Sea-Serpent Theme?

[Zeppeli Gyro Supreme]

What do you all think the theme of Sea Serpent monsters should become? I feel like they would make great Deckout cards, mainly because when I think of a Sea Serpent, I think of a huge creature capable of swallowing things whole, like a Deck. And I believe they used to make Tributes to sea monsters way back when, so it kinda makes sense to me.

 

You guys have any other ideas? Because we don't need even more beatstick Types.

[CrabHelmet]

Tabris suggested basing them around having effects that are activated by returning them to the Graveyard after removing them from play. Seems like as good a theme as any.

[Zeppeli Gyro Supreme]

Tabris suggested basing them around having effects that are activated by returning them to the Graveyard after removing them from play. Seems like as good a theme as any.

Well, that could be an archetype, but it doesn't make sense to me. I don't exactly associate sea monsters with the ability to come back from different dimensions dead >>

[Lemniscate]

yeah, I like the idea of deck destruction. Having the ability to destroy cards in your opponent's deck. also, maybe having the ability to control the cards that your opponent draws would work too.

[CrabHelmet]

Tabris suggested basing them around having effects that are activated by returning them to the Graveyard after removing them from play. Seems like as good a theme as any.

 

Well' date=' that could be an archetype, but it doesn't make sense to me. I don't exactly associate sea monsters with the ability to come back from different dimensions dead >>

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I don't know much about Lovecraft's work, but from what I gather a lot of it involves undead sea monster gods arriving on earth from other realms, or something of that sort.

[Zeppeli Gyro Supreme]

Tabris suggested basing them around having effects that are activated by returning them to the Graveyard after removing them from play. Seems like as good a theme as any.

 

Well' date=' that could be an archetype, but it doesn't make sense to me. I don't exactly associate sea monsters with the ability to come back from different dimensions dead >>

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I don't know much about Lovecraft's work, but from what I gather a lot of it involves undead sea monster gods arriving on earth from other realms, or something of that sort.

Well, appearing dead still doesn't make much sense. lol. It would make sense if they could bring back Sea Serpents removed from play, or something like that. Either way, don't we already have enough cards based off of Lovecraft's work?

[Guest Star]

The Deckout idea seems like a good one.

 

How about this effect as an example?

 

Servant of the Serpent King

WATER

Level 3

[sea-Serpent / Tuner] When this card destroys an opponent's monster by battle, roll a six-sided die once. Send cards from the top of your opponent's Deck to the Graveyard equal to the number you rolled and increase the ATK of this card by 50 for each card sent to the Graveyard by this effect. This card can only be used as Synchro Material for the Synchro Summon of a Sea-Serpent-Type Synchro Monster.

[1000/0]

[Megaworm]

Sea-Serpents to me are kind of like the monsters that emerge from the darkest depths to annihilate everything unfortunate enough to exist in it's path. I always thought of them being able to be Special Summoned from the deck and destroying monsters and spells without having to attack them, while being low leveled, high attack monsters. you know, 5 stars, 2500 ATK. 7 stars, 3200 ATK.

 

Riverdragon Of Phlegethon

WATER

Level 5

ATK/2500

DEF/1100

[sea-Serpent/Effect]

This monster can be Special Summoned from your hand or Deck by removing 2 Sea-Serpent-Type Monsters in your graveyard from play. When this monster attacks, the opponent sends 2 cards at the top of their deck at the end of the Damage Step.

[Zeppeli Gyro Supreme]

I already started making a Written Card set based upon this theme idea, but the draft I saved didn't appear... I guess I might have to write them all over again :/

[Megaworm]

that must suck, and a written card set based on what idea? S.Sing out of the deck or devouring the deck?

[Lazer Yoshi]

It would be nice to see Sea Serpents become more Popular, along with Reptiles. Maybe a Sea Serpent Swarm or Stall. I dunno, I just want more Sea Serpents!

[tonisanoob]

i say sea serpents much liek levia dragon that have broken effects when alo is on the feild ;)

[Tabris]

Tabris suggested basing them around having effects that are activated by returning them to the Graveyard after removing them from play. Seems like as good a theme as any.

 

Well' date=' that could be an archetype, but it doesn't make sense to me. I don't exactly associate sea monsters with the ability to come back from different dimensions dead >>

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I don't know much about Lovecraft's work, but from what I gather a lot of it involves undead sea monster gods arriving on earth from other realms, or something of that sort.

Well, appearing dead still doesn't make much sense. lol. It would make sense if they could bring back Sea Serpents removed from play, or something like that. Either way, don't we already have enough cards based off of Lovecraft's work?

 

Lovecraft? No, not from him - I've never read read an iota from the man! Blame Melville and his ruthless speculatin'!

 

And even without the inspiration, methinks such a foray into literally uncharted territory is overdue.

[Megaworm]

Tabris suggested basing them around having effects that are activated by returning them to the Graveyard after removing them from play. Seems like as good a theme as any.

 

Well' date=' that could be an archetype, but it doesn't make sense to me. I don't exactly associate sea monsters with the ability to come back from different dimensions dead >>

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I don't know much about Lovecraft's work, but from what I gather a lot of it involves undead sea monster gods arriving on earth from other realms, or something of that sort.

Well, appearing dead still doesn't make much sense. lol. It would make sense if they could bring back Sea Serpents removed from play, or something like that. Either way, don't we already have enough cards based off of Lovecraft's work?

 

Lovecraft? No, not from him - I've never read read an iota from the man! Blame Melville and his ruthless speculatin'!

 

And even without the inspiration, methinks such a foray into literally uncharted territory is overdue.

we need a cthulhu card. if not, i'm going to make one.

[The Dark One]

The problem with deckout is it will pretty much always be either too slow and unreliable, or sped up to the point where it is broken. (Via a loop, or a single card that mills 20 off your opponent's top, etc.)

 

I much prefer Tabris's idea.

[CrabHelmet]

Also, let's not forget that Konami already tried to create a Type based around milling the opponent's deck. That Type is called "Zombies". The milling plan didn't work out well.

[~/Coolio Prime\~]

Maybe effects revolving around the grave or coming back from the grave, because I associate Sea Serpents with monsters that rise from the very bottom of the sea. Like, a monster that can be equipped as a union monster to a monster your opponent controls while it's in the grave. Or a low ATK monster that has a high attack when Summoned from the grave. Maybe a field spell card that lets you Normal Summon Serpents from the grave.

 

I'm glad they gave Fish a purpose, sort of. But Serpents need one very much, it's kind of sad that the coolest type is also one of the worst.

[Professor Cobra]

I made a small written card set on Sea Serpents, I would like a Structure Deck.

[Zeppeli Gyro Supreme]

Tabris suggested basing them around having effects that are activated by returning them to the Graveyard after removing them from play. Seems like as good a theme as any.

 

Well' date=' that could be an archetype, but it doesn't make sense to me. I don't exactly associate sea monsters with the ability to come back from different dimensions dead >>

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I don't know much about Lovecraft's work, but from what I gather a lot of it involves undead sea monster gods arriving on earth from other realms, or something of that sort.

Well, appearing dead still doesn't make much sense. lol. It would make sense if they could bring back Sea Serpents removed from play, or something like that. Either way, don't we already have enough cards based off of Lovecraft's work?

 

Lovecraft? No, not from him - I've never read read an iota from the man! Blame Melville and his ruthless speculatin'!

 

And even without the inspiration, methinks such a foray into literally uncharted territory is overdue.

we need a cthulhu card. if not, i'm going to make one.

The Aliens and the Arcana Force monsters are loosely based upon these ideas. Not to mention a few other cards not related to those ones.

[~/Coolio Prime\~]

Like they would make a Cthulhu card when they're trying to make people not think this is a cultist game.

[CrabHelmet]

Tabris suggested basing them around having effects that are activated by returning them to the Graveyard after removing them from play. Seems like as good a theme as any.

 

Well' date=' that could be an archetype, but it doesn't make sense to me. I don't exactly associate sea monsters with the ability to come back from different dimensions dead >>

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I don't know much about Lovecraft's work, but from what I gather a lot of it involves undead sea monster gods arriving on earth from other realms, or something of that sort.

Well, appearing dead still doesn't make much sense. lol. It would make sense if they could bring back Sea Serpents removed from play, or something like that. Either way, don't we already have enough cards based off of Lovecraft's work?

 

Lovecraft? No, not from him - I've never read read an iota from the man! Blame Melville and his ruthless speculatin'!

 

And even without the inspiration, methinks such a foray into literally uncharted territory is overdue.

we need a cthulhu card. if not, i'm going to make one.

The Aliens and the Arcana Force monsters are loosely based upon these ideas. Not to mention a few other cards not related to those ones.

 

Lolwiki says the Aliens are based on two specific conspiracy theories, and the Arcana Force monsters don't really look like space fish god things.

[Zeppeli Gyro Supreme]

Tabris suggested basing them around having effects that are activated by returning them to the Graveyard after removing them from play. Seems like as good a theme as any.

 

Well' date=' that could be an archetype, but it doesn't make sense to me. I don't exactly associate sea monsters with the ability to come back from different dimensions dead >>

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I don't know much about Lovecraft's work, but from what I gather a lot of it involves undead sea monster gods arriving on earth from other realms, or something of that sort.

Well, appearing dead still doesn't make much sense. lol. It would make sense if they could bring back Sea Serpents removed from play, or something like that. Either way, don't we already have enough cards based off of Lovecraft's work?

 

Lovecraft? No, not from him - I've never read read an iota from the man! Blame Melville and his ruthless speculatin'!

 

And even without the inspiration, methinks such a foray into literally uncharted territory is overdue.

we need a cthulhu card. if not, i'm going to make one.

The Aliens and the Arcana Force monsters are loosely based upon these ideas. Not to mention a few other cards not related to those ones.

 

Lolwiki says the Aliens are based on two specific conspiracy theories, and the Arcana Force monsters don't really look like space fish god things.

You don't read well, do ya? "Loosely" means not directly in the sense that I used. And yes, they actually sort of do. And I remember reading on one or more of the Aliens that they were based off of something to do with the subject. Cosmic Horror, I believe was one of them.

[Xemba]

Perhaps they could have a variety of effects based on the number of cards in your hand.

 

0-2 Meh Effect

3-5 Above Average Effect

6+ Amazing Effect

 

and their support could be cards that allow you to change which effect it has for a price,

or

to 'fake' the number of cards in your hand by like +1 via a Field Spell of some sort.

[CrabHelmet]

Tabris suggested basing them around having effects that are activated by returning them to the Graveyard after removing them from play. Seems like as good a theme as any.

 

Well' date=' that could be an archetype, but it doesn't make sense to me. I don't exactly associate sea monsters with the ability to come back from different dimensions dead >>

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I don't know much about Lovecraft's work, but from what I gather a lot of it involves undead sea monster gods arriving on earth from other realms, or something of that sort.

Well, appearing dead still doesn't make much sense. lol. It would make sense if they could bring back Sea Serpents removed from play, or something like that. Either way, don't we already have enough cards based off of Lovecraft's work?

 

Lovecraft? No, not from him - I've never read read an iota from the man! Blame Melville and his ruthless speculatin'!

 

And even without the inspiration, methinks such a foray into literally uncharted territory is overdue.

we need a cthulhu card. if not, i'm going to make one.

The Aliens and the Arcana Force monsters are loosely based upon these ideas. Not to mention a few other cards not related to those ones.

 

Lolwiki says the Aliens are based on two specific conspiracy theories, and the Arcana Force monsters don't really look like space fish god things.

You don't read well, do ya?

 

o yea well ur ugly burn

 

"Loosely" means not directly in the sense that I used.

 

The fact that they are directly based on something else means that any Lovecraftian influence exists simply because it influenced those two theories.

 

And yes' date=' they actually sort of do.

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I'm not seeing it. >_> They always looked like Machines to me.

 

It doesn't exactly help that Lovecraft always avoids describing his fish gods by calling them indescribable.

 

And I remember reading on one or more of the Aliens that they were based off of something to do with the subject. Cosmic Horror' date=' I believe was one of them.

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Ah, I forgot about the Cosmics. Those certainly do have a Lovecraftian influence.

[Zeppeli Gyro Supreme]

Apparently there is something in Lovecraft's novels that look like they're machines too, because Chariot is noted as being from the book as something. Too lazy to look it up, though.