Is there a point to religion?

[Bakura Vessal]

I'm sorry for all the little zelotes I might be offending with this topic, but what is the point of religion?

 

All it seems to do is cause wars.

 

I mean it's ok for them all to belive in their little fantasy and lie to themselves about a higher power, but they shouldn't complain bout it and preach it to other people, cause no one else cares.

 

I am just sick of every religious preacher on every forum i go on. (not just this one)

 

If they are trying to recruit people, they should use a RELIGIOUS forum, where people care.

 

End of rant

[Death Metal]

Well even though there is not enough proof to prove that a higher power exists there is also no proof to prove that is doesn't exist. Just because scientists/atheists say that it doesn't exist doesn't mean that they are right. I agree that it does cause wars...that is a fact that cannot be denied but to say that religion is fake is perposterous.

[-Berserker-]

I don't know why, but for some reason people needs to believe in something. Maybe the human being is the only animal that knows he will die someday without doubt, and that is scary for most of them.

[Bakura Vessal]

Well even though there is not enough proof to prove that a higher power exists there is also no proof to prove that is doesn't exist. Just because scientists/atheists say that it doesn't exist doesn't mean that they are right. I agree that it does cause wars...that is a fact that cannot be denied but to say that religion is fake is perposterous.

 

What does it do helpful besides giving hope.

 

They can belive what ever they want, I just don't like people going up to me and telling me I will go to hell if I don't belive in their dumbass god.

[Death Metal]

Well even though there is not enough proof to prove that a higher power exists there is also no proof to prove that is doesn't exist. Just because scientists/atheists say that it doesn't exist doesn't mean that they are right. I agree that it does cause wars...that is a fact that cannot be denied but to say that religion is fake is perposterous.

 

What does it do helpful besides giving hope.

 

They can belive what ever they want' date=' I just don't like people going up to me and telling me I will go to hell if I don't belive in their dumbass god.

[/quote']

 

I agree 100%.

 

The arrogance of overreligious jerks wears on my nerves too.

 

For all we know all religions are wrong and we are being ruled by a giant pink elephant with a candy cane but we won't know till we die.

[Guest PikaPerson01]

Hope. Gives people something to live for.

[Bakura Vessal]

Well even though there is not enough proof to prove that a higher power exists there is also no proof to prove that is doesn't exist. Just because scientists/atheists say that it doesn't exist doesn't mean that they are right. I agree that it does cause wars...that is a fact that cannot be denied but to say that religion is fake is perposterous.

 

What does it do helpful besides giving hope.

 

They can belive what ever they want' date=' I just don't like people going up to me and telling me I will go to hell if I don't belive in their dumbass god.

[/quote']

 

I agree 100%.

 

The arrogance of overreligious jerks wears on my nerves too.

 

For all we know all religions are wrong and we are being ruled by a giant pink elephant with a candy cane but we won't know till we die.

Thats what I have been talking about.

 

It's ok if they keep it to themselves, but if they bug other people with it, it's annoying.

[Death Metal]

Well even though there is not enough proof to prove that a higher power exists there is also no proof to prove that is doesn't exist. Just because scientists/atheists say that it doesn't exist doesn't mean that they are right. I agree that it does cause wars...that is a fact that cannot be denied but to say that religion is fake is perposterous.

 

What does it do helpful besides giving hope.

 

They can belive what ever they want' date=' I just don't like people going up to me and telling me I will go to hell if I don't belive in their dumbass god.

[/quote']

 

I agree 100%.

 

The arrogance of overreligious jerks wears on my nerves too.

 

For all we know all religions are wrong and we are being ruled by a giant pink elephant with a candy cane but we won't know till we die.

Thats what I have been talking about.

 

It's ok if they keep it to themselves, but if they bug other people with it, it's annoying.

 

Oh.

 

Well if thats the point of this topic then I'd have to agree with you my good man.

[speznats]

religion is a byproduct of the fact that humanity can not except the fact that in death there is nothing iin death but cold and darkness humanity can't compriehend that there is nothingness no god no after life no heaven or hell that there hole life is was all for nothing and no matter what they do we can not except or avoid this fact such is religion to help people ignor this simple fact

[Guest]

I'm guessing that nobody here has read Jonathan Swift's An Argument to Prove that the Abolishing of Christianity in England May, as Things Now Stand Today, be Attended with Some Inconveniences, and Perhaps not Produce Those Many Good Effects Proposed Thereby. Some of his points in "defense" of religion:

• Sure, no adults really believe in God nowadays, but fear of God is an excellent way of controlling the kids.
  
• The church forbids vices such as drunkenness, and their forbidden nature makes them all the more pleasurable when we partake in them.
  
• If the church were not there, satirists who would otherwise attack it would turn their attention to institutions that actually matter, like the government, and thus cause social instability.
  

He wrote this in 1708, so I have no idea how he avoided being executed.

[Tabris]

^

 

Crab, still can't get hold of that funking opus.

 

All the same, such defenses induce a facepalm from me. For those to be called "defenses" is a mockery of the word "defense", of logic (and common sense), of the people (especially the more credulous ones)...

 

/rant

 

Before I totally burn mine self upon the stake to which I erected.

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I don't know why' date=' but for some reason people needs to believe in something. Maybe the human being is the only animal that knows he will die someday without doubt, and that is scary for most of them.

[/quote']

 

Still, belief in a higher power does not - NEVER WILL - result in the validity of the existence of that higher power, whatever form he/she/it may take.

[Wyhe]

If there is a God, then why would there be so much evil in this world?

 

The answer is...there is no God. Life just exists in a Big Bang & there is no true meaning of life, so we end up making one for ourselves.

 

I am an atheist & don't believe because that earth-pounding question that set me straight for the rest of my life.

[Tabris]

Hope. Gives people something to live for.

 

Hope = poison (on the intellect, on... everything), especially when X is proved, time and again, to not exist.

 

People need to be exposed to the cold windy halls.

[Wyhe]

Hope. Gives people something to live for.

 

Hope = poison (on the intellect' date=' on... everything), especially when X is proved, time and again, to not exist.

 

People need to be exposed to the cold windy halls.

[/quote']

False hope, you mean...if people knows the worst, at least they will know what is coming for them.

[2sick4u]

Abolishing Religion will cause more conflict than keeping Religion has.

 

That, and Lol@AlbusTryingToBeAnIntellectual.

[Luna Lovegood]

No.

[Cyber Altair]

It's expensive to abolish religion.

[Enrise]

Bah, get over the little pansified babies who are trying to tell you that you're going to hell if you don't beleive in some crap, just flick them off and get on with your lives...

 

We don't know if there is a God, Devil, Angel, or whatever Celestial Being that has the power over us... Hell, Anybody can make up their own Religion almost, that is how we have so many Branches of the Protestant part of Christianity...

 

We can't prove there is a God, Devil or whatever, and Science can't either... Heck, if we might die, we just probably be in the same Situation as the Matrix movies... Maybe... But we may never know until the day we die, so, while your having a good time flicking overly-religious people off, and being with your friends, don't pay attention to what Religion says, because there may be nobody controlling us...

 

All we know is that the Universe was created by the Big Bang, but sometimes, I might think that Chuck Norris just roundhouse kicked God to the face...

 

[/rant]

 

~Enrise

[Pikachu]

Pikachu: I believe in Thunderism

Raichu: WUT?

Pikachu: A religion where we respect electric Pokemon, like us

Raichu: Cool

Pikajew: I'm Jewish

 

Summary: Religions are just your self-opinion.

[Enrise]

Summary: Religions are just your self-opinion.

 

That works also... [/thread]

[Wyhe]

Abolishing Religion will cause more conflict than keeping Religion has.

 

That' date=' and Lol@AlbusTryingToBeAnIntellectual.

[/quote']

Mid Easterner terrorists were supposedly fighting for their religion of Islam & they killed off nearly half of New York to do that. And you dare say that religion is harmless!

 

In monarchy Europe, the kings would like to use the church as an excuse to prosecute other people or minorities.

[Guest]

All the same' date=' such defenses induce a facepalm from me. For those to be called "defenses" is a mockery of the word "defense", of logic (and common sense), of the people (especially the more credulous ones)...

 

/rant

[/quote']

 

Lawl, taking Swift at face value. The point wasn't to defend the church; it was to attack and trivialize it. He's a satirist.

 

Or do you think he really supported eating babies?

[Bakura Vessal]

Abolishing Religion will cause more conflict than keeping Religion has.

 

That' date=' and Lol@AlbusTryingToBeAnIntellectual.

[/quote']

 

I am not!

 

I just don't get the point.

[Cyber Altair]

Abolishing Religion will cause more conflict than keeping Religion has.

 

That' date=' and Lol@AlbusTryingToBeAnIntellectual.

[/quote']

 

I am not!

 

I just don't get the point.

 

Lemme put it in words you'll understand, oh yes

 

"If you'd get your mind of Haruhi you might actually think for a second and get a glimpse of why it's not pointless".

[~ P O L A R I S ~]

 

Mid Easterner terrorists were supposedly fighting for their religion of Islam & they killed off nearly half of New York to do that. And you dare say that religion is harmless!

 

 

Not anywhere near half of New York. There's also no evidence to prove that "Terrorists from the Middle East" caused 9/11.

 

Explosives were planted at the base of the tower. How'd they get there? Jet fuel doesn't burn at a high enough temperature to burn down the material which constructed the Twin Towers, it was the explosives at the base. It was a huge frame-up on the American Government's part to frame-up the Middle East so people wouldn't object if they "responded" by blasting Middle Eastern countries like Afghanistan and Iraq for oil.

 

As for whether or not religion is harmless, religion in itself is just a set of beliefs for which people can live by, which isn't the direct cause of wars and death. The cause of the wars and death due to religion is conflicts of religions. It's when people decide "your beliefs are different from mine, so you're a bad person and should be killed" about other people. If they just stuck to their own beliefs and lived by them it wouldn't be a problem, it's the disagreement of beliefs which people use to label people as wrong with that's the cause of war, death, etc.

 

So just don't question others' beliefs and everything's fine, needless death can be averted.

 

I myself am an Atheist, but I respect the beliefs of others. ;)

 

To sum it up: Religion is a set of stories, beliefs and values which can be important to live by. It's fine as long as people don't question other religions and use it to make others seem evil due to their being "wrong" or "different."