CrabHelmet Posted November 21, 2008 Report Share Posted November 21, 2008 Negafrog hurts my head. Besides' date=' how would that be a 2-card match win? Please explain.[/quote'] Assuming Negafrog's effect somehow works, you could just put Negafrog in your Extra Deck, allowing you to run Treeborn. Normal Summon Treeborn, then activate Creature Swap, switching Treeborn to your opponent's side of the field. If the opponent's Extra Deck doesn't contain Negafrog, then the opponent will instantly lose by Negafrog's effect...somehow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~/Coolio Prime\~ Posted November 21, 2008 Report Share Posted November 21, 2008 No, because everyone could just use a Negafrog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aximil Posted November 21, 2008 Report Share Posted November 21, 2008 Negafrog hurts my head. Besides' date=' how would that be a 2-card match win? Please explain.[/quote'] Assuming Negafrog's effect somehow works, you could just put Negafrog in your Extra Deck, allowing you to run Treeborn. Normal Summon Treeborn, then activate Creature Swap, switching Treeborn to your opponent's side of the field. If the opponent's Extra Deck doesn't contain Negafrog, then the opponent will instantly lose by Negafrog's effect...somehow. The only way Negafrog's effect would work is if it isn't even in the game. Plus, if someone wasn't using him, anyone using a Treeborn Frog would instantly lose. That's what it's effect looks like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted November 21, 2008 Report Share Posted November 21, 2008 No' date=' because everyone could just use a Negafrog.[/quote'] Then the net result of releasing Negafrog would be to give us a new vanilla "Frog" monster and to reduce the Extra Deck size limit from 15 to 14. Banning Treeborn is preferable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chaos Pudding Posted November 21, 2008 Report Share Posted November 21, 2008 I changed it so the owner of Treeborn Frog would lose the Match. Now I just have to work on the wording so that Creature Swap is totally ineffective.Negafrog(Level 6/WATER/2800/0)[Aqua / Synchro / Effect]1 Tuner + 1 or more non-Tuner "Frog" monstersIf this card is in either player's Extra Deck' date=' Graveyard, on either side of the field, or is removed from play, both players may play up to 3 "Treeborn Frog" in their Main Deck or Side Deck, regardless of the position of "Treeborn Frog" on the Limited and Forbidden List AND the effects of all "Treeborn Frog" in both player's Graveyards and on either side of the field are negated. Once per turn, you may send 1 "Frog" monster from your Deck to the Graveyard to Special Summon 1 "Frog" monster from your Graveyard.[/quote'] Now Treeborn Frog can be banned and Unlimited at the same time. It's Unlimited in the decks that want to run 3 for the purpose of D.3.S. Frog, and it's banned for everyone else. So, in other news, Treeborn Frog should be banned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonisanoob Posted November 22, 2008 Report Share Posted November 22, 2008 i mean sure trrborn at 1 is stupid, but im sayign if its at 1 why the hell not 3 i mean apart from dd crow beign pointles against it... frog isnt used anymore (i kno thts not an excuse), andyour only allowed to use 1 at a time, the only way i can think of it beign abused at 3 is chainign econ durign your standbyphase... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted November 22, 2008 Report Share Posted November 22, 2008 i mean sure trrborn at 1 is stupid' date=' but im sayign if its at 1 why the hell not 3[/quote'] Because it should be at 0. Isn't that reason enough? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonisanoob Posted November 22, 2008 Report Share Posted November 22, 2008 yhea i kno that but if its at 1 no real reason not to be at 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PikaPerson01 Posted November 22, 2008 Report Share Posted November 22, 2008 Why do we need a card that in and of itself modifies the banlists with it's effect? Why don't we just modify the banlist?! <_< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chaos Pudding Posted November 22, 2008 Report Share Posted November 22, 2008 Why do we need a card that in and of itself modifies the banlists with it's effect? Why don't we just modify the banlist?! <_< Actually, Negafrog would want Frog to be banned on the actual list, but would have it Unlimited for Frog deck's that wanted to use 3 of them for the purposes of D.3.S. Frog. Or just make a card whose name is treated as "Treeborn Frog". In hindsight, that would have been easier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~/Coolio Prime\~ Posted November 22, 2008 Report Share Posted November 22, 2008 No' date=' because everyone could just use a Negafrog.[/quote'] Then the net result of releasing Negafrog would be to give us a new vanilla "Frog" monster and to reduce the Extra Deck size limit from 15 to 14. Banning Treeborn is preferable. Yeah, but I'm saying that the whole Creature Swap win thing won't really be that effective. Can you side Synchros? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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