sbdnate Posted December 8, 2008 Report Share Posted December 8, 2008 41 193x z master3x mezuki3x plague spreader2x poc2x kokki2x norleras1x lyla1x il blud2x goblin zombie 183x allure2x cosr1x card destruction2x hand destruction1x monster reborn3x book of life1x storm1x trunade2x BftDD2x foolish 43x solemn1x tt extra deck:15 generic cards i like norleras and it seemed like it could be a really annoying tech in zombies... thoughts? rate/fix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Akira Posted December 8, 2008 Report Share Posted December 8, 2008 I <3 this deck, wipe field and hand with Norleras then swarm like fcuk with Mezukis =] As Toni pointed out to me, Hand Destruction works well with Norleras, since you can speed up the ditching of your Zombies and cycle through dead cards, and the loss of card advantage will mean nothing once you've reset with PoC>Norleras. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbdnate Posted December 8, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 8, 2008 i thought about hand destruction but i dont know what to take out... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akira Posted December 8, 2008 Report Share Posted December 8, 2008 You could go down the Despair from the Dark/ Trade-In route which is more OTKish, perhaps that isn't needed in your variant because of the presence of Zombie Master and Plaguespreader, just see what works best =3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbdnate Posted December 8, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 8, 2008 i was also thinking of that to speed up the deck but i ran into the same problem of what to take out... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonisanoob Posted December 8, 2008 Report Share Posted December 8, 2008 start again then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted December 8, 2008 Report Share Posted December 8, 2008 Drop the Feathers; their only purpose is to control your Norleras draw, and Zombie Carrier already does that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbdnate Posted December 8, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 8, 2008 true... alright changed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbdnate Posted December 9, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2008 so is that all that can be done to improve apon this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbdnate Posted December 9, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2008 oh when i was making the deck i forgot about goblin zombies, wtf i know... anyway do you think i need it? edit: and i also forgot il blud... wtf is wrong with me? ... same question as before "do you think i need it?"im going to say that one il blud would be a good addition so -1 lyla+1 il blud or -1 kokki+1 il blud sound good? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Judgment Dragon Posted December 9, 2008 Report Share Posted December 9, 2008 Goblin Zombies may be worth running since they only have to be sent from the field to the Graveyard if I am not mistaken. With Norleras, you gain more hand advantage than what you would gain from just drawing through Norleras. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbdnate Posted December 9, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2008 thats why i was like "how the fvck could i forget them?" ... but what to take out... i was thinking about just dropping dad since i do want to build this irl... it would make room and make the deck cheaper... -1 dad-1 something else+2 goblin zombiesok i made a few changes what do you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saiyan Knight Posted December 9, 2008 Report Share Posted December 9, 2008 41 193x z master3x mezuki3x plague spreader2x poc3x kokki2x norleras2x lyla1x DAD 183x allure2x cosr1x card destruction2x hand destruction1x monster reborn3x book of life1x storm1x trunade2x BftDD2x foolish 43x solemn1x tt extra deck:15 generic cards i like norleras and it seemed like it could be a really annoying tech in zombies... thoughts? rate/fix Okay, well, it seems you've been caught up in the same mistakes that others make of using cards that you're blinded to think are a good thing in every case. Not the situation we're in here. Solemn Judgment is just too slow for this, though it looks good. You've be better off with Mystical Space Typhoon, Nobleman of Extermination, or, hell, even Bait Doll. Your real goal is just to clear the way for the massive attack. Setting Solemn takes an extra turn, and we don't want to leave yourselves open for even a little while with TeleDADSpreader running around. First of all, let's blanket what to take out across the board and see what room we have to work with. Your deck is quite slow for this kind of an approach. Let's strip it down to the 100% bare-bones minimum. Monsters - 10 2x Sky Scourge Norleras3x Zombie Master3x Mezuki2x Phantom of Chaos Spells - 183x Allure of Darkness3x Book of Life2x Burial from the Different Dimension1x Card Destruction2x Card of Safe Return2x Foolish Burial1x Giant Trunade2x Hand Destruction1x Heavy Storm1x Monster Reborn This is what we absolutely NEED to keep. BUT, let's increase our capacity for drawing with another Hand Destruction, three Dark World Dealings, and three Trade-In, that we'll compliment with the biggest Mezuki-enabled Zombie in the game; Despair from the Dark. That leaves us two slots for the 40. We'll put in another Norleras and a Feather of the Phoenix, for the sake of consistency. Now you have no hurdles in the way of accomplishing your only real goal as quickly as possible: Draw fast and swing in with 3 Despair from the Dark directly, ala Mezuki and Norleras. Monsters - 143x Despair from the Dark3x Sky Scourge Norleras3x Zombie Master3x Mezuki2x Phantom of Chaos Spells - 261x A Feather of the Phoenix3x Allure of Darkness3x Book of Life2x Burial from the Different Dimension1x Card Destruction2x Card of Safe Return3x Dark World Dealings2x Foolish Burial1x Giant Trunade3x Hand Destruction1x Heavy Storm1x Monster Reborn3x Trade-In Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbdnate Posted December 9, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2008 i was not going for the otk... i tried it and it did not work... i even had LS to speed things up even more through milling (i posted on gaia and i believe you commented...). btw in your build zombie master is basically useless... it can search another z master i suppose but thats pretthy much it from what i can see...http://www.gaiaonline.com/forum/table-top-gaming/norleras-otk-thing-still-fine-tuning/t.45546265_1/#1 heres the link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saiyan Knight Posted December 9, 2008 Report Share Posted December 9, 2008 i was not going for the otk... i tried it and it did not work... i even had LS to speed things up even more through milling (i posted on gaia and i believe you commented...). btw in your build zombie master is basically useless... at least from what i can tell...Oh, you were just going for Zombies with the Norleras as tech? Hmm... I can't say as I condone it. =O It KINDA is, but it's also for an alternate win in the meantime. You can use it to put a smooth 3500 damage into them early game with a Mezuki or as a shield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbdnate Posted December 9, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2008 i havent got to play test this yet so im still unsure as to how it will work out... i suppose i could try your norleras otk over mine just to see how well it works... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbdnate Posted December 10, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 bump i want some last minute fixes because im taking this to locals today... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Judgment Dragon Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 Maybe DWD over Hand Destruction. Keep in mind Hand Destruction requires your opponent to have at least 2 cards in their hand. DWD doesnt require your opponent to have any. It lets you dump a card like Norleras or Mezuki and possibly give you a needed card. Also, Side Deck? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbdnate Posted December 10, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 ... i havent the slightest clue as to what i should do for the side for this deck... i guess these will be things i will need... 1x mole1x snipe2x pwwb2x compulse2x lim1x breaker1x mst3x twister2x roar/wabaku ... no idea what im going for... i was thinking of shrink or creature swap... not sure though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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