Umbra Posted December 6, 2009 Report Share Posted December 6, 2009 Crow doesn't have an original backstory like Sherry' date=' though, so it was worse when he tried to take away main charachter statuses from other charachters.[/quote'] I recommend that you re-watch the Dark Signer arc. Crow has as much backstory as the others; unlike Sherry, he needed more than one episode to tell it. We still don't know everything, but we know enough. Sherry was orphaned by the villain and taken care of by the family butler: sounds like Bruce Wayne to me. Notice the "original" I threw in there. Crow's backstory was a section of Yusei and JACK'S. He grew up in Sattalite, no family. Notice how Sherry's backstory is everything but original. Within 5D's it is. Orphaned by the main villain? Hunted by them? Doesn't that apply to pretty much everyone in this series? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brendano Harns Posted December 6, 2009 Report Share Posted December 6, 2009 Oh. Didn't think of it like that. Still, Crow's is exactly like part of Yusei and Jack's background. He was orphaned and grew up that way. At least Sherry wasn't a tag-a-long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azuh Posted December 7, 2009 Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 Sherry hasn't had any character development since her arrival. Neither has Dark Glass, unless you count Bruno... For all we know, Sherry could be working with the Infinity Trio, its still to early to say "LoLz, ShErRi ShOuLd BeCoMe A SiGnEr, BeCaUsE i SaId So! hUhUhUh" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SushiTheLegend Posted December 7, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 Sherry or Kiryu for Signerness. >> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Umbra Posted December 7, 2009 Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 Sherry or Kiryu for Signerness. >> The hell are you talking about? You have yet to present an argument, other than I WANNA THEM TO BE SIGNAR BECOS I LURV THEM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Griffin Posted December 7, 2009 Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 I'm pretty sure, that from Konami's point of view, it's a good thing to make the signer a popular character, since that makes people happy that their favourite character is a signer, and so like the show a bit more. Ergo, popular characters will probably be signers, "BECOS I LURV THEM", might just be a reasonable argument, as long as it doesn't defy logic.EDIT: And even then... konami... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Umbra Posted December 7, 2009 Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 I'm pretty sure' date=' that from Konami's point of view, it's a good thing to make the signer a popular character, since that makes people happy that their favourite character is a signer, and so like the show a bit more. Ergo, popular characters will probably be signers, "BECOS I LURV THEM", might just be a reasonable argument, as long as it doesn't defy logic.EDIT: And even then... konami...[/quote'] You don't know Konami's POV, so don't speak for them. What makes you think the entirety of an arc isn't planned out before it is animated? Would the writers know that Crow or Kiryu would be popular before they were made? No, and that's why your logic fails. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Griffin Posted December 7, 2009 Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 It was also a joke poking at "Konami logic is fail" by implying that they would abandon a good better plot in favour of doing what the fans want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexis Rhodes Posted December 7, 2009 Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 I'm english but i'm watching the subbed version from episode 54 to the latest one so i`ll be coming here soon for some conversations ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brendano Harns Posted December 8, 2009 Report Share Posted December 8, 2009 I'm pretty sure' date=' that from Konami's point of view, it's a good thing to make the signer a popular character, since that makes people happy that their favourite character is a signer, and so like the show a bit more. Ergo, popular characters will probably be signers, "BECOS I LURV THEM", might just be a reasonable argument, as long as it doesn't defy logic.EDIT: And even then... konami...[/quote'] You don't know Konami's POV, so don't speak for them. What makes you think the entirety of an arc isn't planned out before it is animated? Would the writers know that Crow or Kiryu would be popular before they were made? No, and that's why your logic fails. Have you watched most any of the episodes in the third arc? =\ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Roxas Posted December 8, 2009 Report Share Posted December 8, 2009 Sherry or Kiryu for Signerness. >> The hell are you talking about? You have yet to present an argument' date=' other than I WANNA THEM TO BE SIGNAR BECOS I LURV THEM.[/quote'] Kiryu has absolutely no potential of becoming a Signer. As you told me, he's basically a Jinchuriki, and even that's just some crack theory. He's not going to go beyond that. Sherry has ties to Yliaster, is an interesting character, doesn't exist for the sole purpose of giving other characters a background whilst serving as a walking advertisement for an absurdly broken archetype, isn't trying to steal other character's status as a major character, inspired Aki to become a D-Wheeler, and might possibly possess the Fifth Dragon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merci Posted December 8, 2009 Report Share Posted December 8, 2009 I STILL believe Power Tool Dragon is related to the fifth dragon in some way. And what about Blackwing Dragon? I dunno about him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Umbra Posted December 8, 2009 Report Share Posted December 8, 2009 I'm pretty sure' date=' that from Konami's point of view, it's a good thing to make the signer a popular character, since that makes people happy that their favourite character is a signer, and so like the show a bit more. Ergo, popular characters will probably be signers, "BECOS I LURV THEM", might just be a reasonable argument, as long as it doesn't defy logic.EDIT: And even then... konami...[/quote'] You don't know Konami's POV, so don't speak for them. What makes you think the entirety of an arc isn't planned out before it is animated? Would the writers know that Crow or Kiryu would be popular before they were made? No, and that's why your logic fails. Have you watched most any of the episodes in the third arc? =\ Do you think the plot is written up as they go? Sherry or Kiryu for Signerness. >> The hell are you talking about? You have yet to present an argument' date=' other than I WANNA THEM TO BE SIGNAR BECOS I LURV THEM.[/quote'] Kiryu has absolutely no potential of becoming a Signer. As you told me, he's basically a Jinchuriki, and even that's just some crack theory. He's not going to go beyond that. Sherry has ties to Yliaster, is an interesting character, doesn't exist for the sole purpose of giving other characters a background whilst serving as a walking advertisement for an absurdly broken archetype, isn't trying to steal other character's status as a major character, inspired Aki to become a D-Wheeler, and might possibly possess the Fifth Dragon. Her ties to Yliaster are the same as almost everyone else's: Their parents were killed by them.The most interesting character this arc is Dark Glass.I didn't know you could be this prejudiced: Just because a character uses a good archetype, they're bad? Also, Crow isn't stealing anyone's MC-status, it's called "introducing a new character" and should be something you're quite familiar with.Aki was inspired by Sherry being female - which means about 50% of the population - and actually playing the card game on a motorcycle.Your evidence to back this up consists of Sherry Wayne and Alfred Mizoguchi looking at a card we can't see. That clearly means she has the Fifth Dragon, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Lightray Daedalus- Posted December 8, 2009 Report Share Posted December 8, 2009 Wait there is a difference between Sherry and everyone else whose parent where killed indirectly by yliaster in the fact that...they were personaly hunted and killed by them (For a reason which is the card that sherry keeps in teddy) while other character's were left orfan by them but caused by masive territory destruction (Case of JACK and crow's parents and Bommer's family)...(And Yusei's father who dies in the climax of stoping rudger's plans...)..and that's all...there is no other orfan in 5d's with ties to ylisater. So she has more than a motive to seek revenge on them....and even then I figured out that 5d's producer loves crow too much to take him off his signer status... NOW....If there...has too be any new filler...For the love of good! give the JACKXCarly fans the moment we have been waiting for so long! *Isaytheygottakissnow!*I will be conform with say misty dueling Carly for...something so she can finally remember her days as dark signers...just like Kiryu did.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brendano Harns Posted December 8, 2009 Report Share Posted December 8, 2009 ...Misty seeking out Carly to figure what happened? They were both Dark Signers. They both can't remember what happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Lightray Daedalus- Posted December 8, 2009 Report Share Posted December 8, 2009 ...And Divine's Spirit seeking revenge on the 2 woman that manage to somehow kill him.....OMG WHAT DID I JUST DO..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Roxas Posted December 8, 2009 Report Share Posted December 8, 2009 Her ties to Yliaster are the same as almost everyone else's: Their parents were killed by them. Sherry is the only character whose parents were killed by Yliaster. If you're referring to the Zero Reverse' date=' then that was due to Rudger, who was not involved with Yliaster aside from meeting that guy in the desert. The most interesting character this arc is Dark Glass. While he is intriguing, I don't know how he's the most interesting. I didn't know you could be this prejudiced: Just because a character uses a good archetype' date=' they're bad?[/quote'] I've nicknamed him Croshiro Uchiha for a reason: He's ridiculously powerful and disregarding his power, he's still annoying. That was part of the reason why I actually liked 85. Also' date=' Crow isn't [b']stealing[/b] anyone's MC-status, it's called "introducing a new character" and should be something you're quite familiar with. Aki was played up as being a crucial member of the trio that should have been Yusei, Jack, and Aki. After 64, Crow is a Signer, Aki and the twins now have about as much as importance as Carly. I understand that Crow has been friends with Yusei and Crow for a long time, but why do two other Signers have to lose what little importance they had around the time a new Signer is christened? Your evidence to back this up consists of Sherry Wayne and Alfred Mizoguchi looking at a card we can't see. That clearly means she has the Fifth Dragon' date=' right?[/quote'] It might be the Fifth Dragon. The only cards that come to mind that Yliaster would want are the Fifth Dragon and some card related to the Kikouetei. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Umbra Posted December 8, 2009 Report Share Posted December 8, 2009 The Zero Reverse was caused by Rudger being a Dark Signer, which indeed was Yliaster's fault. So far, the few plots that Crow has been involved in relates more to him than let's say Aki or Luca. His duel with and subsequent rescue of Junk-jiisan was because of Martha, which Crow knows as good as Jack and Yusei - yet I don't see you complaining about that - and his duel with Leo was to prove a point with Zora. Aki herself has been more plot-relevant since 65 and onward, due to her saving Yusei's life at one point, and Luca has dueled one of the Paladins. You see, Crow isn't nearly as MC-stealing as you make him out to be; he just has more screentime than Aki and the twins due to the fact that he's physically closer to the protagonist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Roxas Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 I had forgotten about the duel with Junk-jiisan. Fine, he's stealing their spotlight, but not their status. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanAtlus Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 Personally, I think it looks like the writing staff hadn't thought of Crow untill the second arc. If they had, he would've gotten a cameo in one of Yusei's memories. And Rua needs some filler episodes cuz he's awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brendano Harns Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 ...And Divine's Spirit seeking revenge on the 2 woman that manage to somehow kill him.....OMG WHAT DID I JUST DO..... ISEAWATUDIDTHAR Personally' date=' I think it looks like the writing staff hadn't thought of Crow untill the second arc. If they had, he would've gotten a cameo in one of Yusei's memories. And Rua needs some filler episodes cuz he's awesome.[/quote'] No more fillers. Anything but that. Maybe he could do something all on his own that's related to the plot, and that actually has some significancPr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cin Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 YUSEI/KIRYU TAG TEAM HELL YEA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skyfi Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 Really!? Link? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cin Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 Episode 88:12/09/2009The Trap Laid in Front of Victory Yusei and Kiryu continue their duel. Kiryu has wanted to be freed from dueling by losing to Yusei. However, Kiryu, unable to betray the duel, summons Infernity Death Dragon and makes his move on Yusei. However, Yusei summons Stardust Dragon to oppose Kiryu. And then, Yusei declares to Kiryu, "I am going to save you!" Episode 89:12/16/2009Terror of Gattling OgreYusei brings Kiryu and escapes the mine. What they see as they escape is a graveyard. Kiryu finds out the fact that the people who lost their duels and were sent to the mines have been dying and is shocked, blaming himself for what's happened. That is when West and Nico show up. Thinking that Yusei and Kiryu will ned a D-Wheel when they get out of town, they bring Yusei's D-Wheel over. When Yusei tries to help the people sent to the mine, all of the sudden, Rotton appears and makes his assault. Wanting to save Kiryu and the others, Yusei has a Riding Duel with Rotton. Episode 90:12/23/2009Deathmatch Riding DuelRotton has summoned Big Cannon Ogre and backed Yusei into a corner. When Yusei's Life Points drop down to a slim 400, Yusei stakes everything on his next draw. Meanwhile, Kiryu has saved Sergio, West and Nico's father, and has been fighting the lookouts in order to escape. Episode 91:01/06/2010Tag Duel: Kiryu and Yusei VS Rotton Crashtown has come under control of Rotton and, now that there is no one to oppose him, has become subject to his will. However, that is when Yusei and Kiryu arrive. Kiryu declares to Rotton, "Let me show you how the Grim Reaper lives his life." Thusly, the duel has begun with Yusei & Kiryu against Rotton with the fate of the town hanging in the balance. Episode 92:01/13/2010Last Man StandingYusei & Kiryu VS Rotton continues. Yusei attacks Rotton, bringing down his Life Points. But, what Rotton summons to the field is....... Episode 93:01/20/2010??????????????????? ____________Screw spoiler tags Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aesirson Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 Seems that the Crashtown Arc is longer then I thought, I was thinking about three episodes but nah, let's go with 7-8 ones instead! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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