[DISC] Arcanite Magician

[Mutant Monster RAEG-HAPYP]

No doubt this is gonna get a rarity change...

 

We finally get some Spell Counter support. About time

[Guest Star]

No doubt this is gonna get a rarity change...

 

We finally get some Spell Counter support. About time

 

This will be an Ultra Rare.

 

I'd bet money on it.

[werewolfjedi]

Tempest Magician + Arcananite Magician only turns every card in your hand into one-for-one removal. That's not really worth it.

 

Especially so when you consider the possibility of having Magical Exemplar rather than Tempest on the field. She allows you to destroy 2 cards on teh field for every spell you activate' date=' while still getting the effect of the spell.

 

Which is better?

1-for-1

3-for-1

[/quote']

 

You're right.

 

3-for-1 is much better than 1-for-1.

 

That doesn't change the fact that Arcanite Magician should be banned.

 

If DaD isn't banned, which doesn't even need a tribute only a requirement, Arc is fine, since he needs a scynchro summon with spellcaster types only.

 

I'll give you limited, but not banned.

 

the jury's still out on his buster form though.

Arcanite magician/ buster

should we include his buster form in this discussion now as well?

 

heres a link just in case.

[Guest Star]

Tempest Magician + Arcananite Magician only turns every card in your hand into one-for-one removal. That's not really worth it.

 

Especially so when you consider the possibility of having Magical Exemplar rather than Tempest on the field. She allows you to destroy 2 cards on teh field for every spell you activate' date=' while still getting the effect of the spell.

 

Which is better?

1-for-1

3-for-1

[/quote']

 

You're right.

 

3-for-1 is much better than 1-for-1.

 

That doesn't change the fact that Arcanite Magician should be banned.

 

If DaD isn't banned, which doesn't even need a tribute only a requirement, Arc is fine, since he needs a scynchro summon with spellcaster types only.

 

I'll give you limited, but not banned.

 

the jury's still out on his buster form though.

Arcanite magician/ buster

should we include his buster form in this discussion now as well?

 

heres a link just in case.

 

Maybe I didn't explain well enough.

 

Any card with the name "Arcanite" in it's name is broken and should be banned.

[werewolfjedi]

Tempest Magician + Arcananite Magician only turns every card in your hand into one-for-one removal. That's not really worth it.

 

Especially so when you consider the possibility of having Magical Exemplar rather than Tempest on the field. She allows you to destroy 2 cards on teh field for every spell you activate' date=' while still getting the effect of the spell.

 

Which is better?

1-for-1

3-for-1

[/quote']

 

You're right.

 

3-for-1 is much better than 1-for-1.

 

That doesn't change the fact that Arcanite Magician should be banned.

 

If DaD isn't banned, which doesn't even need a tribute only a requirement, Arc is fine, since he needs a scynchro summon with spellcaster types only.

 

I'll give you limited, but not banned.

 

the jury's still out on his buster form though.

Arcanite magician/ buster

should we include his buster form in this discussion now as well?

 

heres a link just in case.

 

Maybe I didn't explain well enough.

 

Any card with the name "Arcanite" in it's name is broken and should be banned.

baby, you just don't like spellcasters (just poking fun)

 

and don't hate it until it actualy comes out to be played with.

[Guest Star]

Tempest Magician + Arcananite Magician only turns every card in your hand into one-for-one removal. That's not really worth it.

 

Especially so when you consider the possibility of having Magical Exemplar rather than Tempest on the field. She allows you to destroy 2 cards on teh field for every spell you activate' date=' while still getting the effect of the spell.

 

Which is better?

1-for-1

3-for-1

[/quote']

 

You're right.

 

3-for-1 is much better than 1-for-1.

 

That doesn't change the fact that Arcanite Magician should be banned.

 

If DaD isn't banned, which doesn't even need a tribute only a requirement, Arc is fine, since he needs a scynchro summon with spellcaster types only.

 

I'll give you limited, but not banned.

 

the jury's still out on his buster form though.

Arcanite magician/ buster

should we include his buster form in this discussion now as well?

 

heres a link just in case.

 

Maybe I didn't explain well enough.

 

Any card with the name "Arcanite" in it's name is broken and should be banned.

baby, you just don't like spellcasters (just poking fun)

 

and don't hate it until it actualy comes out to be played with.

 

Yeah. Sixth Sense isn't out in the TCG, but I don't think it should be banned because I've never played with it outside of a video game.

[werewolfjedi]

Tempest Magician + Arcananite Magician only turns every card in your hand into one-for-one removal. That's not really worth it.

 

Especially so when you consider the possibility of having Magical Exemplar rather than Tempest on the field. She allows you to destroy 2 cards on teh field for every spell you activate' date=' while still getting the effect of the spell.

 

Which is better?

1-for-1

3-for-1

[/quote']

 

You're right.

 

3-for-1 is much better than 1-for-1.

 

That doesn't change the fact that Arcanite Magician should be banned.

 

If DaD isn't banned, which doesn't even need a tribute only a requirement, Arc is fine, since he needs a scynchro summon with spellcaster types only.

 

I'll give you limited, but not banned.

 

the jury's still out on his buster form though.

Arcanite magician/ buster

should we include his buster form in this discussion now as well?

 

heres a link just in case.

 

Maybe I didn't explain well enough.

 

Any card with the name "Arcanite" in it's name is broken and should be banned.

baby, you just don't like spellcasters (just poking fun)

 

and don't hate it until it actualy comes out to be played with.

 

Yeah. Sixth Sense isn't out in the TCG, but I don't think it should be banned because I've never played with it outside of a video game.

 

have you played with arc?

[Guest Star]

Tempest Magician + Arcananite Magician only turns every card in your hand into one-for-one removal. That's not really worth it.

 

Especially so when you consider the possibility of having Magical Exemplar rather than Tempest on the field. She allows you to destroy 2 cards on teh field for every spell you activate' date=' while still getting the effect of the spell.

 

Which is better?

1-for-1

3-for-1

[/quote']

 

You're right.

 

3-for-1 is much better than 1-for-1.

 

That doesn't change the fact that Arcanite Magician should be banned.

 

If DaD isn't banned, which doesn't even need a tribute only a requirement, Arc is fine, since he needs a scynchro summon with spellcaster types only.

 

I'll give you limited, but not banned.

 

the jury's still out on his buster form though.

Arcanite magician/ buster

should we include his buster form in this discussion now as well?

 

heres a link just in case.

 

Maybe I didn't explain well enough.

 

Any card with the name "Arcanite" in it's name is broken and should be banned.

baby, you just don't like spellcasters (just poking fun)

 

and don't hate it until it actualy comes out to be played with.

 

Yeah. Sixth Sense isn't out in the TCG, but I don't think it should be banned because I've never played with it outside of a video game.

 

have you played with arc?

 

No, I don't play with arcs. I prefer smaller boats that aren't so big and hard to build.

 

This card should be banned, but it probably won't be banned.

[CrabHelmet]

Considering how many times people (mainly Star) have said "this card should be banned" in this topic, I'm assuming that my computer is glitching up, since the parts of the thread that contain the supporting arguments to this assertion don't seem to be loading.

[Guest Star]

Considering how many times people (mainly Star) have said "this card should be banned" in this topic' date=' I'm assuming that my computer is glitching up, since the parts of the thread that contain the supporting arguments to this assertion don't seem to be loading.

[/quote']

 

Oh right. My bad. I thought you could read the effect of the card.

 

Well, simply put, the card starts out as a Gyzarus and can turn into a DaD.

[CrabHelmet]

Considering how many times people (mainly Star) have said "this card should be banned" in this topic' date=' I'm assuming that my computer is glitching up, since the parts of the thread that contain the supporting arguments to this assertion don't seem to be loading.

[/quote']

 

Oh right. My bad. I thought you could read the effect of the card.

 

Well, simply put, the card starts out as a Gyzarus and can turn into a DaD.

 

Try again.

[werewolfjedi]

Considering how many times people (mainly Star) have said "this card should be banned" in this topic' date=' I'm assuming that my computer is glitching up, since the parts of the thread that contain the supporting arguments to this assertion don't seem to be loading.

[/quote']

 

Oh right. My bad. I thought you could read the effect of the card.

 

Well, simply put, the card starts out as a Gyzarus and can turn into a DaD.

 

Try again.

 

 

what do you mean try again? in a spell counter based deck, this guy is their verson of DaD, and that is sweet.

I want it really badly.

I hope it comes out as a tin. But it likely won't.

[Phantom Roxas]

It starts out like Gyzarus, but when you use his effect, he becomes only a 400 ATK Beatstick that relies on using Spell Counters to get stronger. Sure, Spell Counters are getting more support now, but that still doesn't change the fact that this card is incomparable to Dark Armed Dragon. It's also Level 7, which may be easy to summon on occasion, but not as much as Level 6 or Level 8 Synchros. Oh, and let's not forget that even Little City Decks can beat this.

 

In conclusion, Arcanite Magician is not banworthy. Limited, maybe, but not banworthy.

[werewolfjedi]

It starts out like Gyzarus' date=' but when you use his effect, he becomes only a 400 ATK Beatstick that relies on using Spell Counters to get stronger. Sure, Spell Counters are getting more support now, but that still doesn't change the fact that this card is incomparable to Dark Armed Dragon. It's also Level 7, which may be easy to summon on occasion, but not as much as Level 6 or Level 8 Synchros. Oh, and let's not forget that even Little City Decks can beat this.

 

In conclusion, Arcanite Magician is not banworthy. Limited, maybe, but not banworthy.

[/quote']

 

 

read more closely, its from the field, not him directly, in a spell counter deck you have much more than just him on the field with spell counters.

endyimon, pitch black, exemplar, and many more cards have spell counters on them and still could have them when he is summoned.

I have to give you the point on him alone, but you shouldn't play him outside of a spell counter deck anyway.

why is level 7 so much harder to summon? instead of tuner2+4, you just use tuner3+4. how much harder is that? (really, how much harder is that?)

[The Dark One]

Much harder here, as there is no Level 3 Spellcaster Tuner. (The best way to get out Synchros with Spellcasters is through the use of Magical Exemplar.

[CrabHelmet]

Considering how many times people (mainly Star) have said "this card should be banned" in this topic' date=' I'm assuming that my computer is glitching up, since the parts of the thread that contain the supporting arguments to this assertion don't seem to be loading.

[/quote']

 

Oh right. My bad. I thought you could read the effect of the card.

 

Well, simply put, the card starts out as a Gyzarus and can turn into a DaD.

 

Try again.

 

what do you mean try again? in a spell counter based deck, this guy is their verson of DaD, and that is sweet.

 

Saying LOL ITS SORTA LEIK DAD is not equivalent to proving...anything at all, really.

 

The Gyzarus analogy is flawed because its ATK drops to 400 and it can't tag out. A better analogy would be Celestia. However, argument purely by analogy is a waste of time, especially when said analogies are flawed.

 

DAD can be Special Summoned from the hand by fulfilling a laughable Summoning Condition, can destroy the opponent's field one card at a time without any real need for help, works with all DARKs, and has 2800 ATK. Arcanite Magician requires the player to give up two monsters to Summon, can only destroy two cards if not given additional support, has a mere 2400 ATK which quickly drops to 400 if its nuke effect is used without lots of help from other cards, and can only be used with Spellcasters.

 

A field-wipe effect is not inherently bad for the game.

[Phantom Roxas]

It starts out like Gyzarus' date=' but when you use his effect, he becomes only a 400 ATK Beatstick that relies on using Spell Counters to get stronger. Sure, Spell Counters are getting more support now, but that still doesn't change the fact that this card is incomparable to Dark Armed Dragon. It's also Level 7, which may be easy to summon on occasion, but not as much as Level 6 or Level 8 Synchros. Oh, and let's not forget that even Little City Decks can beat this.

 

In conclusion, Arcanite Magician is not banworthy. Limited, maybe, but not banworthy.

[/quote']

 

 

read more closely, its from the field, not him directly, in a spell counter deck you have much more than just him on the field with spell counters.

endyimon, pitch black, exemplar, and many more cards have spell counters on them and still could have them when he is summoned.

I have to give you the point on him alone, but you shouldn't play him outside of a spell counter deck anyway.

why is level 7 so much harder to summon? instead of tuner2+4, you just use tuner3+4. how much harder is that? (really, how much harder is that?)

 

My mistake about being able to use Spell Counters for his destruction effect, but it still only gains ATK from Spell Counters placed on it, which doesn't really move away from my main point of how it's not equivalent to either Gyzarus or Dark Armed Dragon.

 

Much harder here' date=' as there is no Level 3 Spellcaster Tuner. (The best way to get out Synchros with Spellcasters is through the use of Magical Exemplar.

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werewolfjedi didn't say the Tuner had to be a Spellcaster. In fact, the non-Tuner is supposed to be a Spellcaster.

 

Under tips, I noticed an interesting combo that might work. Summon Arcane Filo, use Instant Fusion to summon Musician King, summon Arcanite Magician, then set Buster Mode. Of course, this combo can easily be countered, especially considering the fact that Arcanite Magician/Buster isn't really good.

 

Konami actually missed a good chance to put Spellcasters (back?) on top since the didn't make this card Arcanite Magician Level 6.

 

Oh, and both Arcanite's remind me of Silent Magician.

[werewolfjedi]

everything can be countered, what exactly are you getting at there?

[Azuh]

After playing a deck with Arc myself, the monster is very hard to get out, even with the hekp of exemplar. Then if you considering to have Buster Mode on the field, these cards aint broken and require a bunch of skill to be used

[werewolfjedi]

After playing a deck with Arc myself' date=' the monster is very hard to get out, even with the hekp of exemplar. Then if you considering to have Buster Mode on the field, these cards aint broken and require a bunch of skill to be used

[/quote']

 

where do you play, I have been wanting to get the online thing, but I couldn't find it.

[Azuh]

After playing a deck with Arc myself' date=' the monster is very hard to get out, even with the hekp of exemplar. Then if you considering to have Buster Mode on the field, these cards aint broken and require a bunch of skill to be used

[/quote']

 

where do you play, I have been wanting to get the online thing, but I couldn't find it.

 

DMU

 

http://www.byond.com/games/UnknownDuelist/DuelMonstersUnlimited

[werewolfjedi]

a bit of a bump, but I want to change the focus of the topic now.

 

is this guy here better in an endymion build or a village build, and any reasons why (pertainning directly to this card if possible, but which one is better is yet to be seen since village will not work well vs another spellcaster deck)

[Zeppeli Gyro Supreme]

In a Spell Counter deck this card can be pretty good, but obviously isn't splashable. It could wreak some sort of havoc if you were running Spellcasters (I don't remember reading the Tuner has to be Spellcaster), but it would probably be more worth it just to run the thorny rose dragon.

 

It's good in a Spell Counter deck because it easily gets food, and there is no limit on the number of counters it can have on it, making its ATK able to rise more and more (Magic Seize would be very good for doing this).