ragnarok1945 Posted February 5, 2009 Report Share Posted February 5, 2009 please. One of my friends fought a hellknight with his bare fists (without the hell cube that gives you the 1 hit KO move for a while) If you can circle-strafe perfectly' date=' then it's easier. Having the Berserk stempack powerup also helps. Overall, not a smart idea to go with a chainsaw or fists. Most average players would get slaughtered trying it. I prefer the pistol or shotgun myself.[/quote'] In the Hell level you MUST fight one Hellknight with the shotgun. Later on I tend to get bored because there's so many so I switch over to BFG, rocket launcher, or chaingun. For some reason I find the plasma gun not very effective Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saturn of Elemia Posted February 5, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2009 please. One of my friends fought a hellknight with his bare fists (without the hell cube that gives you the 1 hit KO move for a while) If you can circle-strafe perfectly' date=' then it's easier. Having the Berserk stempack powerup also helps. Overall, not a smart idea to go with a chainsaw or fists. Most average players would get slaughtered trying it. I prefer the pistol or shotgun myself.[/quote'] In the Hell level you MUST fight one Hellknight with the shotgun. Later on I tend to get bored because there's so many so I switch over to BFG, rocket launcher, or chaingun. For some reason I find the plasma gun not very effective Yeah, it's better to go with the heavy hitter weapons for crowds. When singled out, you can use lesser weapons. The Plasma Gun is better for taking out groups of smaller enemies quickly as opposed to taking out bigger baddies - unless its singled out. However, it's better to use the Chaingun in order to save Cells for your BFG9000 when you need it. In the original game, there was much debate on which weapon was better to use to take out the Cyberdemon - the Plasma Gun or the Rocket Launcher: Rocket Launcher - Takes about 20 or so Rockets, but delay in firing timePlasma Gun - Takes about 200-300 Cells and fires fast, but uses lot of ammo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted February 5, 2009 Report Share Posted February 5, 2009 the plasma gun does not require THAT many shots to kill, more around the 65 shot range for a Hellknight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saturn of Elemia Posted February 5, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2009 the plasma gun does not require THAT many shots to kill' date=' more around the 65 shot range for a Hellknight[/quote'] The stats I gave out were for the Cyberdemon, not the Hellknight. As for the Hellknight, that sounds about right. Just remembered the funny description for the Lost Soul in the Doom instruction manuel: Small. Dumb. Flies. On fire. 'Nuff said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted February 5, 2009 Report Share Posted February 5, 2009 Yeah for the Cyberdemon it'd take at least 250 shots. But it makes no difference in Doom 3. The Cyberdemon isn't vulnerable to anything but the Soulcube Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saturn of Elemia Posted February 5, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2009 Yeah for the Cyberdemon it'd take at least 250 shots. But it makes no difference in Doom 3. The Cyberdemon isn't vulnerable to anything but the Soulcube That's what I liked about Doom 3: The Cyberdemon was one of a kind and had a special way of killing it. Couldn't it also instantly kill you by stomping on your or something like that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted February 5, 2009 Report Share Posted February 5, 2009 if it got within close range, yes. You max out at 125 armor and 100 health. The stomp does 400 damage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saturn of Elemia Posted February 5, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2009 if it got within close range' date=' yes. You max out at 125 armor and 100 health. The stomp does 400 damage[/quote'] At least it's nice to see a big enemy finally decide to say "You know what? I'm big! Why don't I just STOMP on the good guy and kill him?" Also, I know that there is a boss in Doom 3 with a BFG9000 for a weapon. I think it was Sabaoth, if I'm not mistaken. It had tank tread legs and you had to fight on a small platform area. I bet that fight would be a ton of fun. In a FAQ, I read that you could shoot the BFG blasts to get rid of them... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted February 5, 2009 Report Share Posted February 5, 2009 Sabaoth is just Sgt Kelly's demonic conversion. Finally every military private's dream: kill your CO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saturn of Elemia Posted February 5, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2009 Now for more specific fun (for everyone): What was your favorite stage for each episode of the original game? Episode 1: Phobos Lab (The music was awesome and the stage wasn't too short or long)Episode 2: Refinery (Loved going all the way around to get to the exit that you could see right off)Episode 3: Slough of Despair (The map layout was just plain cool) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted February 5, 2009 Report Share Posted February 5, 2009 I never played the original, so I can't answer that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saturn of Elemia Posted February 5, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2009 Was never a fan of the long stages where you had to backtrack a lot. It got annoying fast. Another interesting thing: Doom 64 is the only game where you see the Queen Demon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted February 5, 2009 Report Share Posted February 5, 2009 I've never even heard of that one before. What's she like? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starwebs1 Posted February 6, 2009 Report Share Posted February 6, 2009 I have only played the demo where you cannot beat the first boss. Still, awesome game! Though, I do like Wolfenstein 3-D for the PC better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted February 6, 2009 Report Share Posted February 6, 2009 What was the first boss like? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saturn of Elemia Posted February 6, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 6, 2009 I've never even heard of that one before. What's she like? It wasn't much, really. Just a floating demon that fired flaming waves along the ground in multiple directions. If you got hit, you took a bit of damage and got thrown backwards. The only thing that made this fight difficult was the enemies spawning from the column in the middle of the arena. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted February 6, 2009 Report Share Posted February 6, 2009 reminds me of the Guardian I had to fight in Hell in Doom 3, if he sees you he'll stomp the ground to cause fireballs to fire in all directions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saturn of Elemia Posted February 6, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 6, 2009 reminds me of the Guardian I had to fight in Hell in Doom 3' date=' if he sees you he'll stomp the ground to cause fireballs to fire in all directions[/quote'] I heard that boss was pretty tough to deal with. It had scouts of some kind floating around since it was (I'm guessing) blind. If you got located by a scout, then the Guardian would charge at you and dish out a large amount of damage. I don't remember how you were supposed to kill it, though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted February 6, 2009 Report Share Posted February 6, 2009 please. If you have the rocket launcher the guardian's a snap. See, the guardian itself is blind. The 3 scouts it summons out have searchlights to locate you. If you kill all 3 scouts, it will open a portal above itself to summon 3 more. That portal is its weakness. At the very beginning of the fight it will open the portal to summon the scouts. You have the rocket launcher you can strip away up to 2/3 of its life before it has a chance to do ANYTHING Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saturn of Elemia Posted February 6, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 6, 2009 please. If you have the rocket launcher the guardian's a snap. See' date=' the guardian itself is blind. The 3 scouts it summons out have searchlights to locate you. If you kill all 3 scouts, it will open a portal above itself to summon 3 more. That portal is its weakness. At the very beginning of the fight it will open the portal to summon the scouts. You have the rocket launcher you can strip away up to 2/3 of its life before it has a chance to do ANYTHING[/quote'] Well, that doesn't sound like much of a fight at all. Fighting against the Spider Mastermind in the other games seems harder than this thing... =/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted February 6, 2009 Report Share Posted February 6, 2009 well, if you don't have the rocket launcher, THEN you're in for quite a fight. The other weapons' damage simply don't do enough damage on the upper difficulty levels Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saturn of Elemia Posted February 7, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 7, 2009 What about the Vagary? Isn't that the first boss that you fight? How hard is that one to fight? (The one that looks like a spider) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted February 7, 2009 Report Share Posted February 7, 2009 the Vagary is only a boss because at that point the most powerful weapon you have is the chain gun (gatling gun). Isn't that bad if you know which direction to strafe. First time I fought her (normal difficulty) I didn't know how to strafe, so I lost about 45% of my life when it was over Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saturn of Elemia Posted February 8, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2009 Speaking of the Chaingun: The Spider Mastermind got jipped in the long run. It was the final boss of the original game and was quite a formidable foe. Ever since Doom 2, it became a joke. Why? 1) The Chaingun Dudes - Common enemies wielding the awesome power of the Chaingun2) The Arachnatrons - Mini Spider Masterminds with Plasma Guns instead of Chainguns that deal far more damage The Spider Mastermind basically became a joke. Poor guy... =( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted February 8, 2009 Report Share Posted February 8, 2009 well the Chaingun commando zombie you fight a lot too in Doom 3, but they're barely ever a threat because when you use the chaingun, each bullet does 20 damage. But when they use it against you, each bullet only does 3 damage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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