Dark Posted June 21, 2009 Report Share Posted June 21, 2009 The only problem is that people could capitalize (sp?) on Munchlax's poor defenses and send out a priority user to be done with it. And considering this is a physical attacker, you would need a Tyranitar (if Munchy lacks BB) with DEF and HP EVs to counter it, and set up sand to get residual damage. You also need to think you don't get any super-effective hits on Scizor, and Scizor IS pretty bulky when it comes to physical and weak special attacks. With a CB Technician Bullet Punch, Scizor would 2HKO or even OHKO depending on how much the random damage formula likes you. Also, you only have 3 turns to use this thing. One turn is wasted after you set-up TR, and another is wasted after you switch to this thing or Explode. That means you have 3 turns to do as much damage as possible. After that it is pretty much Pursuit and set-up bait. But I can see where you are going with this. If this was the hacked tier, I would so give it Swords Dance. =D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tekken Ham Posted June 21, 2009 Report Share Posted June 21, 2009 The only problem is that people could capitalize (sp?) on Munchlax's poor defenses and send out a priority user to be done with it. And considering this is a physical attacker' date=' you would need a Tyranitar (if Munchy lacks BB) with DEF and HP EVs to counter it, and set up sand to get residual damage. You also need to think you don't get any super-effective hits on Scizor, and Scizor IS pretty bulky when it comes to physical and weak special attacks. With a CB Technician Bullet Punch, Scizor would 2HKO or even OHKO depending on how much the random damage formula likes you. Also, you only have 3 turns to use this thing. One turn is wasted after you set-up TR, and another is wasted after you switch to this thing or Explode. That means you have 3 turns to do as much damage as possible. After that it is pretty much Pursuit and set-up bait. But I can see where you are going with this. If this was the hacked tier, I would so give it Swords Dance. =D[/quote'] If someone took this into OU, they'd be an idiot for the above stated reason of Scizor with Bullet Punch. But in UU, it would do fairly well, bar Hitmontop coming in and raping it. In NFE tier Munchlax in TR is a beast. But TR is so hard to set up and use, and it's so short of a duration, it doesn't work. But yeah, Munchy is pretty cool for a baby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Posted June 21, 2009 Report Share Posted June 21, 2009 I would SOO use this thing in UU/NU play. And in NFE, this thing would be Uber (silly Dark and his puns). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tekken Ham Posted June 21, 2009 Report Share Posted June 21, 2009 I would SOO use this thing in UU/NU play. And in NFE' date=' this thing would be Uber (silly Dark and his puns).[/quote'] No, Chansey is Uber in NFE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Posted June 22, 2009 Report Share Posted June 22, 2009 Chansey is UU... she can't be used in NFE... *awkward moment of silence* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Mousy Posted June 22, 2009 Report Share Posted June 22, 2009 I would personally use Snorlax over Munchlax in trick room team. Yes Chansey is UU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Posted June 22, 2009 Report Share Posted June 22, 2009 You have to count out OUs though, because OU Pokemon outclass a bunch of UUs. Except Porygon2. He is epic. Also, check out the links in my sig. Maybe one of them is related to pogeymanz. =O Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Mousy Posted June 22, 2009 Report Share Posted June 22, 2009 Why is Porygon2 Epic? Trace?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Posted June 22, 2009 Report Share Posted June 22, 2009 Yeah. He can switch into Salamence, Gyarados, Electivire, Jolteon, Vappy, etc. And I found a new use. When it's Sandstorming (?), you can send Porygon2 out against anything with Sand Veil and you won't be affected by the Sandstorm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tekken Ham Posted June 22, 2009 Report Share Posted June 22, 2009 Trace + Defensive Stats = Win. Best Gyara counter ever. EDIT: I'm making one atm too, xD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Mousy Posted June 22, 2009 Report Share Posted June 22, 2009 I liked porygon-z better. I swept 4-0 with scarfed porygon-z. just spam thunderbolt!!! lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Posted June 22, 2009 Report Share Posted June 22, 2009 NP Z is way better, but you need to guarantee a Sub and a few Speed Boosts from Ninjask. EDIT: 60 total EVs. =D Too bad 3 of 'em are Uber. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Judgment Dragon Posted June 22, 2009 Report Share Posted June 22, 2009 Why is Porygon2 Epic? Trace?!? Yes. Trace makes for some nice switch-in possibilities and counters. Also' date=' it is slow and bulky enough to utilize Trick Room effectively. I'm gonna start working on one soon. A basic idea: Porygon2Item: LeftoversNature: QuietIVs: 0 SpeEVs: 252 HP / 120 Def / 136 SpAAbility: Trace Moves: Trick RoomThunderboltIce BeamRecover I could probably go for a Relaxed Nature for more Physical Bulk. It would just mean I would probably need to invest more EVs in Special Attack. I liked porygon-z better. I swept 4-0 with scarfed porygon-z. just spam thunderbolt!!! lol All Porygon-Z can really do is sweep though. But yeah. It's awesome. I have a Timid Specs one. Porygon2 outclasses Porygon-Z in supporting roles but Porygon-Z outclasses Porygon2 in sweeping roles. Kinda funny when you think about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Posted June 22, 2009 Report Share Posted June 22, 2009 Porygon-Z needs to be faster. If he uses a Scarf, he can't secure KOs on bulky walls. If you uses Specs, anything faster than it (ie, 100 Base Speed and up) can revenge kill. That's why NP Z with Speed Boosts from ol Ninjask is perfect. You can SubPass to Z, NP while they break your sub, and you can probably sweep with 2 or 3 speed boosts. But I'm probably gonna change my Porygon to Modest Scarf. I don't like using Ninjask because it's too much of a liability on your team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Mousy Posted June 22, 2009 Report Share Posted June 22, 2009 Ninjask is harder than you think. Does anyone want to play a shoddy tourney? It's a thread in this forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Judgment Dragon Posted June 22, 2009 Report Share Posted June 22, 2009 Porygon-Z needs to be faster. If he uses a Scarf' date=' he can't secure KOs on bulky walls. If you uses Specs, anything faster than it (ie, 100 Base Speed and up) can revenge kill. That's why NP Z with Speed Boosts from ol Ninjask is perfect. You can SubPass to Z, NP while they break your sub, and you can probably sweep with 2 or 3 speed boosts. But I'm probably gonna change my Porygon to Modest Scarf. I don't like using Ninjask because it's too much of a liability on your team.[/quote'] I'm thinking for Scarf Porygon-Z, Baton Pass support from a Special Attack passer could work. It would already have the Speed thanks to Scarf and would regain the power lost from the lack of Nasty Plot or Choice Specs. Or inversely, Ninjask could pass on speed increases to the Specs set. Specs compensates for the lack of Nasty Plot to some extent and the Speed increases would be applied and make for a potentially deadly sweeper. Just putting it out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zexaeon Posted June 22, 2009 Report Share Posted June 22, 2009 >=3 I've come up with an ingenius tournament idea. It's lovely! It's spectacular! It's filled with Variety! And on top of that, it will allow every entrant to shine in at least one aspect - and will also challenge the training skills of all entrants. Due to the conditions, I will allow probably a month of leeway time after I announce it for all entrants to prepare effectively. If my Brother lets me use his laptop later, I'll announce this fabulous tournament, today. I'll let you all guess what it is, but I doubt anyone will figure it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmarti 82 Posted June 22, 2009 Report Share Posted June 22, 2009 Username: jmarti 82Nickname:AlexPokemon Games I Own: Gold, Fire Red, Leaf Green, Emrald, Sapphire, Diamond, Pearl, Platinum.Friend Code: 4297 0691 6801 (Platinum)Trainer Name: AlexFavorite Pokemon: Gallade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Posted June 22, 2009 Report Share Posted June 22, 2009 Porygon-Z needs to be faster. If he uses a Scarf' date=' he can't secure KOs on bulky walls. If you uses Specs, anything faster than it (ie, 100 Base Speed and up) can revenge kill. That's why NP Z with Speed Boosts from ol Ninjask is perfect. You can SubPass to Z, NP while they break your sub, and you can probably sweep with 2 or 3 speed boosts. But I'm probably gonna change my Porygon to Modest Scarf. I don't like using Ninjask because it's too much of a liability on your team.[/quote'] I'm thinking for Scarf Porygon-Z, Baton Pass support from a Special Attack passer could work. It would already have the Speed thanks to Scarf and would regain the power lost from the lack of Nasty Plot or Choice Specs. Or inversely, Ninjask could pass on speed increases to the Specs set. Specs compensates for the lack of Nasty Plot to some extent and the Speed increases would be applied and make for a potentially deadly sweeper. Just putting it out there. The only problem I see with that is that you lose versatility. Sure, you have a strong AND fast sweeper, but you only get to use one move and locked into it. That means you will be switching out often, losing your boosts. If you were passed a few speed boosts on a LO set, you could change between moves. >=3 I've come up with an ingenius tournament idea. It's lovely! It's spectacular! It's filled with Variety! And on top of that' date=' it will allow every entrant to shine in at least one aspect - and will also challenge the training skills of all entrants. Due to the conditions, I will allow probably a month of leeway time after I announce it for all entrants to prepare effectively. If my Brother lets me use his laptop later, I'll announce this fabulous tournament, today. I'll let you all guess what it is, but I doubt anyone will figure it out.[/quote'] 4 vs. 4 Singles Each entrant must use 1 Uber, 1 OU, 1 UU and 1 NU. Username: jmarti 82Nickname:AlexPokemon Games I Own: Gold' date=' Fire Red, Leaf Green, Emrald, Sapphire, Diamond, Pearl, Platinum.Friend Code: 4297 0691 6801 (Platinum)Trainer Name: AlexFavorite Pokemon: Gallade[/quote'] Awesome. How good are you at competitive battling? I could challenge you if you feel you are up to it. I AM winning in YCM battles 3-1. You could make that 3-2... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zexaeon Posted June 22, 2009 Report Share Posted June 22, 2009 Silly Dark, you wouldn't need a month for that. =3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EliminateHRN Posted June 22, 2009 Report Share Posted June 22, 2009 I'm about to go to Iron Island to get that Riolu (sp?) egg. Plus, I really need to level up some. On a side note, I just beat the steel gym. EDIT: Also, I want a good moveset for a Golem (that Geodude evolution). I want to raise one. But I have no idea on a moveset. Any ideas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Posted June 22, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 22, 2009 EQ, Stone Edge, Gyro Ball, Avalanche; perfect for a n00b. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EliminateHRN Posted June 22, 2009 Report Share Posted June 22, 2009 Okay. :D I'm still new to competive pokemon battles, I usually just battle my sister who fails at pokemon as she only trains her Piplup and Chimchar. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Posted June 22, 2009 Report Share Posted June 22, 2009 Twilight, do you have an FC and access to WiFi? We could do a few test battles and I could teach you all about competitive battling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Force_Flex Posted June 22, 2009 Report Share Posted June 22, 2009 Twilight' date=' do you have an FC and access to WiFi? We could do a few test battles and I could teach you all about competitive battling.[/quote'] Can you teach me how to EV train?Can you teach me how to EV train? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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