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[Dark]

:/

 

Tomorrow is the day most people (except Felix) should challenge me to a battle, because I don't know when I will have other free time due to school starting. And this is SAT year. :/

 

Also, Felix, working on my team, so I'll battle you whenever I get a chance. Either way, I want Giratina.

[Sailor Gourmet]

Alright, aside form this...

 

!~NEW TOPIC~!

 

What are your top favorite battle combos?

[Felix]

If we're talking single Pokemon and their moves it's either Mean Passer Umbreon or SubPunch Breloom. If you mean multiple Pokemon I like CeliTran, a combination of Celebi and Heatran which can form a quite powerful Defensive core.

[Hybrid13]

Username:strategist13

Nickname:Nick

Pokémon Games You Own:Leafgreen, Sahpphire, Diamond, XD: Gale of Darkness, Mystery Dungeon:Time, Platinum, Pokemon Battle Revolution

Friend Code:(will upload them soon)

Trainer Name:Nickey

Favorite Pokémon:Squirtle or Turtwig

[El Beasto Perezoso]

The combo that I've wanted to try is an invincible Spiritomb or Sableye team.

Shedinja + pokemon w/ Skill Swap, switch out to either Sableye or Spiritomb, then use Skill Swap again and poof, unhitable pokemon. Only works in double battels though...

[Felix]

There not unbeatable, in fact they're very beatable. Aside from that I'd like to see you try that while being hit by two attacks each turn, not to mention they can just phaze you out.

[El Beasto Perezoso]

Oh I didnt mean they were unbeatable, its quite easy to take down the Shedinja or whatever with those two attacks as you said. it's just once the Dark/Ghost gets the Wonder Gaurd, then there is no way to hit it because no moves are supereffective against them.

[Felix]

No they can be killed and I'll explain how in a few minutes.

[El Beasto Perezoso]

Oh wait a few ways just popped into my head. Does it have to do with hail and such other indirect attacks? Oh well it'd stil be fun to do though and if i was facing some average player theyd probably be like WTF? Kinda obvious it wouldnt work on people like you guys whose teams are made of win.

 

EDIT: Just looked around youtube, wtf fire fang can hit it?

[Felix]

Yes Fire Fang can hit WonderTomb and WonderEye. However what you're forgetting is that (even if you managed to pull it off) Woder Gaurd is not it's real abilty, so by simply Roaring/Whirlwind them out you've solved the problem of not being able to use direct attacks. And yes, inderect damage also applies and with so much around it's very difficult to avoid; you've got Stealth Rock, Spikes, Toxic Spikes, (Roar and Whirlwind just increase the amount of damge done to them) Sand Storm, Hail and damaging status aka Burn and Toxic and let's not forget Perish Song which, like Roar, will force a switch as well. An entirely pointless team type with and end result that's still lack luster. Plus, it's not like their offensive prowess is going to be frightening anyone off.

[Dark]

You cannot Skill Swap the ability Wonder Guard.

 

http://www.smogon.com/dp/moves/skill_swap

 

Does not work on Multitype or Wonder Guard Pokémon.

[Felix]

Damn it, that's the one thing I missed out on. I was like "I'm sure there's something else:?". I was going to write it and I totaly forgot:/

[Dark]

If it worked on Multitype, I would totally rape with Dark Plated Darkrai using (obviously hacked) Judgement. :D

 

100 (Judgement) x 1.5 (STAB) x 1.2 (Plate) = 180 Base Power!

 

From Base 135 SpA. :D

[Felix]

I think plates are only a 10% increase in power.

 

Also, I have a few more Pokemon and I want to try them out. Any takers?

[Dark]

Life Orb is 30%, right? Plates and other items have to be 20%, then.

 

Dread Plate

Raises the power of Dark-type moves 20%. Pokémon with Multitype become Dark-type.

 

http://www.smogon.com/dp/items/dread_plate

[Felix]

I always thought it was those Type specific items were 10% Maybe that was last gen before they introduced the Muscle Band and Wise Glasses.

[Dark]

That's possible. I assumed that since the plates were 20%, the other items would also be 20%, but they could well be 10%.

[Felix]

So it must go like this.

 

Choice 50

 

Life Orb 30

 

Type Specific Items and Expert belt 20

 

Muscle Band and Wise Glasses 10

 

Why I never noticed I don't know:/

 

Also, I just found out that Explosion has a secondary effect that I didn't know about, esentially making it a 500 BP attack.

[Tomiix]

whats the secondary effect?

[Felix]

As well as being 250 Base Power it treats the opponents DEF as if it's halfed.

[Dark]

I knew that prior, but I haven't got the time to research if that works for SelfDestruct as well.

 

Tell me that you re-applied for a sticky!

[Felix]

First I'm trying to find out why it was unstickied. Opal doesn't know so now I'm asking Hunter and Flame Dragon.

[Felix Culpa]

First I'm trying to find out why it was unstickied. Opal doesn't know so now I'm asking Hunter and Flame Dragon.

 

Good point... I use subsriptions on this, so i didn't notice till Dark posted.

[El Beasto Perezoso]

Huh i just notcied it too. Is it not active enough or somethin?

[Shradow]

Maybe the World or Ragnarok kicked this club out?