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[Dark]

So, I finally hit 10,000 posts.

 

And looks like Shoddy did implement the HGSS movesets. CB Extremespeed Dragonite is pure amazing. Until someone Ice Shards you. Damn Weavile.

[Tekken Ham]

I like Lum Berry DD DNite personally.

[Dark]

Why Lum Berry? I don't feel people try to status DNite too much, albeit Will-o-wisp. Yache Berry would work better, or even Haban Berry. Then again, I've never really tested Lum.

[Tekken Ham]

I get alot of TWaves on shoddy and Lum stops them. Also people try WoW on shoddy, tis' nubbery.

[Felix]

A well timed Lum berry will screw you over big time if you were relying on crippling with status. Extreme Speed turns Night into a very useful utility Poke though so it's basically a totaly different Pokemon when you run it that way.

[Tekken Ham]

I need some shoddy practice for a tourney, it's an OU but with random Ubers included for each round. Uber inclusion is mandatory.

 

Round 1 is Rayquaza, I could use some testing or rates please.

 

Here's a very brief run through and their purpose on this team, I think I'm aiming at Rayquaza too much IMO.

Team:

 

ScarfRachi

Jolly

80HP/252Atk/176Spe

SR

Trick

Ice Punch

Iron Head

 

Good lead, outspeeds +1 DD Rayquaza, and Ice Punch hax is a cool thing to do to people

 

Gengar @ Focus Sash

Timid

252 SpATK/ 252 Spe

HP Ice

Shadow Ball

TBolt

Destiny Bond

 

Revenge Kills SD variants of Rayquaza with Sash intact, dents DD ones with HP Ice.

 

Tentacruel @ Black Sludge

Calm

252 HP/ 120 Def/ 138 SpDef

TSpikes

RSpin

Surf

Ice Beam

 

Does standard jellyfish stuff like spinning and walling, except Rayquaza, who rapes this.

 

Rotom-H @ Leftovers

Timid

128 HP / 168 SpA / 212 Spe

Sub

Charge Beam

HP Ice

Will-O-Wisp

 

BoltBeam + sub + WoW = rape. General bulky thing and Scizor eater.

 

Rayquaza @ Yache Berry

Jolly

252 Atk/ 252 Spe

 

Swords Dance

Extremespeed

Dragon Claw

Earthquake

 

LOOK OUT ITS A YACHECHOMP! Does yachechomp things like raping ice counters, etc. It's general rape.

 

Scizor @ Choice Band

248 HP/ 252 Atk/ 4 Spe

U Turn

BP

Pursuit

Supahpowah

 

Does Scrubzor things like eat rayquaza counters, and other dragon counters. Dragon-Steel combo.

 

Needs less anti-rayquaza, and moar win. And testing. Thinking about Shedinja over Rotom for general rayquaza wallage. I think I'm falling into my anti-meta mentality from yugioh.

[Dark]

Why the hell would you try to status a Nite? IIRC, Nite has Heal Bell, and since it's almost completley outclassed by Mence, it would probably run a Bell set.

[david 10101]

i may sound like a noob but wot is SR

[Dark]

Stealth Rock. It's an entry harzard that needs 1 turn of setup. Almost any Pokemon can learn it. Whenever you switch in a Pokemon, it takes some damage, depending on how weak/resistant it is to Rock-type attacks.

[Tekken Ham]

You really want a wall to set up SR though, or a suicide lead. And some pokemon are better users because they have less things to do.

 

Also, does anyone want to have a roulette? I have 41 pokes on me and I'm really bored as crap.

[J123]

He knows what it means, lol. He just didn't know what the abbrieviations stood for.

BTW for the NFE tier, how do we find good movepools for a poke a smogon doesn't give any for NFE pokes. Are we meant to view their evo's page ?

[Tekken Ham]

No, make your own. Like SpecsWailmer. Or TormentSkull. Or Scarflet. Or loluvdisc.

[J123]

Lol. Damnit. Is there a real NFE tier for wifi battling though ?

[Dark]

You really want a wall to set up SR though' date=' or a suicide lead. And some pokemon are better users because they have less things to do.

 

Also, does anyone want to have a roulette? I have 41 pokes on me and I'm really bored as crap.

[/quote']

 

I have like 58 OU EVs. =)

 

Maybe I'll challenge you to roulette later. I wanted to have one with Felix, but I forgots. D:

 

He knows what it means' date=' lol. He just didn't know what the abbrieviations stood for.

BTW for the NFE tier, how do we find good movepools for a poke a smogon doesn't give any for NFE pokes. Are we meant to view their evo's page ?

[/quote']

 

It's pretty simple. Like Tekken said, you pretty much make up your own moveset. EVs don't influence a thing in NFE (assuming you are playing Little Cup, which is level 5), so you only need to worry about IVs (partially), movesets and... that's it.

 

You look at base stats, typing and you figure out a moveset from there.

 

loluvdisc

[Shogun Chicken]

Username: Shogun Chicken

Nickname: SC

Pokémon Games You Own: Ruby, Sapphire, Crystal, Emerald, Diamond, Pearl, Battle Rev.,

Platinum, HeartGold (maybe getting SoulSilver)

Friend Code: Need to find mah diamond

Trainer Name: Need to find mah diamond

Favorite Pokémon: Blaziken

Fan Fic: http://forum.yugiohcardmaker.net/thread-161312.html

[Tekken Ham]

You really want a wall to set up SR though' date=' or a suicide lead. And some pokemon are better users because they have less things to do.

 

Also, does anyone want to have a roulette? I have 41 pokes on me and I'm really bored as crap.

[/quote']

 

I have like 58 OU EVs. =)

 

Maybe I'll challenge you to roulette later. I wanted to have one with Felix, but I forgots. D:

 

He knows what it means' date=' lol. He just didn't know what the abbrieviations stood for.

BTW for the NFE tier, how do we find good movepools for a poke a smogon doesn't give any for NFE pokes. Are we meant to view their evo's page ?

[/quote']

 

It's pretty simple. Like Tekken said, you pretty much make up your own moveset. EVs don't influence a thing in NFE (assuming you are playing Little Cup, which is level 5), so you only need to worry about IVs (partially), movesets and... that's it.

 

You look at base stats, typing and you figure out a moveset from there.

 

loluvdisc

 

Luvdisc is worse than Wailmer IMO. Zex is having some funky rules for NFE where it's not LC, but not full NFE. It's a mishmash of both. We got lv 100 pokes and all moves available, but only first stages allowed and some pokes are banned. Also anything that got an evo in DPPt is banned, like Gligar, and Gligar, and more Gligar.

 

I have 41 EV'd in a mixed bag, a few NU's, a few UUs, and mostly OU's, but I have different sets of pokemon too. I'll have a legit HP Ice Shaymin I could use but it doesn't have Seed Flare and I'm working on leveling it to 100 w/o rare candies. Would the fast level up cheat on my rom work?

[J123]

You really want a wall to set up SR though' date=' or a suicide lead. And some pokemon are better users because they have less things to do.

 

Also, does anyone want to have a roulette? I have 41 pokes on me and I'm really bored as crap.

[/quote']

 

I have like 58 OU EVs. =)

 

Maybe I'll challenge you to roulette later. I wanted to have one with Felix, but I forgots. D:

 

He knows what it means' date=' lol. He just didn't know what the abbrieviations stood for.

BTW for the NFE tier, how do we find good movepools for a poke a smogon doesn't give any for NFE pokes. Are we meant to view their evo's page ?

[/quote']

 

It's pretty simple. Like Tekken said, you pretty much make up your own moveset. EVs don't influence a thing in NFE (assuming you are playing Little Cup, which is level 5), so you only need to worry about IVs (partially), movesets and... that's it.

 

You look at base stats, typing and you figure out a moveset from there.

 

loluvdisc

 

Luvdisc is worse than Wailmer IMO. Zex is having some funky rules for NFE where it's not LC, but not full NFE. It's a mishmash of both. We got lv 100 pokes and all moves available, but only first stages allowed and some pokes are banned. Also anything that got an evo in DPPt is banned, like Gligar, and Gligar, and more Gligar.

 

I have 41 EV'd in a mixed bag, a few NU's, a few UUs, and mostly OU's, but I have different sets of pokemon too. I'll have a legit HP Ice Shaymin I could use but it doesn't have Seed Flare and I'm working on leveling it to 100 w/o rare candies. Would the fast level up cheat on my rom work?

 

So you can't use EV's in NFE :S?

And wth is lil cup?

BTW Tekken why don't you just use teh rare candy?

[Tekken Ham]

You really want a wall to set up SR though' date=' or a suicide lead. And some pokemon are better users because they have less things to do.

 

Also, does anyone want to have a roulette? I have 41 pokes on me and I'm really bored as crap.

[/quote']

 

I have like 58 OU EVs. =)

 

Maybe I'll challenge you to roulette later. I wanted to have one with Felix, but I forgots. D:

 

He knows what it means' date=' lol. He just didn't know what the abbrieviations stood for.

BTW for the NFE tier, how do we find good movepools for a poke a smogon doesn't give any for NFE pokes. Are we meant to view their evo's page ?

[/quote']

 

It's pretty simple. Like Tekken said, you pretty much make up your own moveset. EVs don't influence a thing in NFE (assuming you are playing Little Cup, which is level 5), so you only need to worry about IVs (partially), movesets and... that's it.

 

You look at base stats, typing and you figure out a moveset from there.

 

loluvdisc

 

Luvdisc is worse than Wailmer IMO. Zex is having some funky rules for NFE where it's not LC, but not full NFE. It's a mishmash of both. We got lv 100 pokes and all moves available, but only first stages allowed and some pokes are banned. Also anything that got an evo in DPPt is banned, like Gligar, and Gligar, and more Gligar.

 

I have 41 EV'd in a mixed bag, a few NU's, a few UUs, and mostly OU's, but I have different sets of pokemon too. I'll have a legit HP Ice Shaymin I could use but it doesn't have Seed Flare and I'm working on leveling it to 100 w/o rare candies. Would the fast level up cheat on my rom work?

 

So you can't use EV's in NFE :S?

And wth is lil cup?

BTW Tekken why don't you just use teh rare candy?

 

We can EV in NFE, you can TRY to in LC, but they have to be below/at 5.

 

Rare Candies don't use EV's, so I wouldn't get my 320 Spe.

[Dark]

Once you get all your EVs set in stone, then Rare Candies work. For example, if you are at level 78, and you battle 252 Bidoofs, you'll get 252 HP EVs. If you Rare Candy up to 79, you'll lose those EVs. If you actually level up to 79, you'll have those EVs and you can Rare Candy up till 100 without losing anything.

[Tekken Ham]

Sonofagun! It worked! Now GeorgeBush the Shaymin is ready to kick ass and bomb terrorists with HP Ice and max Speed!

 

2 more pokes lined up for EV training. But I have a Banette with near flawless IV's, 30 Atk, 27 SpAtk, Adamant, but with Frisk. What set should I use it with?

[Dark]

I never really thought Banette was useful for anything. :/

 

And you named your Shaymin ''GeorgeBush''? STOP DEGRADING SHAYMIN'S STATUS! xD

[Tekken Ham]

I never really thought Banette was useful for anything. :/

 

And you named your Shaymin ''GeorgeBush''? STOP DEGRADING SHAYMIN'S STATUS! xD

 

Shaymin is a bush that just happens to be named George, there is no connotation to any real life person, no matter how retarded that person is.

 

It also bombs things with seeds.

 

Banette CAN absorb sleep, but I got a Frisky one from a giveaway. I was thinking some random Choice Band set for the lulz.

[Felix]

@Tekken: I don't like a Sash on a Pokemon that isn't a lead and have you thought about DDRay? Let me get back to you on it though, after I've had another look. It might be an idea to change your team so tha it isn't just rayquaza that you're trying to sweep with. Seeing as how everyone will have one, like you, your opponent will have multiple checks for it, making it hard to perform a sweep. Using a different Pokemon could possibly catch them off guard. Using a mixed set for Rayray is also an idea.

[Tekken Ham]

@Tekken: I don't like a Sash on a Pokemon that isn't a lead and have you thought about DDRay? Let me get back to you on it though' date=' after I've had another look.

[/quote']

 

It doesn't really matter, I lost the first round to hax and the RNG for damage funking me up.

[Felix]

... sucks.

 

I haven't thought much about Zex's tourney recently, ideas for teams? I think I'm getting a bit bored of YCM tbh, I haven't been posting much recently.