Azuh Posted January 15, 2009 Report Share Posted January 15, 2009 [align=center]Discuss Unions Konami let these down. Horrible mechanics. They need more support[/align] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azmodius Posted January 15, 2009 Report Share Posted January 15, 2009 iAgree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazer Yoshi Posted January 15, 2009 Report Share Posted January 15, 2009 ^ iSecond.Useless pieces of Crap. Maybe that Union for Cyber Dragon wasn't TOO, wait, it was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PikaPerson01 Posted January 15, 2009 Report Share Posted January 15, 2009 They need to be SS-ed fasters. They need to much better effects other then "increase [Monster]'s attack by [number]." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tabris Posted January 15, 2009 Report Share Posted January 15, 2009 Well, Unions were designed to serve specific themes (not to mention specific cards). There's nothin' we can do about them, really, but to bolster the support of the only archetype largely based around Unions - UWXYZ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted January 15, 2009 Report Share Posted January 15, 2009 Well' date=' Unions were designed to serve specific themes (not to mention specific cards). There's nothin' we can do about them, really, but to bolster the support of the only archetype largely based around Unions - UWXYZ.[/quote'] Which, to be fair, Konami did recently, so maybe there's still hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azuh Posted January 15, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2009 Hyper Coat! Hyper Coat! Hyper Coat! But really, there is so much support they can make with Unions. They did it with Spirits, Ojamas. Now maybe they can help Unions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemniscate Posted January 15, 2009 Report Share Posted January 15, 2009 There is very little support for unions."Frontline Base" is too slow to help. And it only Special Summons from Hand. They really need help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tabris Posted January 15, 2009 Report Share Posted January 15, 2009 I'd argue that they needn't have support, unless they gather round a theme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted January 15, 2009 Report Share Posted January 15, 2009 I'd argue that they needn't have support' date=' unless they gather round a theme.[/quote'] Support for Unions in general would indeed be of little use outside of a specific theme, since a given deck would use one, perhaps two Unions at the most, making the support impractical. That's not to say that Konami couldn't start releasing better Unions, or support for specific Unions. For example, take something like one of the Duel Terminal archetypes and give it a monster with an archetype-specific Marauding Captain effect and a Union monster that can equip to any other member of the archetype and actually gives an effect worth using (as opposed to "equipped monster gains 400 ATK" or some other nonsense). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenzoTheHarpist Posted January 15, 2009 Report Share Posted January 15, 2009 Well there are some good unions, Spirit of the Six Samurai comes to mind as a notable one that sees some use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tabris Posted January 15, 2009 Report Share Posted January 15, 2009 Spirit is junk. Junk junk junk. One could've wished that it had a thousand points more statwise... ... instead, we got this weakling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PikaPerson01 Posted January 15, 2009 Report Share Posted January 15, 2009 The one major flaw of union monsters is that for the most part they're nothing but a worse versions of Equip Spells. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Roxas Posted January 15, 2009 Report Share Posted January 15, 2009 Union had so much potential, but they died after...Force of the Breaker, I think. Wasn't Spirit of the Six Samurai the last Union released? Like nearly everyone else on this thread, especially Pika, I would like VWXYZ to have more support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JG. Posted January 15, 2009 Report Share Posted January 15, 2009 Union had so much potential' date=' but they died after...Force of the Breaker, I think. Wasn't Spirit of the Six Samurai the last Union released? Like nearly everyone else on this thread, especially Pika, I would like [b']V[/b]WXYZ to have more support. lol. Some people don't even know the alphabet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psycho Shocker Android Posted January 15, 2009 Report Share Posted January 15, 2009 Was there a XYZ chaos deck at worlds back in the day playing more than 1 night assailant? I think that's the only time I saw them do good and the unions weren't even used for their union ability. And mabe some SS decks with spirit of the SS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chevalier Posted January 15, 2009 Report Share Posted January 15, 2009 Spirit is junk. Junk junk junk. One could've wished that it had a thousand points more statwise... ... instead' date=' we got this weakling.[/quote'] Spirit is good because it works with Six Samurai United, is +500, instant 2600 Gmaster, and is a +1 draw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iAmNateXero Posted January 15, 2009 Report Share Posted January 15, 2009 The only hope Unions have is if the officially make Arms aid a union. Outside of that, idk what to say more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Umbra Posted January 15, 2009 Report Share Posted January 15, 2009 Unions have more or less merged with the crowd. Armory Arm is a perfect example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iAmNateXero Posted January 15, 2009 Report Share Posted January 15, 2009 Unions have more or less merged with the crowd. Armory Arm is a perfect example. 1. I refuse to call that card anything besides Arms Aid.2. All hope for unions is lost at the current moment. (Also, Tuningware does not exist, I refuse to call that card anything but Tuning supporter.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azuh Posted January 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2009 I dont know why they didnt make Armory Arm (Arms Aid) a Union. Thats a load of crap in my opinion. Its got the same effect as a freaking Union. Whats so bad about a Synchro Union? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tabris Posted January 16, 2009 Report Share Posted January 16, 2009 I dont know why they didnt make Armory Arm (Arms Aid) a Union. Thats a load of crap in my opinion. Its got the same effect as a freaking Union. Whats so bad about a Synchro Union? The same thing about feedin' dead horses, perhaps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted January 16, 2009 Report Share Posted January 16, 2009 I dont know why they didnt make Armory Arm (Arms Aid) a Union. Thats a load of crap in my opinion. Its got the same effect as a freaking Union. Whats so bad about a Synchro Union? Union Monsters' effects always contain some variation of this at the end: (A monster can only be equipped with 1 Union monster at a time. If the equipped monster would be destroyed' date=' destroy this card instead.)[/quote'] Sometimes the destruction needs to be by battle, but you get the idea. Because Arms Aid is not a Union, it cannot destroy itself to protect the equipped monster. Because Arms Aid is not a Union, a monster can be equipped with more than one Arms Aid. Because Arms Aid is not a Union, a monster can be equipped with both Arms Aid(s) and an actual Union Monster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azuh Posted January 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2009 I dont know why they didnt make Armory Arm (Arms Aid) a Union. Thats a load of crap in my opinion. Its got the same effect as a freaking Union. Whats so bad about a Synchro Union? The same thing about feedin' dead horses' date=' perhaps?[/quote'] So your saying that theres no point of it being a Union, because Unions are a dead sub-type? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tabris Posted January 16, 2009 Report Share Posted January 16, 2009 You - and I - know Konami. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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