Wyhe Posted January 15, 2009 Report Share Posted January 15, 2009 I was just thinking about Regulus being a spy in the Dark Signers. However' date=' if Regulus is Rudger, why would he even want to set Ancient Fairy Dragon free? EDIT: There's definitely something important about why Rua would be taken to Yliaster's hideout. And to remove Crow from the possibility of being the Fifth Signer, I have one thing to say: He wasn't at the Fortune Cup![/quote']The answer is...NO! Regulus is obviously not Rudger. After all, Rudger is the leader of the Dark Signers & won't help the Signers at all. Maybe "Regulus" is a title or maybe even the name of the unknown 5th Signer... Once again, I will point towards the ending scene where they show all the major characters of the show. The only ones not shown to be Signer or Dark Signer are Rex, Rua & Crow. Based on my assumptions, 1 of them should be the 5th Signer & another one may be "Regulus" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saturn of Elemia Posted January 15, 2009 Report Share Posted January 15, 2009 I was just thinking about Regulus being a spy in the Dark Signers. However' date=' if Regulus is Rudger, why would he even want to set Ancient Fairy Dragon free? EDIT: There's definitely something important about why Rua would be taken to Yliaster's hideout. And to remove Crow from the possibility of being the Fifth Signer, I have one thing to say: He wasn't at the Fortune Cup![/quote']The answer is...NO! Regulus is obviously not Rudger. After all, Rudger is the leader of the Dark Signers & won't help the Signers at all. Maybe "Regulus" is a title or maybe even the name of the unknown 5th Signer... Once again, I will point towards the ending scene where they show all the major characters of the show. The only ones not shown to be Signer or Dark Signer are Rex, Rua & Crow. Based on my assumptions, 1 of them should be the 5th Signer & another one may be "Regulus" If Regulus is the name of the fifth Signer, why would it work for AFD? Wouldn't it be working for the fifth Dragon instead? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyhe Posted January 15, 2009 Report Share Posted January 15, 2009 I was just thinking about Regulus being a spy in the Dark Signers. However' date=' if Regulus is Rudger, why would he even want to set Ancient Fairy Dragon free? EDIT: There's definitely something important about why Rua would be taken to Yliaster's hideout. And to remove Crow from the possibility of being the Fifth Signer, I have one thing to say: He wasn't at the Fortune Cup![/quote']The answer is...NO! Regulus is obviously not Rudger. After all, Rudger is the leader of the Dark Signers & won't help the Signers at all. Maybe "Regulus" is a title or maybe even the name of the unknown 5th Signer... Once again, I will point towards the ending scene where they show all the major characters of the show. The only ones not shown to be Signer or Dark Signer are Rex, Rua & Crow. Based on my assumptions, 1 of them should be the 5th Signer & another one may be "Regulus" If Regulus is the name of the fifth Signer, why would it work for AFD? Wouldn't it be working for the fifth Dragon instead?As such, we have successfully proven that Regulus is not the 5th Signer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saturn of Elemia Posted January 15, 2009 Report Share Posted January 15, 2009 I was just thinking about Regulus being a spy in the Dark Signers. However' date=' if Regulus is Rudger, why would he even want to set Ancient Fairy Dragon free? EDIT: There's definitely something important about why Rua would be taken to Yliaster's hideout. And to remove Crow from the possibility of being the Fifth Signer, I have one thing to say: He wasn't at the Fortune Cup![/quote']The answer is...NO! Regulus is obviously not Rudger. After all, Rudger is the leader of the Dark Signers & won't help the Signers at all. Maybe "Regulus" is a title or maybe even the name of the unknown 5th Signer... Once again, I will point towards the ending scene where they show all the major characters of the show. The only ones not shown to be Signer or Dark Signer are Rex, Rua & Crow. Based on my assumptions, 1 of them should be the 5th Signer & another one may be "Regulus" If Regulus is the name of the fifth Signer, why would it work for AFD? Wouldn't it be working for the fifth Dragon instead?As such, we have successfully proven that Regulus is not the 5th Signer! I'll give you that, but the identity of Regulus is up in the air. If it was either Rua or Crow, wouldn't they already know? Unless it's been wiped from their memory or something, I'd think they'd know. Rex is already helping the Signers... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyhe Posted January 15, 2009 Report Share Posted January 15, 2009 I was just thinking about Regulus being a spy in the Dark Signers. However' date=' if Regulus is Rudger, why would he even want to set Ancient Fairy Dragon free? EDIT: There's definitely something important about why Rua would be taken to Yliaster's hideout. And to remove Crow from the possibility of being the Fifth Signer, I have one thing to say: He wasn't at the Fortune Cup![/quote']The answer is...NO! Regulus is obviously not Rudger. After all, Rudger is the leader of the Dark Signers & won't help the Signers at all. Maybe "Regulus" is a title or maybe even the name of the unknown 5th Signer... Once again, I will point towards the ending scene where they show all the major characters of the show. The only ones not shown to be Signer or Dark Signer are Rex, Rua & Crow. Based on my assumptions, 1 of them should be the 5th Signer & another one may be "Regulus" If Regulus is the name of the fifth Signer, why would it work for AFD? Wouldn't it be working for the fifth Dragon instead?As such, we have successfully proven that Regulus is not the 5th Signer! I'll give you that, but the identity of Regulus is up in the air. If it was either Rua or Crow, wouldn't they already know? Unless it's been wiped from their memory or something, I'd think they'd know. Rex is already helping the Signers...Maybe it is some hidden memory that needs to be unlocked somehow. Ex. The Pharaoh didn't know who was really was until he unlocked his memories. Also, the 4 already-identified Signers were not initially aware that they were Signers until being told by someone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aelsthla-Mental Posted January 15, 2009 Report Share Posted January 15, 2009 Don't forget Rex has a hand with the fifth symbol hidden. Something is up about that. Whoever is the fifth Signer needs to have half their arm missing. And Rex needs a damn good reason to hide that arm from them! As for Regulus, it's possible that he is related to Rua and Ruka... but another theory is that he is related to Jack. Wasn't he calling himself the "King" for a while? Anyway we probably don't know Regulus yet, they way that the fairy dragon was "Sending" for him... Hang on, here's a crazy idea. Rudger was the signer at one point, but lost his arm and grew bitter for whatever reason, and became a dark signer... ...But then they'd never get all five, so that along with other problems screws up the story unless there is another big plot twist to go with it... Oh well. That's some extra rambling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saturn of Elemia Posted January 15, 2009 Report Share Posted January 15, 2009 I was just thinking about Regulus being a spy in the Dark Signers. However' date=' if Regulus is Rudger, why would he even want to set Ancient Fairy Dragon free? EDIT: There's definitely something important about why Rua would be taken to Yliaster's hideout. And to remove Crow from the possibility of being the Fifth Signer, I have one thing to say: He wasn't at the Fortune Cup![/quote']The answer is...NO! Regulus is obviously not Rudger. After all, Rudger is the leader of the Dark Signers & won't help the Signers at all. Maybe "Regulus" is a title or maybe even the name of the unknown 5th Signer... Once again, I will point towards the ending scene where they show all the major characters of the show. The only ones not shown to be Signer or Dark Signer are Rex, Rua & Crow. Based on my assumptions, 1 of them should be the 5th Signer & another one may be "Regulus" If Regulus is the name of the fifth Signer, why would it work for AFD? Wouldn't it be working for the fifth Dragon instead?As such, we have successfully proven that Regulus is not the 5th Signer! I'll give you that, but the identity of Regulus is up in the air. If it was either Rua or Crow, wouldn't they already know? Unless it's been wiped from their memory or something, I'd think they'd know. Rex is already helping the Signers...Maybe it is some hidden memory that needs to be unlocked somehow. Ex. The Pharaoh didn't know who was really was until he unlocked his memories. Also, the 4 already-identified Signers were not initially aware that they were Signers until being told by someone else. That's a good possibility. If "Regulus" were either Rua or Crow, wouldn't it have been easier for the Ancient Fairy Dragon to just say it's one of them? Just a thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyhe Posted January 15, 2009 Report Share Posted January 15, 2009 I was just thinking about Regulus being a spy in the Dark Signers. However' date=' if Regulus is Rudger, why would he even want to set Ancient Fairy Dragon free? EDIT: There's definitely something important about why Rua would be taken to Yliaster's hideout. And to remove Crow from the possibility of being the Fifth Signer, I have one thing to say: He wasn't at the Fortune Cup![/quote']The answer is...NO! Regulus is obviously not Rudger. After all, Rudger is the leader of the Dark Signers & won't help the Signers at all. Maybe "Regulus" is a title or maybe even the name of the unknown 5th Signer... Once again, I will point towards the ending scene where they show all the major characters of the show. The only ones not shown to be Signer or Dark Signer are Rex, Rua & Crow. Based on my assumptions, 1 of them should be the 5th Signer & another one may be "Regulus" If Regulus is the name of the fifth Signer, why would it work for AFD? Wouldn't it be working for the fifth Dragon instead?As such, we have successfully proven that Regulus is not the 5th Signer! I'll give you that, but the identity of Regulus is up in the air. If it was either Rua or Crow, wouldn't they already know? Unless it's been wiped from their memory or something, I'd think they'd know. Rex is already helping the Signers...Maybe it is some hidden memory that needs to be unlocked somehow. Ex. The Pharaoh didn't know who was really was until he unlocked his memories. Also, the 4 already-identified Signers were not initially aware that they were Signers until being told by someone else. That's a good possibility. If "Regulus" were either Rua or Crow, wouldn't it have been easier for the Ancient Fairy Dragon to just say it's one of them? Just a thought.Perhaps Ancient Fairy Dragon only knows that "Regulus" is her servant & is reincarnated too to help the Signers & nothing else on who he might be in this lifetime... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Umbra Posted January 15, 2009 Report Share Posted January 15, 2009 Not feeling like quoting the entire pyramid to refer to the first post. How do we know that Regulus is "obviously" not Rudger? Both of them show a clear connection with AFD: Rudger being in possession of the card, Regulus named as it's servant. Rudger is in fact, the most obvious connection for Regulus. And it also ties in with Regulus(Rudger) being the twins' father: He does have a lot of work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyhe Posted January 15, 2009 Report Share Posted January 15, 2009 Not feeling like quoting the entire pyramid to refer to the first post. How do we know that Regulus is "obviously" not Rudger? Both of them show a clear connection with AFD: Rudger being in possession of the card' date=' Regulus named as it's servant. Rudger is in fact, the most obvious connection for Regulus. And it also ties in with Regulus(Rudger) being the twins' father: He does have a lot of work.[/quote']Let me explain this one more time: Rudger is a Dark Signer, the natural enemy of the Signers. Therefore, he wants to win this battle against the Signers & will never give away Ancient Fairy Dragon to a Signer & then heighten the chances that he may lose this fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Umbra Posted January 15, 2009 Report Share Posted January 15, 2009 Not feeling like quoting the entire pyramid to refer to the first post. How do we know that Regulus is "obviously" not Rudger? Both of them show a clear connection with AFD: Rudger being in possession of the card' date=' Regulus named as it's servant. Rudger is in fact, the most obvious connection for Regulus. And it also ties in with Regulus(Rudger) being the twins' father: He does have a lot of work.[/quote']Let me explain this one more time: Rudger is a Dark Signer, the natural enemy of the Signers. Therefore, he wants to win this battle against the Signers & will never give away Ancient Fairy Dragon to a Signer & then heighten the chances that he may lose this fight. Becoming the leader of the Dark Signers might be a way for Rudger / Regulus to defy his father. Let me remind you that no one is born a Dark Signer; one becomes. Regulus became a Dark Signer to work against his father Rex, while living a semi-normal life with his wife - name unknown, another interesting thing we haven't thought about yet - and his twin children. As Rua and Ruka both have said, neither of their parents are at the house a lot. And since they've never met Rudger, they wouldn't know what he looks like. They wouldn't know that he's their father. Your "explanation" only states that Rudger won't give away Ancient Fairy Dragon easily, just like a king won't surrender his country to the first person that can beat him. EDIT: Oh, and a quick question. In which episode was Ruka's dream? The one with the battle between the Dragons and the Gods, where AFD was dragged down? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Roxas Posted January 15, 2009 Report Share Posted January 15, 2009 I was just thinking about Regulus being a spy in the Dark Signers. However' date=' if Regulus is Rudger, why would he even want to set Ancient Fairy Dragon free? EDIT: There's definitely something important about why Rua would be taken to Yliaster's hideout. [b']And to remove Crow from the possibility of being the Fifth Signer, I have one thing to say: He wasn't at the Fortune Cup![/b]The answer is...NO! Regulus is obviously not Rudger. After all, Rudger is the leader of the Dark Signers & won't help the Signers at all. Maybe "Regulus" is a title or maybe even the name of the unknown 5th Signer... Once again, I will point towards the ending scene where they show all the major characters of the show. The only ones not shown to be Signer or Dark Signer are Rex, Rua & Crow. Based on my assumptions, 1 of them should be the 5th Signer & another one may be "Regulus" Read the bolded. Rudger is obviously older than even Godwin, so he definitely can't be the twin's father. This may be a long-shot, but consider this: Crow is somewhat of Robin Hood character, who is regarded as the Prince of Thieves. In which case:Rex=Current Fifth SignerRua=Next Fifth SignerCrow=Reincarted Regulus It would just be more easier to introduce Regulus as a new character entirely though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Umbra Posted January 15, 2009 Report Share Posted January 15, 2009 How can you be so sure that Rudger "obviously" is older than Godwin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Roxas Posted January 15, 2009 Report Share Posted January 15, 2009 In the few instances that we see some strands of his hair, he seems to have very gray hair; possibly more grayer than Godwin's. Maybe Regulus could be Bommer? He does have extensive knowledge on the Five Dragons, and Jeager placed him against Rua, who was disguised as Ruka. Speaking Bommer, I have to say one thing, even though it's obvious by now. It's not Ruka vs. Rudger, it's Rua vs. D-Bommer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Umbra Posted January 15, 2009 Report Share Posted January 15, 2009 So, people who have gray hair are automatically old? And age can be measured in grayness of hair? We have yet to know if Bommer actually becomes a Dark Signer. His and Demak's relation is interesting, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Roxas Posted January 15, 2009 Report Share Posted January 15, 2009 There's also the tone in Rudger's voice, and that he implies he may even be 5000 years old. The title of episode 45 is "Combustion of Vengeance: Darkness Bomber AIRRAID". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Umbra Posted January 15, 2009 Report Share Posted January 15, 2009 There's also the tone in Rudger's voice' date=' and that he implies he may even be 5000 years old. The title of episode 45 is "Combustion of Vengeance: Darkness Bomber AIRRAID".[/quote'] Once again, voice cannot be used as a measurement of age. He implies that the Dark Signers are over 5000 years old: Same could be said about the Signers. Confirmation, pl0x. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cin Posted January 15, 2009 Report Share Posted January 15, 2009 Janime really should change to the secondary one given. The title you gave is one of the discredited ones. Since there 44 doesn't correspond with what the forum says 44 is about. 45 is 'Man With the Spider's Birthmark'. 'True Previews' say:42 - Gather! Warriors of the Crimson Dragon43 - Resolve Each Their Own! That Which is Wholeheartedly Believable ...44 - Stir Up the Divine Winds! Black Feather Arms Wing45 - Man With the Spider's Birthmark46 - The 17 Year-Old Truth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skuldur Posted January 15, 2009 Report Share Posted January 15, 2009 Here's a theory, what if Yusei's father is Rudger. The spider mark showed up when he was supposed to have died and we know that when people die/are dying then the Earthbound Gods come and possess them. So there is a possibility that he is infact Rudger. It would be a huge plot twist and might explain the title "The 17 Year-Old Truth". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Umbra Posted January 15, 2009 Report Share Posted January 15, 2009 Didn't the Spider Mark appear before Yusei's father died? As visible in the opening, with the father in the foreground and Old Momentum gone Spider-wire in the back? It's possible that he is a Dark Signer, though: Demak, possibly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skyfi Posted January 15, 2009 Report Share Posted January 15, 2009 Or What if the 5th Signer is a totally new character? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Roxas Posted January 16, 2009 Report Share Posted January 16, 2009 I doubt Demak is Yusei's father, since he supposedly holds great hostility towards the Signers. I guess he could be Rudger. Burst, the chances of the Fifth Signer being a new character is relatively low. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyhe Posted January 16, 2009 Report Share Posted January 16, 2009 Didn't the Spider Mark appear before Yusei's father died? As visible in the opening' date=' with the father in the foreground and Old Momentum gone Spider-wire in the back? It's possible that he is a Dark Signer, though: Demak, possibly?[/quote']maybe he could also be just another scientist who died during the Zero Reverse, thus seeing its powers & invoking the power of the Nazca Gods! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarbleZone Posted January 16, 2009 Report Share Posted January 16, 2009 I just watched ep. 41, raw. Synchro Halo... Yusei's deck is shaping up to become even more situational than Judai's. Honestly, he shows up with 4/5 new Spell/Trap cards in each duel that fit perfectly for whatever situation he's in when he draws them. "Domino Effect" Spell Card, anyone? :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saturn of Elemia Posted January 16, 2009 Report Share Posted January 16, 2009 I just watched ep. 41' date=' raw. Synchro Halo... Yusei's deck is shaping up to become even more situational than Judai's. Honestly, he shows up with 4/5 new Spell/Trap cards in each duel that fit perfectly for whatever situation he's in when he draws them. "Domino Effect" Spell Card, anyone? :/[/quote'] That's the Hero Rule for you...("The Hero always wins, unless a loss is needed in order to move the plot along") Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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