Hinote Posted October 21, 2008 Report Share Posted October 21, 2008 Now I know what your thinking......WTF?!! but you know what, it Beat the Ever-Living Crap out of 2 Tele-dad decks, yes, TELE-DAD the #1 Top Tier Deck in the TCG. So I started working on it more, the only two cards I am missing are the 2 Emergency Teleports which I should be getting by the end of the week if I can get my butt to my locals to make the trade for them other then that everything else is solid in the deck: Total:(40)8) Monsters(20):3 Izanagi3 Herald of Orange Light2 Krebons2 Psychic Commander2 Izanami2 Yamato-No-Kami1 Asura Priest1 Hino-Kagu-Tsuchi1 Yamata Dragon1 Cyber Dragon 1 Breaker The Magical Warrior1 Sangan Spells(11):2 Emergency Teleport2 Hand Destruction2 Mirror 0f Yata2 Soul Exchange1 Monster Reborn1 Mystical Space Typhoon1 Heavy Storm Traps(9):3 Solemn Judgment2 Bottomless Trap Hole2 Threatening Roar1 Torrential Tribute1 Dark Bribe Extra Deck(15):3 Stardust Dragon3 Red Archfiend Dragon3 Goyo Guardian3 Black Rose Dragon3 Thought Ruler Archfiend Rates and Fixes Greatly Appreciated!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tickle Me Emo Posted October 21, 2008 Report Share Posted October 21, 2008 its an interesting idea... however its missing some things. No Bottomless, no Compulsery and/or wingblasts, no shrink, these are all cards that are seeing major play due to synchros. -1 Smashing Ground-1 Swords-1 Dark Bribe+2 Bottomless+1 solemn. You need to try and fit the compulsery/windblast/shrinks in or synchros will eat you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShinobiDark72 Posted October 21, 2008 Report Share Posted October 21, 2008 The Extra Deck could use Colossal Fighter, Thought Ruler Archfiend, and Magical Android. Other then that, the deck looks fun, oh, and go with TME's suggestions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hinote Posted October 22, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 22, 2008 Sorry I Had a Typo in the deck I Had 1 Bottomless in their but I wrote it wrong.I made the Changes you suggest TEMO, but Although i can understand the use of more Synchros I always have a sum of level 8 exactly on the field when a tuner is involved and I basically always summon stardust period the only time I would need red dragon, black rose, or goyo, is when I need the extra attack power or the nuking ability, so adding in to more Synchros that just have the same amount of attack power as any of the other 3 variety of Synchros I have other then Stardust is just a Waste of My Time and Money, especially considering their effects dont support me in anyway unless I have a psychic on field, made so far the only time I have had those on the field is through my Emergency Teleport. I would rather waste 20$ buying a solemn for cheap then waste it buying a magical android or thought ruler archfiend, when I just have goyo, red dragon and black rose to arise to the situation... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tickle Me Emo Posted October 22, 2008 Report Share Posted October 22, 2008 BTH should only be at 2.-1 BTH+1 MF BTW you dont NEED the other options but they are very much recommended. Put them in NAO or you can be put into a corner and when you need the other monsters you wont have them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hinote Posted October 22, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 22, 2008 well that may be true but I'm sure if I put Stardust at 3, red dragon at 3,etc... I'm sure having 12 monsters to synch into, will be enough for an entire duel.... plus I originally had a mirror force in the deck, it didn't work out, it kept getting destroyed before use and was a waste of time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tickle Me Emo Posted October 22, 2008 Report Share Posted October 22, 2008 well that may be true but I'm sure if I put Stardust at 3' date=' red dragon at 3,etc... I'm sure having 12 monsters to synch into, will be enough for an entire duel....[/quote']Now let me explain this again, you dont have a lot of options, which is why you need more synchros. Why do you think all the top tier decks have maxed out extra deck? Because it works. Trust me. plus I originally had a mirror force in the deck' date=' it didn't work out, it kept getting destroyed before use and was a waste of time.[/quote'] Thats understandable in a nuking format. Then neg something else and go 2 compulsery or 2 PWWB. BTW: I would rather waste 20$ buying a solemn for cheap then waste it buying a magical android or thought ruler archfiend Says the person who spent $100-$200 a week in boxes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hinote Posted October 23, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 23, 2008 that was when I only knew Lou as my main source for cards and he only had old school when it came to new school he hogged it all to himself. Now I know people who can get me and ultra Solemn costing almost anyone else 40$ in mint condition, 15-20$ in mint condition for me, but I would rather not waste that connection on stupid Synchros that have useless effects, I didn't say I wouldn't max out the extra deck, I just said I dont want useless Synchros, I will Find Synchros that have meaning, their are at least 5 in the next set...I'm sure something will come up, take for instance iron chain dragon although his primary ability is useless outside iron chain deck archetypes, his secondary is quite the opposite, milling three off the opponents deck after infliction of battle damage, that a monster that's useful, even if it has only 2500 attack (like that's a small number on the field these days...X.x). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tickle Me Emo Posted October 24, 2008 Report Share Posted October 24, 2008 take for instance iron chain dragon although his primary ability is useless outside iron chain deck archetypes' date=' his secondary is quite the opposite, [b']milling three off the opponents deck[/b] after infliction of battle damage, that a monster that's useful, even if it has only 2500 attack (like that's a small number on the field these days...X.x). Yea cause deck thinning your opponent is pro -.-phail less plz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenzoTheHarpist Posted October 25, 2008 Report Share Posted October 25, 2008 Thought Ruler is not useless at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hinote Posted October 28, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 28, 2008 Thought Ruler is not useless at all. to psychics' date=' which i only run 4 of, and dont stay on the field for more then 3-30 seconds... take for instance iron chain dragon although his primary ability is useless outside iron chain deck archetypes' date=' his secondary is quite the opposite, [b']milling three off the opponents deck[/b] after infliction of battle damage, that a monster that's useful, even if it has only 2500 attack (like that's a small number on the field these days...X.x). Yea cause deck thinning your opponent is pro -.-phail less plz Better then having a Synchro that's about as useful as a vanilla in this particular deck... yeah I think I'll stick to the "phail" Opponent's Deck Thinner...that actually isnt as useless as a Vanilla in this deck... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenzoTheHarpist Posted October 28, 2008 Report Share Posted October 28, 2008 Thought Ruler is not useless at all. to psychics' date=' which i only run 4 of, and dont stay on the field for more then 3-30 seconds...[/quote'] No you fool. He uses that effect for self-protection, nobody in their right mind would only run TRA with the sole intent of protecting other psychics. His anti-target and lifepoint gain are what makes him valuable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tickle Me Emo Posted October 28, 2008 Report Share Posted October 28, 2008 take for instance iron chain dragon although his primary ability is useless outside iron chain deck archetypes' date=' his secondary is quite the opposite, [b']milling three off the opponents deck[/b] after infliction of battle damage, that a monster that's useful, even if it has only 2500 attack (like that's a small number on the field these days...X.x). Yea cause deck thinning your opponent is pro -.-phail less plz Better then having a Synchro that's about as useful as a vanilla in this particular deck... yeah I think I'll stick to the "phail" Opponent's Deck Thinner...that actually isnt as useless as a Vanilla in this deck... it can make many spells and traps such as compulsary, pwwb, hammer shot, smashing ground, shrink, e-con, b-con, mind control, book of moon, creature swap, D-Prison, etc. Can Stardust stop those? All of these cards are run in this meta in one deck or another and most are splashable, and if TRA is the only monster on the field as opposed to SDD on the field what hurts your opponent more? what shuts them down more? I think TRA does. Plus the fact that this format SDD is easily defeatable and doesnt have much use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hinote Posted October 28, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 28, 2008 yes but with the amount of life point I take up from Solemns alone....taking off 1000 just to protect himself, even though hes basically as good as stardust still doesn't give me enough reason to put him in, by the time I have used all three Solemns I'll be down to about or around 1000 (give or take on opponent dealing damage). so why waste more life points and possibly kill myself just to protect one guy, that probably wont even give me a win condition anyway... I understand some of the more dangerous cards this format to stardust and how TRA can stand up to them, but put it to a deck who can take the life point hit, this deck isnt big on defense and adding in a self fitting defense at the cost of 1k per use, I find that invaluable in this deck, in another deck, I would imagine it to be very powerful, but this deck, no thank you... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenzoTheHarpist Posted October 28, 2008 Report Share Posted October 28, 2008 It takes 1000 lifepoints to use, but the instant he destroys a monster you gain lifepoints that are most likely equivalent if not greater. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hinote Posted October 28, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 28, 2008 Alright, I will try running him in the deck, just to take your advice at least but if I lose Life points faster then I get them, he has to come out... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenzoTheHarpist Posted October 28, 2008 Report Share Posted October 28, 2008 Why would you take him out? You have an extra three spaces in your extra deck... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hinote Posted October 28, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 28, 2008 Because if I am Losing life points faster then I am gaining them and its because of him, I will take him out and find 3 other Synchro Monsters/3 of one Synchro and fit it in instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenzoTheHarpist Posted October 28, 2008 Report Share Posted October 28, 2008 Okay. Do you have any synchros in mind? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hinote Posted October 28, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 28, 2008 At that point just about anything would come to mind if TRA is doing really bad in my deck... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tickle Me Emo Posted October 28, 2008 Report Share Posted October 28, 2008 you know what.. i give up. Helping the helpless is just plain useless and a waste of time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonisanoob Posted October 28, 2008 Report Share Posted October 28, 2008 WTF i do not belive you simply because spirits suck and espeecially because i see your numming spirits and no bloddy creature swap :S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hinote Posted October 29, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 29, 2008 I was running Creature swap, I took it out since I never used it, my spirits stay on the field, due to Izanagi or mirror of yata, or just because I seem to never have a spirit on the field in general(Cyber dragon or Izanagi on the field) so creature swap essentially gives my opponent a higher attack pointed monster 75% of the time since my monsters dont bounce due to Izanagi's effect or mirror of yata. you know what.. i give up. Helping the helpless is just plain useless and a waste of time. whats useless, TRA only helps himself at the cost of 1k life points, how does that not qualify as useless, in a deck that takes too much life point damage as it is....I'd kill myself before he would even become useful... and plus last I checked I didn't need a TRA to stand up to to Tele-DADs at locals...so as far as my extra deck is concerned, its fine without having the extra ammo, it will survive. Now if you can explain to me why you feel the need to call me helpless when you still have not beaten me with a legal deck in any recent format as of the past 3-4 years or so, please do tell...because I'm all ears... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tickle Me Emo Posted October 29, 2008 Report Share Posted October 29, 2008 I was running Creature swap' date=' I took it out since I never used it, my spirits stay on the field, due to Izanagi or mirror of yata, or just because I seem to never have a spirit on the field in general(Cyber dragon or Izanagi on the field) so creature swap essentially gives my opponent a higher attack pointed monster 75% of the time since my monsters dont bounce due to Izanagi's effect or mirror of yata.[/quote'] Then your doing it wrong. you know what.. i give up. Helping the helpless is just plain useless and a waste of time. whats useless' date=' TRA only helps himself at the cost of 1k life points, how does that not qualify as useless, in a deck that takes too much life point damage as it is....I'd kill myself before he would even become useful...[/quote'] Then you should be dead cause hes one of the most useful cards this format that doesnt deserve the banhammer. and plus last I checked I didn't need a TRA to stand up to to Tele-DADs at locals...so as far as my extra deck is concerned' date=' its fine without having the extra ammo, it will survive.[/quote'] Every Tele-DAD deck Ive seen at locals were based off of shillings and Shillings deck is built very wrong. Now if you can explain to me why you feel the need to call me helpless when you still have not beaten me with a legal deck in any recent format as of the past 3-4 years or so' date=' please do tell...because I'm all ears...[/quote'] I was laughing for a good 20 minutes when I read that. I thought Id die of laughter. You seem to forget when I 2-0ed you last time we dueled -.- Less phail and more memory and skill plz. Here Im gonna build a tele-spirit deck either tonight or tomorrow and watch as it rapes this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenzoTheHarpist Posted October 29, 2008 Report Share Posted October 29, 2008 Hinote, did you forget that TRA GAINS lifepoints in addition to loosing them? Because you seem to think anti-targeting is his only effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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