Azuh Posted November 3, 2008 Report Share Posted November 3, 2008 Ok, saves us clogging the other thread. A new thread is at hand. Star thinks Mad Archfiend is better, while i think Twin Breaker is better [spoiler=conversation]... except for all those idiots screamin'' date=' "NOES! THE GAMEZZZZZZ BECOME BORINGZZZZ!"[/quote'] You could just tech Mad Archfiend in Tele-DaD decks and Scapegoat wouldn't be a problem. Mad Archfiend fails. These are better http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Twin_Breakerhttp://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Machine_Lord_%C3%9Cr Machine Lord Ur is a horrible card. Twin Breaker isn't that good either. I think Mad Archfiend is better than both of those cards. The point is Mad Archfiend could easily make Scapegoat useless for your opponent. No one has really answered the question though. How would Scapegoat being unlimited change the Meta? Wait, hang on Mad ArchfiendDuring battle between this attacking card and a Defense Position monster whose DEF is lower than the ATK of this card, inflict the difference as Battle Damage to your opponent. When this face-up Attack Position monster is selected as an attack target, change it to Defense Position. Twin BreakerDuring battle between this attacking card and a Defense Position monster whose DEF is lower than the ATK of this card, inflict the difference as Battle Damage to your opponent. If this card attacks a Defense Position monster, this card card can attack once more in a row. I fail to see how your logic that Mad Archfiend is better against Scapegoat. Mad Archfiend can take out Stratos, Laquari, and some other monsters that are used a lot in the Meta. Twin Breaker only has 1600 ATK, and it can't even take out Stratos. Mad Archfiend would be a better choice because not only could it be useful against Scapegoat, it can take out some other monsters too. Twin BreakerDARK/Warrior/Effect ATK:1600/DEF:1000During battle between this attacking card and a Defense Position monster whose DEF is lower than the ATK of this card, inflict the difference as Battle Damage to your opponent. If this card attacks a Defense Position monster, this card card can attack once more in a row. Mad ArchfiendDARK/Fiend/Effect ATK:1800/DEF:0During battle between this attacking card and a Defense Position monster whose DEF is lower than the ATK of this card, inflict the difference as Battle Damage to your opponent. When this face-up Attack Position monster is selected as an attack target, change it to Defense Position. ======================================================== Personally i think Twin breaker is better due to the fact that:• Multiple attacks• Allurable• Warrior-Type (seachable by RoTA) Star thinks• Allurable• Can take down higher ATK monsters such as Stratos etc (IF MAD ARCHFIEND ATTACKS... not Stratos) What do you think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Star Posted November 3, 2008 Report Share Posted November 3, 2008 Ok' date=' saves us clogging the other thread. A new thread is at hand. Star thinks Mad Archfiend is better, while i think Twin Breaker is better [spoiler=conversation']... except for all those idiots screamin'' date=' "NOES! THE GAMEZZZZZZ BECOME BORINGZZZZ!"[/quote'] You could just tech Mad Archfiend in Tele-DaD decks and Scapegoat wouldn't be a problem. Mad Archfiend fails. These are better http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Twin_Breakerhttp://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Machine_Lord_%C3%9Cr Machine Lord Ur is a horrible card. Twin Breaker isn't that good either. I think Mad Archfiend is better than both of those cards. The point is Mad Archfiend could easily make Scapegoat useless for your opponent. No one has really answered the question though. How would Scapegoat being unlimited change the Meta? Wait, hang on Mad ArchfiendDuring battle between this attacking card and a Defense Position monster whose DEF is lower than the ATK of this card, inflict the difference as Battle Damage to your opponent. When this face-up Attack Position monster is selected as an attack target, change it to Defense Position. Twin BreakerDuring battle between this attacking card and a Defense Position monster whose DEF is lower than the ATK of this card, inflict the difference as Battle Damage to your opponent. If this card attacks a Defense Position monster, this card card can attack once more in a row. I fail to see how your logic that Mad Archfiend is better against Scapegoat. Mad Archfiend can take out Stratos, Laquari, and some other monsters that are used a lot in the Meta. Twin Breaker only has 1600 ATK, and it can't even take out Stratos. Mad Archfiend would be a better choice because not only could it be useful against Scapegoat, it can take out some other monsters too. Twin BreakerDARK/Warrior/Effect ATK:1600/DEF:1000During battle between this attacking card and a Defense Position monster whose DEF is lower than the ATK of this card, inflict the difference as Battle Damage to your opponent. If this card attacks a Defense Position monster, this card card can attack once more in a row. Mad ArchfiendDARK/Fiend/Effect ATK:1800/DEF:0During battle between this attacking card and a Defense Position monster whose DEF is lower than the ATK of this card, inflict the difference as Battle Damage to your opponent. When this face-up Attack Position monster is selected as an attack target, change it to Defense Position. ======================================================== Personally i think Twin breaker is better due to the fact that:• Multiple attacks• Allurable• Warrior-Type (seachable by RoTA) Star thinks• Allurable• Can take down higher ATK monsters such as Stratos etc (IF MAD ARCHFIEND ATTACKS... not Stratos) What do you think I didn't even mention the fact that it was Allureable. I think Mad Archfiend is better because of its stats and its art. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iAmNateXero Posted November 3, 2008 Report Share Posted November 3, 2008 Hmmm, 0 defense, so u can R.Nightmare it. Not bad, but Rota-able during this meta is nice. Double attack is great, means multiple targets. I gotta give it to TB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PikaPerson01 Posted November 3, 2008 Report Share Posted November 3, 2008 I think Mad Archfiend is better because of its stats and its art. Attention Star: Please return your TCG Forum membership card and never return. kthnx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
werewolfjedi Posted November 3, 2008 Report Share Posted November 3, 2008 it's voldo vs. nightmare without his sword everybody knows voldo wins hands down when he has the blade, without it, no chance.(:lol: sorry, i just find it funny. I think I want to build a deck out of monsters that look like game people now. that would be fun) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iAmNateXero Posted November 3, 2008 Report Share Posted November 3, 2008 it's voldo vs. nightmare without his sword everybody knows voldo wins hands down when he has the blade' date=' without it, no chance.(:lol: sorry, i just find it funny. I think I want to build a deck out of monsters that look like game people now. that would be fun)[/quote'] lol i thought of voldo too. lol. Also, search light man as vector man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skuldur Posted November 3, 2008 Report Share Posted November 3, 2008 I think Mad Archfiend is better because of its stats and its art. and the art makes it better how???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
werewolfjedi Posted November 3, 2008 Report Share Posted November 3, 2008 it's voldo vs. nightmare without his sword everybody knows voldo wins hands down when he has the blade' date=' without it, no chance.(:lol: sorry, i just find it funny. I think I want to build a deck out of monsters that look like game people now. that would be fun)[/quote'] lol i thought of voldo too. lol. Also, search light man as vector man. search light man? never heard of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Roxas Posted November 3, 2008 Report Share Posted November 3, 2008 Mad Archfiend may have better art and 200 more ATK, but that doesn't really help. Since Twin Breaker can attack twice, it's better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bury the year Posted November 3, 2008 Report Share Posted November 3, 2008 Mad Archfiend may have better art and 200 more ATK' date=' but that doesn't really help. Since Twin Breaker can attack twice, it's better.[/quote']Why type anything other than the truth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
werewolfjedi Posted November 3, 2008 Report Share Posted November 3, 2008 Mad Archfiend may have better art and 200 more ATK' date=' but that doesn't really help. Since Twin Breaker can attack twice, it's better.[/quote']Why type anything other than the truth? can't it technically attack more than twice if it keeps attacking def mode monsters? if that's true i just thought of a great to abuse that with rainbow life and space-gate. man I'm mean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Roxas Posted November 3, 2008 Report Share Posted November 3, 2008 Mad Archfiend may have better art and 200 more ATK' date=' but that doesn't really help. Since Twin Breaker can attack twice, it's better.[/quote']Why type anything other than the truth? So why is Mad Archfiend better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sixty Posted November 5, 2008 Report Share Posted November 5, 2008 The question allotted was, "Which of these would do better against Scapegoat?" The answer is Twin Breaker, as it can deal 3200 and take down two tokens. Mad Archfiend generally is better than Twin Breaker stats-wise. Twin Breaker for '08. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted November 5, 2008 Report Share Posted November 5, 2008 The 200 more ATK is nice, but odds are it will be gone during your next turn since any monster can destroy it in battle. Twin Breaker can kill a few less monsters by strait attack but he is harder to kill when he is attacked. This goes to Breaker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkerai Posted November 6, 2008 Report Share Posted November 6, 2008 I think Mad Archfiend is better because of its stats and its art. and the art makes it better how???? It dazzles the opponent while you cheat lol but anyway twin breaker is so much better it hurts I mean really talking about attack increase about a monster who more than likely will die next urn while twin breaker, although will probably die next turn as well, will have the grace of 1600 atk while Mad Archfiend has what defense? ZERO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soulstorm Posted November 6, 2008 Report Share Posted November 6, 2008 Twin Breaker sure is way better than Mad Archfiend, and as u said before, it's easy to take him out of the deck via RotA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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