Has anybody noticed...

[Black Rose Phoenix®]

Has anybody lately noticed that with series one, it's all like dueling is used to settle something, but in GX and 5D's, it's just a natural part of life, and litteraly everybody in the world plays it...?

 

Do you think the same?

Discuss.

[Cin]

First Series - It was rare to get a duel, still back then they gave weight behind Kaiba's titles, and it was very backseat.

 

2nd Series - It was popular, but I don't think to the extend it was later.

 

3/4 - Very centralized.

 

Any series appart from the first its always one of the we must do this to save the world....in 5Ds is more of a we must. I mean the King had to duel and was shoved aside if he failed....(poor JACK...)

[caner5000]

in the first series dueling was comeing back from the pharoes and just getting on, in the gx series it was kinda of a part of life because the school is like a camp. and in 5D it kinda dies down.

so i agree....

[ragnarok1945]

back in DM everyone does play it, but the audience was not familiar with it yet, so as a result it was made to look like only a select few play the game.

 

When GX came about, there were plenty who were familiar with this, so they made it look like everyone plays it now.

[Azure]

Yes I do think that, but you have got to atmit it does make the series more fun. ^__^

[ragnarok1945]

well that's true too.

 

You can't just BS the rules constantly just to fit the anime, but DM didn't begin to understand that until the last season or so.

[J.P]

No Rag. Hush on this one.

 

Let's get one thing straight. The TCG is not the be-all-and-effing-end-all. The game started IN THE MANGA, and then it was a slightly more fantastical version of Magic: The Gathering (with the whole Mana Cost thing removed to shorten the duels dramatically). Now, in Death-T and the previous Yuugi v Kaiba duel, the rules were a bit loose, you didn't neccesarily get 1 normal summon per turn, since direct attacks didn't exist, you got an extra monster if you lost one in the battle phase (if I understand the rules right, it seems fan-translations and Viz between them can't get an exact translation on the rules), but otherwise it stuck to the standard rules. Duelist Kingdom, though it wasn't stated in the anime, was actually an RPG game played using the Duel Monsters base rules. This why for example, Makiu raising Summoned Demon's attack by covering the field in water isn't BS, bollocks and the many other things it has been called. This is also why spell cards could be activated at any time. Battle City, seeing as Kaiba was more interested in the card game itself, used a more standard version of the game, since Kaiba's tournament was based on a real-world concept, it uses a more realisitic rule set. Since the Duel Monsters card game becomes exceedingly popular following Battle City, this is why people start using it more commonly in a standard medium, in the manga canon, the only duels of Millenium World occured because 1. Bakura was sore after having lost to Yuugi/Atem in BC and 2. Because Duel Monsters had become so popular, it was natural that it would be the modern day equivalent to sword-fighting. Of course, those are just the technical reasons, lest we forget; in the real world, the game is but a poxy card battle game, in the manga/anime, this is a game based on the ancient magical powers of Ancient Egyptians, and this is why so many things in the Yuugiverse revolve around a card battle game, because the cards played are the modern day incarnations of ancient demons and magic spells. The creatures of Atlantis were the same as the ones in Egypt, which is why Dartz fought using the game, the Seven Stars used it because of course, the Three Phantom Demons were now cards, and for the Dark Signers, once again, as evidenced by the Spirit cards and Gem Beasts, Pegasus did not just use Egyptian inspiration for his card game, seeking mythological creatures from around the globe for his game, thus, the Nazca Gods (which the anime seems to be insisting are the reason for the Nazca Lines) are also cards in the present day.

 

The reason for the gradual increase in Duel Monster's popularity across both the anime and manga is because the game is just a modern day version of an ancient form of combat used across the world, and has been popularised through the fact that the key players in this game's modern day magic happen to be extremely public and rich, namely Kaiba and Pegasus.

 

 

/thread

[ShadowshadeNecroPower]

No Rag. Hush on this one.

 

Let's get one thing straight. The TCG is not the be-all-and-effing-end-all. The game started IN THE MANGA' date=' and then it was a slightly more fantastical version of Magic: The Gathering (with the whole Mana Cost thing removed to shorten the duels dramatically). Now, in Death-T and the previous Yuugi v Kaiba duel, the rules were a bit loose, you didn't neccesarily get 1 normal summon per turn, since direct attacks didn't exist, you got an extra monster if you lost one in the battle phase (if I understand the rules right, it seems fan-translations and Viz between them can't get an exact translation on the rules), but otherwise it stuck to the standard rules. Duelist Kingdom, though it wasn't stated in the anime, was actually an RPG game played using the Duel Monsters base rules. This why for example, Makiu raising Summoned Demon's attack by covering the field in water isn't BS, bollocks and the many other things it has been called. This is also why spell cards could be activated at any time. Battle City, seeing as Kaiba was more interested in the card game itself, used a more standard version of the game, since Kaiba's tournament was based on a real-world concept, it uses a more realisitic rule set. Since the Duel Monsters card game becomes exceedingly popular following Battle City, this is why people start using it more commonly in a standard medium, in the manga canon, the only duels of Millenium World occured because 1. Bakura was sore after having lost to Yuugi/Atem in BC and 2. Because Duel Monsters had become so popular, it was natural that it would be the modern day equivalent to sword-fighting. Of course, those are just the technical reasons, lest we forget; in the real world, the game is but a poxy card battle game, in the manga/anime, this is a game based on the ancient magical powers of Ancient Egyptians, and this is why so many things in the Yuugiverse revolve around a card battle game, because the cards played are the modern day incarnations of ancient demons and magic spells. The creatures of Atlantis were the same as the ones in Egypt, which is why Dartz fought using the game, the Seven Stars used it because of course, the Three Phantom Demons were now cards, and for the Dark Signers, once again, as evidenced by the Spirit cards and Gem Beasts, Pegasus did not just use Egyptian inspiration for his card game, seeking mythological creatures from around the globe for his game, thus, the Nazca Gods (which the anime seems to be insisting are the reason for the Nazca Lines) are also cards in the present day.

 

The reason for the gradual increase in Duel Monster's popularity across both the anime and manga is because the game is just a modern day version of an ancient form of combat used across the world, and has been popularised through the fact that the key players in this game's modern day magic happen to be extremely public and rich, namely Kaiba and Pegasus.

 

 

/thread

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Exactly What I was going to say... period.

[Cin]

Don't even think that you would put the same as JP put. JP put alot of effort into his answer.

[J.P]

Come now Cin, when have I put effort into ANYTHING? =P

 

I'm just telling it like it is.

[Navras]

yes, it sounds a bit odd ofr sure, but isn't it susposed to be in the future or somthing? if so, then by that time everyone could be playing. there were already thousands in season one, why should that number not increase?