Guest PikaPerson01 Posted January 11, 2009 Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 Can someone explain why we need this guy banned. Is it because of the cheesy jokes that are makeable with one piece banned and the rest unlimited. Why is it unacceptable with everything at 1? With all limbs limited, a duelist is allowed only 5 cards. With head at 0 and limbs at 3, there are 12 cards a duelist is allowed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xemba Posted January 11, 2009 Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 Can someone explain why we need this guy banned. Is it because of the cheesy jokes that are makeable with one piece banned and the rest unlimited. Why is it unacceptable with everything at 1? With all limbs limited' date=' a duelist is allowed only 5 cards. With head at 0 and limbs at 3, there are 12 cards a duelist is allowed.[/quote'] So what you're saying is that it is possible to have more strategies and options with the head at 0 and the limbs at 3 than to have every piece at one. Really now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted January 11, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 Can someone explain why we need this guy banned. Is it because of the cheesy jokes that are makeable with one piece banned and the rest unlimited. Why is it unacceptable with everything at 1? With all limbs limited' date=' a duelist is allowed only 5 cards. With head at 0 and limbs at 3, there are 12 cards a duelist is allowed.[/quote'] Come on, Pika. You know as well as I do that a mere matter of numbers like that is not the real reason Exodia needs to be banned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenzoTheHarpist Posted January 11, 2009 Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 Can someone explain why we need this guy banned. Is it because of the cheesy jokes that are makeable with one piece banned and the rest unlimited. Why is it unacceptable with everything at 1? With all limbs limited' date=' a duelist is allowed only 5 cards. With head at 0 and limbs at 3, there are 12 cards a duelist is allowed.[/quote'] The real question is: Do the twelve cards have greater strategic value than the five? The answer is a definite no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted January 11, 2009 Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 Exodia is a DARK-Attribute. Its the main reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PikaPerson01 Posted January 11, 2009 Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 Can someone explain why we need this guy banned. Is it because of the cheesy jokes that are makeable with one piece banned and the rest unlimited. Why is it unacceptable with everything at 1? With all limbs limited' date=' a duelist is allowed only 5 cards. With head at 0 and limbs at 3, there are 12 cards a duelist is allowed.[/quote'] Come on, Pika. You know as well as I do that a mere matter of numbers like that is not the real reason Exodia needs to be banned. Eh, lucksack cards only exist to lucksack. Being dark means it has Dark Eruption under it's belt to bring back any card it may accidently mill. It could be any piece of Exodia that gets banned, but the head is where the win condition effect is labeled, so it seems the most logical choice to be banned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tabris Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 And how would banning the left arm not solve the problem either? Because bannin' a Level 1 200 ATK 300 DEF Normal Spellcaster is so logical. Right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xemba Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 And how would banning the left arm not solve the problem either? Because bannin' a Level 1 200 ATK 300 DEF Normal Spellcaster is so logical. Right. Let's quit arguing over which piece to ban if we were to ban one of the pieces. Let's discuss its banworthiness as a whole as that is more productive to the thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tabris Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 Fine, then. It's banworthy because it's an autowin condition that one can actually dump a whole variety of strategies upon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted January 12, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 Fine' date=' then. It's banworthy because it's an autowin condition that one can actually dump a whole variety of strategies upon.[/quote'] Come now, Tabris. You know as well as I do that permitting actual strategy is not inherently a bad thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tabris Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 Fine' date=' then. It's banworthy because it's an autowin condition that one can actually dump a whole variety of strategies upon.[/quote'] Come now, Tabris. You know as well as I do that permitting actual strategy is not inherently a bad thing. I know as well as you do that near-competitive strategies that arch their backs to get towards an autowin condition is inherently a bad thing, as well as makin' various cards suspect to banlist hankerings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~/Coolio Prime\~ Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 And how would banning the left arm not solve the problem either? Because bannin' a Level 1 200 ATK 300 DEF Normal Spellcaster is so logical. Right.Explain how that wouldn't stop Exodia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tabris Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 And how would banning the left arm not solve the problem either? Because bannin' a Level 1 200 ATK 300 DEF Normal Spellcaster is so logical. Right.Explain how that wouldn't stop Exodia. Of course bannin' Left Arm stops Exodia. Whether it's logical is another matter, one that I focus on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemniscate Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 This card shouldn't be banned. It is fine at 3. If you notice, even outside of the current Meta it wasn't run all that much. That is because with all the pieces at 1, there are better decks out there that can win faster. Keep it the way it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psycho Shocker Android Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 If you're weaker than a 5 limited card OTK you're a wimp, seriously. Hand control should also be a decent kind of decktype. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PikaPerson01 Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 This card shouldn't be banned. It is fine at 3. If you notice' date=' even outside of the current Meta it wasn't run all that much. That is because with all the pieces at 1, there are better decks out there that can win faster. Keep it the way it is.[/quote'] You seem to forget a decent balanced meta would leave a lot of cards unlimited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted January 12, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 This card shouldn't be banned. It is fine at 3. If you notice' date=' even outside of the current Meta it wasn't run all that much. That is because with all the pieces at 1, there are better decks out there that can win faster. Keep it the way it is.[/quote'] You seem to forget a decent balanced meta would leave a lot of cards unlimited. And you've also forgotten that key pieces of support were not released until PTDN, which was the time that Dark Armed Dragon started dancing the jig on top of everyone's heads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemniscate Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 I am saying that even if Tele-DaD or just DaD dies, this deck still wouldn't be top of the meta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanAtlus Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 Do not ban. It's 2 freakin' awesum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Judgment Dragon Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 Do not ban. It's 2 freakin' awesum. I LOL'd hard. Exodia is a card with the sole purpose of giving luck-sack victories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanAtlus Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 Do not ban. It's 2 freakin' awesum. I LOL'd hard. Exodia is a card with the sole purpose of giving luck-sack victories. Do you LOL at everything I say?Cause then I could be a comedian ^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Judgment Dragon Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 Do not ban. It's 2 freakin' awesum. I LOL'd hard. Exodia is a card with the sole purpose of giving luck-sack victories. Do you LOL at everything I say?Cause then I could be a comedian ^^ You're not a comedian. You need to be able to see how a card(s) is bad for the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanAtlus Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 Do not ban. It's 2 freakin' awesum. I LOL'd hard. Exodia is a card with the sole purpose of giving luck-sack victories. Do you LOL at everything I say?Cause then I could be a comedian ^^ You're not a comedian. You need to be able to see how a card(s) is bad for the game. I just don't see what's wrong with Exodia... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Judgment Dragon Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 Do not ban. It's 2 freakin' awesum. I LOL'd hard. Exodia is a card with the sole purpose of giving luck-sack victories. Do you LOL at everything I say?Cause then I could be a comedian ^^ You're not a comedian. You need to be able to see how a card(s) is bad for the game. I just don't see what's wrong with Exodia... Exodia is a Win Condition that is very easy to achieve with no real benefit for the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~/Coolio Prime\~ Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 And how would banning the left arm not solve the problem either? Because bannin' a Level 1 200 ATK 300 DEF Normal Spellcaster is so logical. Right.Explain how that wouldn't stop Exodia. Of course bannin' Left Arm stops Exodia. Whether it's logical is another matter' date=' one that I focus on.[/quote']It'll leave the game with more diversity if it's banned instead of Exodia's head. Just by a fraction, but still a better choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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