Saiyan Knight Posted December 17, 2008 Report Share Posted December 17, 2008 I'm brainstorming every conceivable way to get Great Shogun Shien on the field as fast as possible. By that I mean 1st turn 90% of the games I play. I want to walk up to a TeleDAD player and say "Actually, I'mmmmmm not so sure I can let you do that." I've been looking at the attributes that it has: 7-StarFire-AttributeWarrior-TypeCan be Special SummonedCan be Normal SummonedAttack 2500Defense 2400Six Samurai Theme These give it a form of interaction with many cards, including: Tribute Doll [Level 7]Herald of Creation [Level 7]Mausoleum of the Emperor [Level 7]Flame Ruler [Fire-Attribute]Warrior Returning Alive [Warrior-Type]Non-Search-Enabled [Attack/Defense]Scrolls of the Six Samurai [six Samurai Theme] Just to name a few. The fact that it can't be searched is what kills me most. I've been wracking my brain over this, and I don't necessarily want to build a fast Six Samurai deck for it, though it would be nice, but rather just ANY deck that will allow it. I want results. Mausoleum and Terraforming look to be the most consistent way of doing things at the moment, with Foolish Burial and Herald of Creation/Warrior Returning Alive as the primary search engine for him. Tribute Doll with Spell Striker and Reinforcement of the Army also caught my attention. I wouldn't be able to take advantage of his built-in protection outside of a Six Samurai deck, and that makes me unhappy, but when you actually think about what spot-removal TeleDAD actually has without being able to go crazy with Dark Armed, it's not much. I know that the key to ripping apart a TeleDAD deck is to take away it's Spells. The deck has NO late-game options, and if you take away the spells, it has no early-game either. Anti-Spell Fragrance was good supplement for the strategy of taking away their Spells, but the fact of the matter is that it hinders you as well, and if Dark Armed comes out, they'll be killing everything BUT Anti-Spell so that you can't top-deck an answer to Dark Armed. It's a scary environment. This will become a deck-thread as the idea evolves and takes shape. So far, this is what I have, and the ONLY solidified part is the Great Shogun Shien. Everything else is merely an idea. Thanks for your time, guys. Monsters-3x Great Shogun Shien2x Herald of Creation3x Spell Striker Spells-2x Foolish Burial3x Mausoleum of the Emperor3x Reinforcement of the Army1x Terraforming3x Tribute Doll3x The Warrior Returning Alive Traps- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbdnate Posted December 17, 2008 Report Share Posted December 17, 2008 hmm... im not sure if i like this or not... soul exchange could be a viable way of of getting rid of big monsters and making it easier to summon shien... dont know if the turn of not attacking is worth it though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saiyan Knight Posted December 17, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 17, 2008 No no no, that's too slow. By the time I can use Soul Exchange, they're already summoning big Synchro monsters. The turn of not attacking doesn't mean anything; I can't attack on my first turn anyway. Shien just needs to come out as fast as possible and tell TeleDAD not to use any Spells. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tekken Ham Posted December 18, 2008 Report Share Posted December 18, 2008 Frankly, I like the WRA thing. Lightsworn/Milling can net you your Shein and WRA can give it back to you. Herald of Creation also gives this strategy consistency. I'm not to sure on Mausoleum because dropping 2000 LP seems a tad steep, but I guess in a format where Solemn seldom sees any plays, it could work. LS stuff can definitely be an asset to this deck, as you have Charges and stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemniscate Posted December 18, 2008 Report Share Posted December 18, 2008 hm.... maybe put in cards to increase draw power. make it something along those lines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zelda_tp_fan Posted December 18, 2008 Report Share Posted December 18, 2008 Reasoning/Monster Gate? Even at 1, they both could help the deck out... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SephirothKirby Posted December 18, 2008 Report Share Posted December 18, 2008 Uhhh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonisanoob Posted December 18, 2008 Report Share Posted December 18, 2008 wow scrols is good comboed with double edged sword tequnique Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tabris Posted December 18, 2008 Report Share Posted December 18, 2008 ... uh, play it in Six Samurai? Not to sound like a downer and all, but SS got United, Scrolls... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saiyan Knight Posted December 18, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 18, 2008 Yes, United that does nothing to actually "Search" Shien, and a card that's OCG only right now that needs to be played on the second turn or later. I know that Six Samurai is an efficient use of Shien, but I'm not looking for mere efficiency. I'm looking for OPTIMUM performance and speed. @Everyone: Thanks for your suggestions, you guys. I appreciate you looking over this with me. @Ton: It's a lot slower, but I KNOW, right? Especially for grabbing Yaichi and something else first to shoot at their backrow? I really like it. If it didn't take so long to set up, it would be my favorite combo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Lightning Posted December 18, 2008 Report Share Posted December 18, 2008 wow scrols is good comboed with double edged sword tequnique I was brainstorming possible combos with it and its truly ridiculous.ç Also, Some Lightsworns, with Recharge and MAYBE Charge(don know if it would be worth it there) Along with herald of creation and it makes a reverse toolbox. Also, Lightsworns and Herald are light so Honest is possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saiyan Knight Posted December 18, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 18, 2008 wow scrols is good comboed with double edged sword tequnique I was brainstorming possible combos with it and its truly ridiculous.ç Also' date=' Some Lightsworns, with Recharge and MAYBE Charge(don know if it would be worth it there) Along with herald of creation and it makes a reverse toolbox. Also, Lightsworns and Herald are light so Honest is possible.[/quote'] That's true, but Lightsworn mill in the End Phase, so it would be pretty unlikely to summon Shien with the milling on Turn 1. That was my only turn-off to the idea. I did think about it though. Charge would be viable to get Shien in the Graveyard fast. Maybe just a whole deck around Lightsworn, retrofit to handle Shien and Herald? Maybe even Card of Safe Return with Lyla? I would need something to ensure I didn't deck out while I was driving the game into the mid-game and late-game stages for TeleDAD. Maybe Pot of Avarice, since I don't have a Judgment Dragon to worry about anyway? I'm not sure. =/ There are all ideas worth testing right now. Thank you for your input, Thunder. =3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Lightning Posted December 18, 2008 Report Share Posted December 18, 2008 The Creator coupled with Reasoning? Its also another Herald and honest Target. Also, youre welcome =3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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