Skarlet Posted January 19, 2009 Report Share Posted January 19, 2009 could it ever be legal, even at 1, and not be completly broken, it seems less useful nowadays the when it got banned JD and DAD would simply eat it the turn after it was summoned, not to mension all the other removal, it's best use would probably be summon, Remove a threat, tribute for a monarch, or somthing like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted January 19, 2009 Report Share Posted January 19, 2009 Chaos Sorcerer was broken enough before Synchro Monsters. I don't see why you idiots think that a Level 6 that Special Summons itself from the hand but can't attack the turn it uses its removal effect would somehow become more balanced following the advent of Synchro Monsters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Judgment Dragon Posted January 19, 2009 Report Share Posted January 19, 2009 This should never return. Not when it is very easy to summon, can remove from play any face-up monster and then Synchro Summon something big with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skarlet Posted January 19, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2009 Ahh synchros, well Crab, at 1, you get somthing like this, once. SS Chaos Sorcerer, remove a threat, tune into SDD or the like. this happens once, and when you consider some of the other stuff happening these days, it seems quite minor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted January 19, 2009 Report Share Posted January 19, 2009 Ahh synchros' date=' well Crab, at 1, you get somthing like this, once. SS Chaos Sorcerer, remove a threat, tune into SDD or the like. this happens once, and when you consider some of the other stuff happening these days, it seems quite minor.[/quote'] Sure, let's put this at 1. Let's also put Graceful Charity and Painful Choice at 1 as well. After all, you'll only get their effects once too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skarlet Posted January 19, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2009 Crab, CS is completely different, it's effect is pretty much worthless when you consider Judgment Dragon, or DaD or even Demise.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted January 19, 2009 Report Share Posted January 19, 2009 Crab' date=' CS is completely different, it's effect is pretty much worthless when you consider Judgment Dragon, or DaD or even Demise....[/quote'] Confiscation's effect is pretty worthless when you consider The Forceful Sentry. Let's bring that back to 1, or maybe 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skarlet Posted January 19, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2009 Considering Forceful Sentry is forbidden, your argument is null and void... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted January 19, 2009 Report Share Posted January 19, 2009 Considering Forceful Sentry is forbidden' date=' your argument is null and void...[/quote'] Considering that all three cards you mentioned should be Forbidden, your argument is null and void. Being less broken than another broken card does not imply balance.` Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skarlet Posted January 19, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2009 Judgment Dragon is at 2, Demise is at 3, and correct me if I'm wrong but DAD is topping the meta and is there for legal, no? and I never said it implied balance, I simply stated, that given the options those cards give and none of them are banned it seems kinda strange to ban Chaos Sorcerer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted January 19, 2009 Report Share Posted January 19, 2009 Judgment Dragon is at 2' date=' Demise is at 3, and correct me if I'm wrong but DAD is topping the meta and is there for legal, no?[/quote'] Go back and read my post, you illiterate moron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iAmNateXero Posted January 19, 2009 Report Share Posted January 19, 2009 Easy abusable monster = Banned monster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skarlet Posted January 19, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2009 I stand corrected then, but they are not, and I doubt they will be, well demise won't, the other 2, possibly... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted January 19, 2009 Report Share Posted January 19, 2009 I stand corrected then' date=' but they are not, and I doubt they will be, well demise won't, the other 2, possibly...[/quote'] Whether they will be banned or not is completely irrelevant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skarlet Posted January 19, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2009 It is relevent, becuse is chaos sorcerer realy broken in a meta where massive monsters appear out of thin air and blast everything on the field to mush? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted January 19, 2009 Report Share Posted January 19, 2009 It is relevent' date=' becuse is chaos sorcerer realy broken in a meta where massive monsters appear out of thin air and blast everything on the field to mush?[/quote'] Those cards should be banned. I'm fairly certain that I already made that clear. It's like I'm talking to a wall here. A thick wall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skarlet Posted January 19, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2009 Those cards SHOULD be banned, it doesnt mean they will and IF they are not, then would Chaos Sorcerer at 1 be so very broken? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted January 19, 2009 Report Share Posted January 19, 2009 Those cards SHOULD be banned' date=' it doesnt mean they will and [u']IF[/u] they are not, then would Chaos Sorcerer at 1 be so very broken? If they are not... then they should be. It's as simple as that. If we can control Chaos Sorcerer's list position, then we can also control theirs. At any rate, a format with those three plus Chaos Sorcerer legal is still worse than a format with just those three. The difference is not quite as great as the difference between a format with none of those four and a difference with those three banned but Chaos Sorcerer legal, but Chaos Sorcerer's legality would still damage the game. Now, would you be so kind as to stop making an idiot of yourself? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curium Posted January 19, 2009 Report Share Posted January 19, 2009 Those cards SHOULD be banned' date=' it doesnt mean they will and [u']IF[/u] they are not, then would Chaos Sorcerer at 1 be so very broken? Why are we unbanning more broken cards instead of simply banning DAD? Answer this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skarlet Posted January 19, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2009 I disagree with Chaos Sorcerer being less broken the DaD, can CS nuke the entire field then deal 1/3 LP damage on it's own? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curium Posted January 19, 2009 Report Share Posted January 19, 2009 can CS nuke the entire field then deal 1/3 LP damage on it's own? No' date=' it cannot, implying Chaos Sorcerer is less broken than DAD. I disagree with Chaos Sorcerer being less broken the DaD What are you talking about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skarlet Posted January 19, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2009 more broken* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curium Posted January 19, 2009 Report Share Posted January 19, 2009 more broken* Alright, it was a problem of the wording.Reworded:Why are we unbanning even more cards than before (that deserves to be banned) instead of banning DAD? Does that mean that, if new spells likePot of GreenNormal SpellDraw 3 Cards or Bowl of GreedNormal SpellDiscard 2 cards to draw 3. are released.Does this justify the unbanning of Pot of Greed or Graceful Charity? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skarlet Posted January 19, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2009 No, once again, I simply mean to say, that if JD, DAD, and Demise, remain unbanned, which they probably will then chaos sorcerer's return wouldn't make too much of an impact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted January 19, 2009 Report Share Posted January 19, 2009 I disagree with Chaos Sorcerer being less broken the DaD' date=' can CS nuke the entire field then deal 1/3 LP damage on it's own?[/quote'] Stop posting until you've actually read what other people have said, rook. more broken* Stop posting until you've actually read what other people have said' date=' rook. No, once again, I simply mean to say, that if JD, DAD, and Demise, remain unbanned, which they probably will then chaos sorcerer's return wouldn't make too much of an impact. Stop posting until you've actually read what other people have said, rook. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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