Saturn of Elemia Posted December 21, 2008 Report Share Posted December 21, 2008 I don't know what you're talking about the Nazca/Incan/Mayan things' date=' but let's go back to our 5D's discussion. From episode 42 title, we could assume that the Fifth Signer will make his first appearance in this episode, or maybe earlier. Who is the Fifth Signer do you think?[/quote']From how I see things, maybe the severed arm of the 5th dragon birthmark is a fake one made from the tissues of the true 5th signer! This heightens the chance that the 5th signer may be a new character. A fake arm. Seriously. No, Godwin is the Fifth Signer. If you've followed this thread for a while, you've already heard my theories, and if you're familiar with my fanfics, I can toss out the Damon Leander argument.That's not really my theory. I still think Goodwin may be the 5th signer still. But that theory I made still supports the off-chance that he is not the 5th signer. Maybe the writers were trying to confuse us...? Well, their attempt at building suspense is working! Now, we even got a potential FOURTH candidate for the Fifth Signer - Bommer. I mean, there's got to be a reason that they showed him again. They could've just left him alone after the Fortune Cup, so it's a possibility.Bommer is a descendant of the People of the Stars, the very race who fought in the last signer battle. So maybe, Bommer has some secrets involving the signers & goodwin still has his uses for him. Exactly. Maybe Godwin purposely destroyed Bommer's village to get him to come and seek revenge. If he is indeed a Signer, it would make sense that the Crimson Dragon would have come since he was in the general area of Neo Domino. Then again, your theory is also strong. Since he is a descendant of the People of the Stars, his knowledge and role could play vital to the success of the Signers defeating the Dark Signers. Either way, we're in for a heck of a plot development with him. =D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyhe Posted December 21, 2008 Report Share Posted December 21, 2008 Exactly. Maybe Godwin purposely destroyed Bommer's village to get him to come and seek revenge. If he is indeed a Signer' date=' it would make sense that the Crimson Dragon would have come since he was in the general area of Neo Domino. Then again, your theory is also strong. Since he is a descendant of the People of the Stars, his knowledge and role could play vital to the success of the Signers defeating the Dark Signers. Either way, we're in for a heck of a plot development with him. =D[/quote']For how I see it, Goodwin will not go through so much trouble with Bommer if he were really the 5th Signer. Comparing Bommer with the other 4 already-identified signers, Bommer should be highly aware of the whole deal with the signers & Goodwin won't need extreme measures or beat-around-the-bush methods for him...heck he could just tell him of the big problem & get instant help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saturn of Elemia Posted December 21, 2008 Report Share Posted December 21, 2008 Exactly. Maybe Godwin purposely destroyed Bommer's village to get him to come and seek revenge. If he is indeed a Signer' date=' it would make sense that the Crimson Dragon would have come since he was in the general area of Neo Domino. Then again, your theory is also strong. Since he is a descendant of the People of the Stars, his knowledge and role could play vital to the success of the Signers defeating the Dark Signers. Either way, we're in for a heck of a plot development with him. =D[/quote']For how I see it, Goodwin will not go through so much trouble with Bommer if he were really the 5th Signer. Comparing Bommer with the other 4 already-identified signers, Bommer should be highly aware of the whole deal with the signers & Goodwin won't need extreme measures or beat-around-the-bush methods for him...heck he could just tell him of the big problem & get instant help. You're probably right about that, but it does still raise the question as to WHY Bommer's village was destroyed like it was. I think that there was more to it than what's been let on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyhe Posted December 21, 2008 Report Share Posted December 21, 2008 Exactly. Maybe Godwin purposely destroyed Bommer's village to get him to come and seek revenge. If he is indeed a Signer' date=' it would make sense that the Crimson Dragon would have come since he was in the general area of Neo Domino. Then again, your theory is also strong. Since he is a descendant of the People of the Stars, his knowledge and role could play vital to the success of the Signers defeating the Dark Signers. Either way, we're in for a heck of a plot development with him. =D[/quote']For how I see it, Goodwin will not go through so much trouble with Bommer if he were really the 5th Signer. Comparing Bommer with the other 4 already-identified signers, Bommer should be highly aware of the whole deal with the signers & Goodwin won't need extreme measures or beat-around-the-bush methods for him...heck he could just tell him of the big problem & get instant help. You're probably right about that, but it does still raise the question as to WHY Bommer's village was destroyed like it was. I think that there was more to it than what's been let on.Boomer's village was used by Yliaster for an experiment to awaken the Crimson Dragon. (I presume it was before they realised only the 5 Signers can do that.) As a result, Bommer worked for Goodwin in order for him to provide financial aid to his village. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saturn of Elemia Posted December 21, 2008 Report Share Posted December 21, 2008 Exactly. Maybe Godwin purposely destroyed Bommer's village to get him to come and seek revenge. If he is indeed a Signer' date=' it would make sense that the Crimson Dragon would have come since he was in the general area of Neo Domino. Then again, your theory is also strong. Since he is a descendant of the People of the Stars, his knowledge and role could play vital to the success of the Signers defeating the Dark Signers. Either way, we're in for a heck of a plot development with him. =D[/quote']For how I see it, Goodwin will not go through so much trouble with Bommer if he were really the 5th Signer. Comparing Bommer with the other 4 already-identified signers, Bommer should be highly aware of the whole deal with the signers & Goodwin won't need extreme measures or beat-around-the-bush methods for him...heck he could just tell him of the big problem & get instant help. You're probably right about that, but it does still raise the question as to WHY Bommer's village was destroyed like it was. I think that there was more to it than what's been let on.Boomer's village was used by Yliaster for an experiment to awaken the Crimson Dragon. (I presume it was before they realised only the 5 Signers can do that.) As a result, Bommer worked for Goodwin in order for him to provide financial aid to his village. I think that they knew that only the 5 Signers could awaken the Crimson Dragon BEFORE that experiment was conducted, seeing as how Godwin is the 360th Star Guardian. It just wouldn't make sense that they wouldn't considering Godwin's knowledge and position. He even mentioned that when he was explaining it to Jack (and to the others later on) that the 5 Signers had to awaken the Crimson Dragon in order to seal away the Nazca Gods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyhe Posted December 21, 2008 Report Share Posted December 21, 2008 Exactly. Maybe Godwin purposely destroyed Bommer's village to get him to come and seek revenge. If he is indeed a Signer' date=' it would make sense that the Crimson Dragon would have come since he was in the general area of Neo Domino. Then again, your theory is also strong. Since he is a descendant of the People of the Stars, his knowledge and role could play vital to the success of the Signers defeating the Dark Signers. Either way, we're in for a heck of a plot development with him. =D[/quote']For how I see it, Goodwin will not go through so much trouble with Bommer if he were really the 5th Signer. Comparing Bommer with the other 4 already-identified signers, Bommer should be highly aware of the whole deal with the signers & Goodwin won't need extreme measures or beat-around-the-bush methods for him...heck he could just tell him of the big problem & get instant help. You're probably right about that, but it does still raise the question as to WHY Bommer's village was destroyed like it was. I think that there was more to it than what's been let on.Boomer's village was used by Yliaster for an experiment to awaken the Crimson Dragon. (I presume it was before they realised only the 5 Signers can do that.) As a result, Bommer worked for Goodwin in order for him to provide financial aid to his village. I think that they knew that only the 5 Signers could awaken the Crimson Dragon BEFORE that experiment was conducted, seeing as how Godwin is the 360th Star Guardian. It just wouldn't make sense that they wouldn't considering Godwin's knowledge and position. He even mentioned that when he was explaining it to Jack (and to the others later on) that the 5 Signers had to awaken the Crimson Dragon in order to seal away the Nazca Gods.Just because the organisation has been around for a very long time doesn't mean that its leaders should know everything. Even the wisest men missed out several details at times. But interesting to note that Goodwin came from Satellite, some say that he was in fact the Man of Daedalus Bridge. If so, then riding the D-Wheel over the bridge might have been that accident that took away his right arm where his assumed birthmark might be. This my get onfusing fast, so we should let the plot roll out on its own & see it for ourselves whose theory is the right one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Roxas Posted December 21, 2008 Report Share Posted December 21, 2008 I too have read about people thinking that, but I never once thought that that was how he lost his arm! WYHE, I think Saturn is trying to ask why exactly Yliaster chose Bommer's village for their experiment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyhe Posted December 22, 2008 Report Share Posted December 22, 2008 I too have read about people thinking that' date=' but I never once thought that that was how he lost his arm! WYHE, I think Saturn is trying to ask why exactly Yliaster chose [i']Bommer's[/i] village for their experiment.About the Goodwin theory, this is a 100% original plot speculation idea that I had come up with. As for Saturn's question, maybe Bommer's village is a site where the Crimson Dragon is highly associated with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luna Diviner Posted December 24, 2008 Report Share Posted December 24, 2008 I can't wait for 38 to get subbed. Oh and D-Carly? Exciting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyhe Posted December 24, 2008 Report Share Posted December 24, 2008 I can't wait for 38 to get subbed. Oh and D-Carly? Exciting.But 39 is way more exciting since you get to see the 2 legendary Earthbound Gods. I am sure that they will put in a scene when they are summoned, Jeager will freak out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jovi Siagian Posted December 24, 2008 Report Share Posted December 24, 2008 I can't wait for 38 to get subbed. Oh and D-Carly? Exciting.But 39 is way more exciting since you get to see the 2 legendary Earthbound Gods. I am sure that they will put in a scene when they are summoned' date=' Jeager will freak out.[/quote'] Hey, we need to know what they say in previous episode to make every episode "connected". And maybe Rahim only watches the subbed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyhe Posted December 24, 2008 Report Share Posted December 24, 2008 I can't wait for 38 to get subbed. Oh and D-Carly? Exciting.But 39 is way more exciting since you get to see the 2 legendary Earthbound Gods. I am sure that they will put in a scene when they are summoned' date=' Jeager will freak out.[/quote'] Hey, we need to know what they say in previous episode to make every episode "connected". And maybe Rahim only watches the subbed.Both duels in 38 only show 1 turn made by both duelists & show Arcadia Movement's "best psycho duelists" having their butts handed to them by the dark signers. Guess Arcadia Movement will be gone for good soon... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saturn of Elemia Posted December 24, 2008 Report Share Posted December 24, 2008 I can't wait for 38 to get subbed. Oh and D-Carly? Exciting.But 39 is way more exciting since you get to see the 2 legendary Earthbound Gods. I am sure that they will put in a scene when they are summoned' date=' Jeager will freak out.[/quote'] Hey, we need to know what they say in previous episode to make every episode "connected". And maybe Rahim only watches the subbed.Both duels in 38 only show 1 turn made by both duelists & show Arcadia Movement's "best psycho duelists" having their butts handed to them by the dark signers. Guess Arcadia Movement will be gone for good soon... Maybe not. Maybe the Dark Signers will take control of the Arcadia Movement after taking care of their top duelists - which brings up the potential of another Society of Light scenario. Just a theory, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyhe Posted December 24, 2008 Report Share Posted December 24, 2008 I can't wait for 38 to get subbed. Oh and D-Carly? Exciting.But 39 is way more exciting since you get to see the 2 legendary Earthbound Gods. I am sure that they will put in a scene when they are summoned' date=' Jeager will freak out.[/quote'] Hey, we need to know what they say in previous episode to make every episode "connected". And maybe Rahim only watches the subbed.Both duels in 38 only show 1 turn made by both duelists & show Arcadia Movement's "best psycho duelists" having their butts handed to them by the dark signers. Guess Arcadia Movement will be gone for good soon... Maybe not. Maybe the Dark Signers will take control of the Arcadia Movement after taking care of their top duelists - which brings up the potential of another Society of Light scenario. Just a theory, though.It will be a real pity that all those Psycho Duelists will become a midnight snack for the Earthbound Gods. It was apparently why the dark signers would even kidnap people & control their minds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saturn of Elemia Posted December 24, 2008 Report Share Posted December 24, 2008 I can't wait for 38 to get subbed. Oh and D-Carly? Exciting.But 39 is way more exciting since you get to see the 2 legendary Earthbound Gods. I am sure that they will put in a scene when they are summoned' date=' Jeager will freak out.[/quote'] Hey, we need to know what they say in previous episode to make every episode "connected". And maybe Rahim only watches the subbed.Both duels in 38 only show 1 turn made by both duelists & show Arcadia Movement's "best psycho duelists" having their butts handed to them by the dark signers. Guess Arcadia Movement will be gone for good soon... Maybe not. Maybe the Dark Signers will take control of the Arcadia Movement after taking care of their top duelists - which brings up the potential of another Society of Light scenario. Just a theory, though.It will be a real pity that all those Psycho Duelists will become a midnight snack for the Earthbound Gods. It was apparently why the dark signers would even kidnap people & control their minds Considering that the Earthbound Gods use people as midnight snacks (as you so elequently put it), imagine what kind of power they'd get by consuming these psycho duelists! With the influence of the Arcadia Movement on their side, the Dark Signers would have a much easier time converting people without interference from the Security Bureau - not to mention that it would put more pressure on the Signers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyhe Posted December 24, 2008 Report Share Posted December 24, 2008 I can't wait for 38 to get subbed. Oh and D-Carly? Exciting.But 39 is way more exciting since you get to see the 2 legendary Earthbound Gods. I am sure that they will put in a scene when they are summoned' date=' Jeager will freak out.[/quote'] Hey, we need to know what they say in previous episode to make every episode "connected". And maybe Rahim only watches the subbed.Both duels in 38 only show 1 turn made by both duelists & show Arcadia Movement's "best psycho duelists" having their butts handed to them by the dark signers. Guess Arcadia Movement will be gone for good soon... Maybe not. Maybe the Dark Signers will take control of the Arcadia Movement after taking care of their top duelists - which brings up the potential of another Society of Light scenario. Just a theory, though.It will be a real pity that all those Psycho Duelists will become a midnight snack for the Earthbound Gods. It was apparently why the dark signers would even kidnap people & control their minds Considering that the Earthbound Gods use people as midnight snacks (as you so elequently put it), imagine what kind of power they'd get by consuming these psycho duelists! With the influence of the Arcadia Movement on their side, the Dark Signers would have a much easier time converting people without interference from the Security Bureau - not to mention that it would put more pressure on the Signers.I think only Divine knows the dirt about Goodwin, so the security bureau may do something about it. Besides, Goodwin will most certainly not let the dark signers get the upper hand at things..not at any cost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Roxas Posted December 24, 2008 Report Share Posted December 24, 2008 Alright, I've been fully convinced that Godwin is in fact the Fifth Signer, but I still think Rua will become the new Fifth Signer. Chances are that next episode will in fact bring the Arcadia Movement under the Dark Signer's control. I just hope Divine doesn't die like Carly did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saturn of Elemia Posted December 24, 2008 Report Share Posted December 24, 2008 Alright' date=' I've been fully convinced that Godwin is in fact the Fifth Signer, but I still think Rua will become the new Fifth Signer. Chances are that next episode will in fact bring the Arcadia Movement under the Dark Signer's control. I just hope Divine doesn't die like Carly did.[/quote'] We'll find out soon enough. Personally, I don't think that he will. He might be made into a puppet of the Dark Signers. If he died, it might attract unwanted attention. Here's hoping that Rua will be the new Signer. (Crosses fingers) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyhe Posted December 24, 2008 Report Share Posted December 24, 2008 Alright' date=' I've been fully convinced that Godwin is in fact the Fifth Signer, but I still think Rua will become the new Fifth Signer. Chances are that next episode will in fact bring the Arcadia Movement under the Dark Signer's control. I just hope Divine doesn't die like Carly did.[/quote'] We'll find out soon enough. Personally, I don't think that he will. He might be made into a puppet of the Dark Signers. If he died, it might attract unwanted attention. Here's hoping that Rua will be the new Signer. (Crosses fingers)Divine's possible fates -Just die (very likely since D-Carly is not too merciful-looking)-As D-Carly summons her Earthbound God to attack Divine for the kill, the duel ends with Divine's Duel Disk broken. (just like Yusei's duel)-Be defeated & made into a slave for the dark signers (unlikely since D-Carly doesn't seem all that smart & I think only Rudger & Misty are actually calm enough to think about their ultimate plans) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saturn of Elemia Posted December 24, 2008 Report Share Posted December 24, 2008 Alright' date=' I've been fully convinced that Godwin is in fact the Fifth Signer, but I still think Rua will become the new Fifth Signer. Chances are that next episode will in fact bring the Arcadia Movement under the Dark Signer's control. I just hope Divine doesn't die like Carly did.[/quote'] We'll find out soon enough. Personally, I don't think that he will. He might be made into a puppet of the Dark Signers. If he died, it might attract unwanted attention. Here's hoping that Rua will be the new Signer. (Crosses fingers)Divine's possible fates -Just die (very likely since D-Carly is not too merciful-looking)-As D-Carly summons her Earthbound God to attack Divine for the kill, the duel ends with Divine's Duel Disk broken. (just like Yusei's duel)-Be defeated & made into a slave for the dark signers (unlikely since D-Carly doesn't seem all that smart & I think only Rudger & Misty are actually calm enough to think about their ultimate plans) Thoughts: Just dying - Possibility and probably most likely. Divine's Disk breaking - Very unlikely. Divine would probably still die from the impact. Yusei dodged the impact of Kiryu's Earthbound God... Slave for the Dark Signers - Highly possible. Rudger (for all we know) might intervene and explain the plot - or Carly will (somehow) get the message via a spider or whatnot to spare Divine and enslave him. This outcome would make for a much better plot development. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Umbra Posted December 24, 2008 Report Share Posted December 24, 2008 I'm still waiting for someone to Sparta Remix Carly's death. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saturn of Elemia Posted December 24, 2008 Report Share Posted December 24, 2008 I'm still waiting for someone to Sparta Remix Carly's death. LOL! I wanna see that! Seriously! Madness? THIS IS Yu-GI-OH!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyhe Posted December 24, 2008 Report Share Posted December 24, 2008 Thoughts:Slave for the Dark Signers - Highly possible. Rudger (for all we know) might intervene and explain the plot - or Carly will (somehow) get the message via a spider or whatnot to spare Divine and enslave him. This outcome would make for a much better plot development. We are not sure if Rudger, Demak & Kiryu are aware of Carly's awakening yet. (although the mark was shone in the sky says otherwise) But, they aren't shown to be interested about their 2 females' revenge plans. I think the dark signers are wrath-motivated, allowing the earthbound gods themselves to possess them to fulfill their rage. Since Divine killed Carly, they will let her go through her revenge to make her happy enough to join them. But that doesn't the AM is over, maybe Rudger installs puppet leader from the dark signers to take over AM as it boasts a high number of sacrifices for the Earthbound Gods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saturn of Elemia Posted December 24, 2008 Report Share Posted December 24, 2008 Thoughts:Slave for the Dark Signers - Highly possible. Rudger (for all we know) might intervene and explain the plot - or Carly will (somehow) get the message via a spider or whatnot to spare Divine and enslave him. This outcome would make for a much better plot development. We are not sure if Rudger' date=' Demak & Kiryu are aware of Carly's awakening yet. (although the mark was shone in the sky says otherwise) But, they aren't shown to be interested about their 2 females' revenge plans. I think the dark signers are wrath-motivated, allowing the earthbound gods themselves to possess them to fulfill their rage. Since Divine killed Carly, they will let her go through her revenge to make her happy enough to join them. But that doesn't the AM is over, maybe Rudger installs puppet leader from the dark signers to take over AM as it boasts a high number of sacrifices for the Earthbound Gods.[/quote'] That's a good theory - and it makes perfect sense. Can't wait to find out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luna Diviner Posted December 24, 2008 Report Share Posted December 24, 2008 I've heard about that but when I watch something subbed it's like a whole new show, so awesome. Guess what I caught my friend doing in the weekends? Watching Dubbed episodes? We quickly changed it to a subbed version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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