ragnarok1945 Posted December 6, 2008 Report Share Posted December 6, 2008 interesting enough, yes. And many people felt Joey should have won since he only needed to stay on his feet one second longer, that's why Marik was so surprised to see him standing right after the attacl (I bet Marik couldn't have survived such a blow from Ra) Oh wait, I also forgot the one where he lost to Duke and forced Yugi to challenge him to Dungeon Dice Monsters. Now that one was more due to Joey's arrogance problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Roxas Posted December 6, 2008 Report Share Posted December 6, 2008 Joey shouldn't even had been there. Had Marik decided that Odion would seem more fearsome without even having to use Ra, Joey would have lost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted December 6, 2008 Report Share Posted December 6, 2008 you know after seeing DOTD, had Marik given Odion the real Ra, he really WOULD be able to use it, which meant Joey would have REALLY gotten burned Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cin Posted December 6, 2008 Report Share Posted December 6, 2008 Lets get this age thing correct. Joey/Jonouchi during DM: 16Sho during GX: 15-18 So Joey is not older. This topic is unfair on Sho because barely anyone who has posted here isn't a dubbie, which means they didn't see Cyberroid Vs Psycho Shocker, and keep making judgements on Roids which Sho ditched in its singular form in 163. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted December 6, 2008 Report Share Posted December 6, 2008 actually I think Joey is 17 by the time of DOTD, Cinder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Rose Phoenix® Posted December 6, 2008 Report Share Posted December 6, 2008 I think syrus is over-rated, deffinately Joey... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 6, 2008 Report Share Posted December 6, 2008 i think joey would win cuz if you think about it' date=' ounce cy is around joey is older and considered 1 of the best. and im sure that with new times and ten years or so later, joey would have a much better deck by then. but if we are judging how they are from what we saw in the episodes, cyrus would win(as much as i hate him).[/quote'] Well, despite having more losses than Yugi and Kaiba, few others have really beaten Joey before other than them: 1. Against Rare Hunter just before Battle City, because Joey did not know he was going to summon Exodia 2. Against Odion in the Battle City finals, Odion technically won because Joey's victory only came due to Marik wanting Odion to finish Joey off with a counterfeit Ra to prove he is really Marik. 3. Against Marik in the Battle City finals, although you can argue Joey should have won since Marik cheated with the shadow game and using Ra's phoenix powers. 4. Against Mai in the Orichalcos ordeal, but that was more because he suffered too much injuries against Valon already, not to mention he couldn't stand letting her lose her soul. 5. Against Ziegfried in the KC Grand Championships, relatively fair duel, and Ziegfried previaled by only 100LP anyway (besides even Kaiba had a hard time beating him) You can't count both 2 and 3 as losses. One is "He should have lost but he didn't therefore he lost!", and the other is "He should have won but he didn't therefore he lost!" Make up your mind on what criteria you are using to determine who lost. Also, you forgot him losing to Tea several hundred times offscreen. Lets get this age thing correct. Joey/Jonouchi during DM: 16Sho during GX: 15-18 So Joey is not older. But by the time of GX, Joey is about 26. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted December 6, 2008 Report Share Posted December 6, 2008 I don't count losing to Tea because that was before even the DK series, before he knew the game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bakura Vessal Posted December 6, 2008 Report Share Posted December 6, 2008 I don't count losing to Tea because that was before even the DK series' date=' before he knew the game[/quote'] Tea Leaf is dueling people in the anime? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cin Posted December 6, 2008 Report Share Posted December 6, 2008 Rag means Anzu/Tea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted December 6, 2008 Report Share Posted December 6, 2008 I don't count losing to Tea because that was before even the DK series' date=' before he knew the game[/quote'] Tea Leaf is dueling people in the anime? Tea Gardner in the anime. Joey did lose a few times to her before the first confrontation with Pegasus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Roxas Posted December 8, 2008 Report Share Posted December 8, 2008 Albus was being sarcastic if you guys didn't notice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted December 8, 2008 Report Share Posted December 8, 2008 yeah but I decided to take it seriously even though I knew he was just kidding :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soren88 Posted December 23, 2008 Report Share Posted December 23, 2008 2 answer albus, episode 164. zane is dueling with hid cyberdark deck (which screwed up hid heart) and then when he is about to surender, syrus uses his deck to finish the duel, after syrus wins, zane gives him his deck, syrus combined his vehicroid deck and zane's cyber dragon deck to form a cyberoid deck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted December 23, 2008 Report Share Posted December 23, 2008 yeah but that's not 100% his deck anymore, that shouldn't count if Syrus won that duel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soren88 Posted December 23, 2008 Report Share Posted December 23, 2008 syrus would pwn joey, but joey does have that wicked awesome dragon, what about Joey against Atticus, the duel to see who the true red-eyes dragon duelist is! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted December 23, 2008 Report Share Posted December 23, 2008 I still feel Joey is truly deserving for Red Eyes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cin Posted December 23, 2008 Report Share Posted December 23, 2008 2 answer albus' date=' episode 164. zane is dueling with hid cyberdark deck (which screwed up hid heart) and then when he is about to surender, syrus uses his deck to finish the duel, after syrus wins, zane gives him his deck, syrus combined his vehicroid deck and zane's cyber dragon deck to form a cyberoid deck[/quote'] Actually Ryo is dueling in 163, and his heart gives out, Sho steps in, but his brother is determined for Sho not to make him forfeit (He had just collapsed again, due to heart trouble), even when Sho takes his hand and moves it towards the duel disk, but after a moment Sho decides to take on Inotsume himself to defend the Cyber Style. Its 164 we get the Cyberroid deck (Ryo gave him the CyDra deck not long after the 163 duel), that blows the Psycho Style out of the water, finishing with Cyber Dark Dragon equipped with Dragonroid. After winning the duel Ryo lets him keep the deck and the two decide to set up a Pro League together. Rag the dubbies are making the judgement on his Anime Roids, not his Manga Roids (which beat LaDD and Dark End Dragon, before scumming to Light End Dragon) or his final deck of Cyberroids, which makes this unfair to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted December 23, 2008 Report Share Posted December 23, 2008 the fact remains he kept the deck and therefore gives him an unfair advantage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cin Posted December 23, 2008 Report Share Posted December 23, 2008 How does it? His brother gave it to keep because Sho could give the deck what it wanted whereas Ryo couldn't. Ryo never improved it, and could not get better, thats the main reason it joined in shocking him. For Sho though it stopped after the talk with Judai, Sho offered the deck what it wanted, so it was only right for Ryo to give him it, Ryo could see that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted December 23, 2008 Report Share Posted December 23, 2008 even if he never improved it, getting more cards for his deck gives him the advantage to get a better draw later on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cin Posted December 23, 2008 Report Share Posted December 23, 2008 Sho did improve, 164 was him stepping out of his brother's shadow for good, a shadow that he'd been forced to live in all his life, to the point he wanted to leave the DA early on. Sho more than likely took cards out of both decks, and added new ones we'd never seen Dragonroid before that duel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted December 23, 2008 Report Share Posted December 23, 2008 and what if he didn't? Wouldn't that overrate his deck? I know it's about dignity and as to why he took the cards out, but sometimes you rely on everything you have to win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saturn of Elemia Posted December 23, 2008 Report Share Posted December 23, 2008 and what if he didn't? Wouldn't that overrate his deck? I know it's about dignity and as to why he took the cards out' date=' but sometimes you rely on everything you have to win[/quote'] Dude, every character in the series has (at one point) taken and switched out cards in their deck in order to make it better. It increases the power and synergy of the deck. So what if he took out cards from both decks? If he didn't, he'd probably get a lot of dead draws - more than usual, I mean. His Deck is approximately 40 cards. Just because Sho got more cards from Ryo doesn't mean that he added EVERY one into the Deck. If he did, he'd NEVER get what he needed when he needed it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted December 23, 2008 Report Share Posted December 23, 2008 that's true, but the general form remains the same (well for Joey you have to begin from BC onwards) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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