Chevalier Posted January 4, 2009 Report Share Posted January 4, 2009 What do I want from you? Nothing in the slightest. Proving my point is all I'm doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iAmNateXero Posted January 4, 2009 Report Share Posted January 4, 2009 Im trying to see your point, you still failed to deliver correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chevalier Posted January 4, 2009 Report Share Posted January 4, 2009 How clumsy of me.If you haven't realized it yet, siding SIM and LIM is good. If you don't side them because you seriously think "SIM will stop my Gyza, can't play it," then you should really stop playing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iAmNateXero Posted January 4, 2009 Report Share Posted January 4, 2009 You should take your own advice if you think playing with cards that have a great chance of hindering your strategies is pro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chevalier Posted January 4, 2009 Report Share Posted January 4, 2009 One of the best examples of this trend comes from 2008 Indianapolis SJC' date=' won by Robert Ackerman (second place at World Championship 2008). His interesting build of Gladiator Beasts packed 3 Royal Oppression in the side deck. Why? Because the field was infested with Gladiator Beast decks, and Royal Oppression could shut down their power plays. It wasn’t useless against other decks either: DAD builds were also severely hurt, and Lightsworn had a harder time going off, although admittedly Lyla makes the job easier for them. The strategy behind the use of Royal Oppression is quite interesting. It’s obvious Royal Oppression is a double-edged sword. It can hurt you as a Gladiator Beast duelist a lot more than it can hurt your opponent. The key here is timing. You need to activate Royal Oppression when it’s going to hurt your opponent the most. For instance, when your opponent is building up for a Gyzarus or Heraklinos play. Oppression often let Ackerman get his opponent’s field empty, and then all he had to do was summon a Gladiator Beast monster like Laquari to suddenly be in a superior position: his opponent wouldn’t be able to normal summon anything to get over Laquari. It was also a good card to have after he made his power moves (like Gyzarus or Heraklinos), and then tagged out for something with high attack. His opponents’ options would then be extremely limited, even if all they were facing as a 2100 attack Laquari. Oppression was a good call, and it paid off: he won the Championship that weekend. We recently saw another example of something like this happening. On SJC Seattle, Eric Ing piloted a Gladiator Beast deck main-decking Shadow-Imprisoning Mirror as an attempt to cripple Tele-DAD decks. Eric made it to the day 2 with this build with a 7-2 record that proves his deck could work even with Shadow-Imprisoning crippling his Gyzarus plays. He didn’t make it to the Top 8, but his deck is still a perfect example of how a card like Shadow-Imprisoning mirror, which conflicts with Gyzarus, can be used correctly in Gladiator Beast decks. On one of his feature matches, Shadow-Imprisoning allowed Eric to cripple his opponent’s effects AFTER he had used Gyzarus. Devastating plays that ultimately lead to his win.  The last example I want to give you is a much more widespread one. If you’re informed about the Top16 decks of the latest SJC championships, you’ll notice something about the side-decks of the Tele-DAD decks: most of them are packing 3 copies of Skill Drain. The use of Skill Drain in the Tele-DAD deck is just as devastating as the previous examples I gave you…if not more. What you get to do with this card in the deck is very interesting. First, note that one of Tele-DAD’s favourite choice synchro is unaffected by Skill Drain: Stardust Dragon. Since tributing it is a cost, it will resolve in the graveyard, so Skill Drain cannot touch it. The next thing to notice is that Tele-DAD has the ability to unleash a lot of high attack monsters on the field, and sometimes their effects won’t matter: what you want is to finish the duel fast. Skill Drain won’t deny you that, just as it won’t deny your opponent that. But if you get to use Skill Drain first, negating integral parts of the deck just as searchers like Stratos, you’ll slow the deck down considerably, and your opponent’s options get limited. But Skill Drain isn't just a good choice against Tele-DAD: it's a great choice against Lightsworn, and even more against Gladiator Beasts. A single trap card that provides protection for all 3 top decks!  Next time you’re building a deck, consider the possibilities every card might have in it. Sometimes a card can cripple your opponent more than you if you use it at the right time. This doesn’t mean you should forget synergy all together; sometimes this theory just doesn’t work with certain cards, because it doesn’t pay off to risk crippling yourself. But the best players understand that cards like these can devastate an opponent when used at the right time: stopping huge plays is great and when you play these cards correctly, you can do so and still have a win condition in your deck.[/quote'][/argument] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iAmNateXero Posted January 4, 2009 Report Share Posted January 4, 2009 You've proven that a LOLMetaGame journalist types about how pro a fools deck is and you believing every word of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chevalier Posted January 4, 2009 Report Share Posted January 4, 2009 That's not a MetaGame journalist nor is it related to Metagame.com in the slightest.MetaGame.com is only good for SJC coverage.That's a brilliant duelist, Arawn, on my site. Who is much more of a player than you are or will ever be. Forgive me if you're mind doesn't work on multiple levels and you can't run a card that at some point will hurt you.I.E., Storm could hurt you. Do you use it when it does? No. SIM can hurt GBs if you use it at the wrong time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iAmNateXero Posted January 4, 2009 Report Share Posted January 4, 2009 ITT: Glad Beast are good without Gyz. Your Logic is fail, and your Gawd Duelist is fail. Decks that have no win condition inside the deck should not main cards that slows itself down. Your speaking situational about a deck that isn't doing anything impressive in the meta, and when you do, you kill it. If you want to play an Edge with GB, Deck Dimensional Fissure. Your side deck is supposed to make your deck better suited against your opponent. Honestly, If you saw a GB deck that mains SIM and LIM with Prisma in the main, and Gyz in the extra, you'd laugh your ass off. This is no different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chevalier Posted January 4, 2009 Report Share Posted January 4, 2009 You use the cards when the time is right. It involves thinking (ahead), so it's understandable that you don't get the concept. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iAmNateXero Posted January 4, 2009 Report Share Posted January 4, 2009 Knowing what good cards are for a deck is key. It involves thinking, so it's understandable that you don't get the concept. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chevalier Posted January 4, 2009 Report Share Posted January 4, 2009 At least we no know that you don't know how play/side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iAmNateXero Posted January 4, 2009 Report Share Posted January 4, 2009 At least we no know that you don't know how to build/ play Glads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chevalier Posted January 4, 2009 Report Share Posted January 4, 2009 Play me. LolWe'll see who knows how to play Glads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iAmNateXero Posted January 4, 2009 Report Share Posted January 4, 2009 You live in Philadelphia? If so, sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chevalier Posted January 4, 2009 Report Share Posted January 4, 2009 YVD is your friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crimson King Posted January 4, 2009 Report Share Posted January 4, 2009 YVD is your friend.Is that the one that crashes every 3 minutes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iAmNateXero Posted January 4, 2009 Report Share Posted January 4, 2009 Yvd is also a system with the worlds worst Randomizer and cracked. However if you insist on dueling online, Ill play DMU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crimson King Posted January 4, 2009 Report Share Posted January 4, 2009 Never mind, I was thinking about DMU. Sorry to say this, but I didn't like DMU because it didn't save my deck recipes and glitched up when I tried dueling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iAmNateXero Posted January 4, 2009 Report Share Posted January 4, 2009 Byond is failed half the time if your system specks aren't perfect. Me, im lucky enough to own an Alienware. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crimson King Posted January 4, 2009 Report Share Posted January 4, 2009 Byond is failed half the time if your system specks aren't perfect. Me' date=' im lucky enough to own an Alienware.[/quote']Well, at least I'm lucky enough to own a computer:). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chevalier Posted January 4, 2009 Report Share Posted January 4, 2009 YVD 9.0 > DMU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iAmNateXero Posted January 4, 2009 Report Share Posted January 4, 2009 Dam, I wish you had a Net cam. Id play over AIM. What ever, Il play you latter on. I have to take my Sis and mother to work now. If you have MSN im [email protected] (Anybody can add me, just send me a message that you are from YCM) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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