despite being a tiny part of Zork was very controlled in his actions.

 

Yubel was shown what love was by Judai, s/he became delluded by the act of being sent away, s/he associated that with real love. For someone supposed to help Judai control Haou (Dark Justice), she had a very funny way of going about it, but in the end Judai did control Dark Justice, although Haou was never really seen again.

 

When you say Nightshroud, I say you've missed a huge chunk of him. Fubuki wasn't the only Darkness, or rather his only host, Fujiwara hosted him well and was devastating with the evil one's help. The real Darkness could have seemed more savage, but assisted well in Fujiwara making Fubuki forget everyone (I don't get why Darkness then made him remember them, but I think it was a torture method to make Fubuki yield into joining him). Really the dub limits the full story

 

I could tell Rex was up something, why else would he help something from Satellite. (Even though JACK was bait) And he let the Arcadia movement operate completely without investigation even if they killed potential 'psychic warriors' and others. (I refer mainly to the cases of Toby (Misty's Brother) and Carly). He was only ever interested in using the arm and on purposely lost to his brother.

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Are we seeing the same Malik/Marik to you? Or have you missed everything he had to go through just be a gravekeeper? He suffered a hell of a lot becoming that' date=' he watched Rishid/Odion suffer, and he just wanted to be normal and live among the other people, rather than be hidden away. He had plenty of reason to resent what he was forced to be. His Dark side was just an outlet for his pain and I rather liked his pure psychotic nature that knew no bounds, unlike Yami No Bakura who despite being a tiny part of Zork was very controlled in his actions.

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RAWR..I guess whether I like it or not I'm going to have to finish Battle City even though I've read ABOUT it so many times its gotten old...because apparently I know little about Marik aside from plot outlines and Yugioh Abridged. -.-' (and the fact I started to watch Battle City, didn't and then saw little bits of it, etc.)

Yubel was shown what love was by Judai, s/he became delluded by the act of being sent away, s/he associated that with real love. For someone supposed to help Judai control Haou (Dark Justice), she had a very funny way of going about it, but in the end Judai did control Dark Justice, although Haou was never really seen again.

Houe is a representation of the dark side of Judai, thus we do see him again. As Judai. Everyone has a light and dark side to themself. The point was, he had sudddnely let his dark side take over, then after was too afraid to use it at all, thus making him half a Judai instead of one whole. Thus, in Season 4, he is finally whole. Though at first he's so used to fighting for his life, he has to LEARN what fun is all over again. (Great plot point I might add) I also agree with what you both said on Yubel. She was awesome. (I refuse to say she was a herm..where's the proof?) Season 3 may've been really stale by the time they truly showed her, but she was still cool.

When you say Nightshroud, I say you've missed a huge chunk of him. Fubuki wasn't the only Darkness, or rather his only host, Fujiwara hosted him well and was devastating with the evil one's help. The real Darkness could have seemed more savage, but assisted well in Fujiwara making Fubuki forget everyone (I don't get why Darkness then made him remember them, but I think it was a torture method to make Fubuki yield into joining him). Really the dub limits the full story

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No offense, but I'm siding with the other person. From what I've read about Nightshroud/Darkness, and what I've seen of him watching Season 4 so far..he really is very stupidly cliche and not much in terms of Villains..the darkness in everyones hearts..really effing original...-insert groan here-

I could tell Rex was up something, why else would he help something from Satellite. (Even though JACK was bait) And he let the Arcadia movement operate completely without investigation even if they killed potential 'psychic warriors' and others. (I refer mainly to the cases of Toby (Misty's Brother) and Carly). He was only ever interested in using the arm and on purposely lost to his brother.

RAWR the more you talk about 5D's the more I wanna watch it, but I'm still finishing Season 4 of GX..and now I'm starting to want to go back and watch the rest of Battle City and maybe Millinium World (MAYBE) (I've seen almost all of the first 7 volumes, and I actually in terms of the second series have only watched most of Duelist Kingdom (Okay so I skipped a few duels in that one) and the Keith controlled by Marik vs Yugi fight..everything else I've only seen bits of. OH and I saw Joey vs Kaiba to win third place...oh and the final Yugi vs Atem fight) Now I may have even MORE I need to watch. Curse it all! RAWR lol

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That is a point, but I meant in terms of showing himself as a 'separate' entity through Judai's eyes, usually we just see normal Judai's eyes and Yubels.

 

I enjoy Darkness' minions, I suppose Darkness himself was rather weak. Fujiwara although more of a last minute addition was rather interesting as someone who had let sorrow hide for so many years, and then misguidedly take it out on Fubuki. (I wonder if Ryo had seen the Darkness ritual Fujiwara would have targeted him instead)

 

5Ds is pretty awesome. Rua never fails to make me laugh or cry.

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Are we seeing the same Malik/Marik to you? Or have you missed everything he had to go through just be a gravekeeper? He suffered a hell of a lot becoming that' date=' he watched Rishid/Odion suffer, and he just wanted to be normal and live among the other people, rather than be hidden away. He had plenty of reason to resent what he was forced to be. His Dark side was just an outlet for his pain and I rather liked his pure psychotic nature that knew no bounds, unlike Yami No Bakura who despite being a tiny part of Zork was very controlled in his actions.

 

Yubel was shown what love was by Judai, s/he became delluded by the act of being sent away, s/he associated that with real love. For someone supposed to help Judai control Haou (Dark Justice), she had a very funny way of going about it, but in the end Judai did control Dark Justice, although Haou was never really seen again.

 

When you say Nightshroud, I say you've missed a huge chunk of him. Fubuki wasn't the only Darkness, or rather his only host, Fujiwara hosted him well and was devastating with the evil one's help. The real Darkness could have seemed more savage, but assisted well in Fujiwara making Fubuki forget everyone (I don't get why Darkness then made him remember them, but I think it was a torture method to make Fubuki yield into joining him). Really the dub limits the full story

 

I could tell Rex was up something, why else would he help something from Satellite. (Even though JACK was bait) And he let the Arcadia movement operate completely without investigation even if they killed potential 'psychic warriors' and others. (I refer mainly to the cases of Toby (Misty's Brother) and Carly). He was only ever interested in using the arm and on purposely lost to his brother.

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Regarding Marik, most of my complaints were fueled by the annoying ramblings of "why should I protect the tomb for nothing, etc" every episode of the first part of Battle City. Of course, I've only watched the Eng Dub of the first portion of BC (I watched the Japanese version of the finals for the most part.) Dark Marik was a little more interesting in the Manga (got it right!), with all the torture machine cards. I liked how he nearly pissed his pants when Joey survived Ra's destruction effect.

 

Yubel is still my fav villain. For S3, I only watched the Japanese version after Giese the Spirit Hunter, and I liked her seductive voice. Yubel's best moment was her duel with Adrian, where she displayed fear when Adrian nearly completed Exodia. It was nice seeing a villain in the dramatic position that the hero is usually in. Why she, a trading card, was launched into space never made sense. A strange plot device used with the Neo Spacians too but it fits into the plot. Kaiba must've lost his mind after the original series, with his interest in launching trading cards into space.

 

I was refering to Nightshroud himself. My opinion was based on the final battle with Jaden. I kept thinking about the final battle of every RPG game I ever played (a small number, FYI.)

 

Rex was clearly a villain from start to finish, but the way the story was written, it was still a surprise that he suddenly emerged as a super Signer/Dark Signer god. It was clever that he sort of screwed both sides over. I don't know. 5d's first season was fast-paced for me, which is why I liked it over the original. Not much to think about, just well-done CGI (never seen that in cel-based anime), soundtrack (as always), more thought in anime-exclusive card concepts, and presentation overall.

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Yubel was sent up on request of Judai's parents, after her reactions to anyone who defeated or upset Judai. She took her protector role too far.

 

Aw, you should see more about his minions to make a truer judgement on Darkness as an Entity. How he's willing to spread veins over Fubuki's skin to ensure a hold on the brunette, even though he was trying to teach Judai about Darkness. (Asuka blamed Judai for this, but was halted really when Fujiwara (Really Honest) turned up and tried to kill Fubuki for betraying his master (Fujiwara)). Fubuki does try to control Darkness, the last time he dueled wearing Darkness' mask (not as Darkness himself) he didn't yield even through Darkness' probing. Fujiwara was preyed on really by Darkness, Fujiwara may have thought he knew he was getting into but Darkness willingly shoved him aside when he was about to lose.

 

Actually I just remembered I had another complaint probably more aimed at all 3. When character duels are obviously set up for a character to win, for example Rua Vs Michel, when Michel's Spell - Imprisonment Mirror, allowing only Zombies and Machines to attack, it was obvious set up for Rua to win the duel since all Rua's monsters are Machines. I never did understand what the point of that episode was other than introducing pointless characters with cards that will never see the OCG.

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That is a point' date=' but I meant in terms of showing himself as a 'separate' entity through Judai's eyes, usually we just see normal Judai's eyes and Yubels.

 

I enjoy Darkness' minions, I suppose Darkness himself was rather weak. Fujiwara although more of a last minute addition was rather interesting as someone who had let sorrow hide for so many years, and then misguidedly take it out on Fubuki. (I wonder if Ryo had seen the Darkness ritual Fujiwara would have targeted him instead)

 

5Ds is pretty awesome. Rua never fails to make me laugh or cry.

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Of course we only see him through normal Judai eyes. Thats because he became a part of Normal Judai, he isn't seperate anymore. Judai balances his good and evil side. If we ever see Supreme King's Eye's again, it'll be because he gave into the darkness again, and I don't see that happening anytime soon lol

 

noes -covers ears- season 4 spoilerz

 

Rua? Question mark? Why do I keep getting reasons to wanna watch 5Ds @_@

 

and noes..more spoilers on the next two posts @_@,and here I wanted to take a break from actually watching Yugioh

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GX was actually my favorite... Unlike the other 2, it incorporated plenty of comedy. And at the beginning, the plot was actually good. They screwed up towards the end though (Actually Season 3 wasn't so bad either.) There was plenty of character depth, they were very well-designed. Also, the cards and duels weren't half bad. And I love the whole "Duel Academy" idea on a whole. But between YGO DM and YGO 5D's, YGO DM wins by a long shot. 5d's is just f***ed up. I mean, turbo duels? Really? Also, the plot isn't very good at all. The duels bored me, as did the characters. Synchros were an ok idea. YGO DM was good. The characters were good, sometimes the plot was good, sometimes bad. The duels didn't follow the rules at the beginning but they were interesting and they showed creativity.

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Rua is the eldest of twins, the weaker of the two in terms of dueling, but he makes up for it in sheer determination and loyalty to helping his little sister not get hurt, even if it means danger for himself.

 

Raven I can't help it, I just want to sell it.

 

GX did have more comic relief thanks to Fubuki and Chronos, disregarding it in S4. 5Ds does have comedy moments, mainly from Rua.

 

FJ how much of 5Ds have you seen? The whole series isn't about Riding duels, although admittedly with the cast now being more mobile, you may see less ground duels thanks to the introduction of D-Boards, and Aki taking her test to ride a D-Wheel.

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Rua is the eldest of twins' date=' the weaker of the two in terms of dueling, but he makes up for it in sheer determination and loyalty to helping his little sister not get hurt, even if it means danger for himself.

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And, he's really cute. And normally I don't consider 11-year old boys to be cute.

I just like how much he loves his sister, which makes him my second favourite character. I'm looking forward to cosplaying him. ^^

 

FJ how much of 5Ds have you seen? The whole series isn't about Riding duels' date=' although admittedly with the cast now being more mobile, you may see less ground duels thanks to the introduction of D-Boards, and Aki taking her test to ride a D-Wheel.

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Aki just had to learn how to ride a D-Wheel so that the fans could see her in leather.

 

But now serious, I think her riding duels will be important. Don't know when tough.

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Rua is the eldest of twins' date=' the weaker of the two in terms of dueling, but he makes up for it in sheer determination and loyalty to helping his little sister not get hurt, even if it means danger for himself.

 

Raven I can't help it, I just want to sell it.

 

GX did have more comic relief thanks to Fubuki and Chronos, disregarding it in S4. 5Ds does have comedy moments, mainly from Rua.

 

FJ how much of 5Ds have you seen? The whole series isn't about Riding duels, although admittedly with the cast now being more mobile, you may see less ground duels thanks to the introduction of D-Boards, and Aki taking her test to ride a D-Wheel.

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I saw up to episode 60 something. I've seen ground duels in 5Ds but I just hate the whole D-Wheel idea.

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