Jesus Posted October 11, 2008 Report Share Posted October 11, 2008 Broken plant is quite broken. But still sexy because it's not limited, or even semi'd yet, and I can use it in GigaSwarm, GigaOTK, or any plant deck for that matter as one of the best Plant Search Engines. I was using this a few days ago against a bunch of Seniors, and they got really pissed off calling this "a gay plant card" or "stupid broken plant" or "Gigaplant's little brother". Discuss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonisanoob Posted October 11, 2008 Report Share Posted October 11, 2008 this will pwn come croc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Judgment Dragon Posted October 11, 2008 Report Share Posted October 11, 2008 Its an awesome card at the moment. UFO Turtle is pretty good for getting this out. Tributing for a Plant, 1 for 1, no real loss of advantage, deck thinning. An excellent card. Will be further boosted by Crossroads of Chaos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yogg-Saron Posted October 11, 2008 Report Share Posted October 11, 2008 Overpowered card is overpowered. Just dunk it with its on effect to bring out to others in your deck, then get another plant monster? Deckthinning + Monster advantage = Plant ownage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corporal Posted October 11, 2008 Report Share Posted October 11, 2008 It's good in World Lockdowns too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skuldur Posted October 11, 2008 Report Share Posted October 11, 2008 I <3 this card it's just so good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesusofChaos™ Posted October 11, 2008 Report Share Posted October 11, 2008 Ok card is ok, well see what happens when CROC comes out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenzoTheHarpist Posted October 11, 2008 Report Share Posted October 11, 2008 Helluva broken in plants since you can get out any plant of any strength. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
armageddon08 Posted October 11, 2008 Report Share Posted October 11, 2008 When CROC comes out I'm betting this will be semid or limited to 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted October 11, 2008 Report Share Posted October 11, 2008 Let's here some actual arguments about where this card should be on the list and why, rather than the usual "OMG BROKED", "OMG NOT BROKED", "NO U IT R BROKED". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesus Posted October 11, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 11, 2008 Well, IMO it deserves to be on the list in every way possible. Any card that searches through the deck that and can summon any monster with no level restrictions deserves to be bannned. Why isn't it banned yet? Is it because it's a plant? DO NOT MOCK ZEH PLANTZ KONAMI. DO NOT MOCK ZEH PLANTZ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted October 11, 2008 Report Share Posted October 11, 2008 Well' date=' IMO it deserves to be on the list in every way possible. Any card that searches through the deck that [b']and[/b] can summon any monster with no level restrictions deserves to be bannned. Why isn't it banned yet? Is it because it's a plant? DO NOT MOCK ZEH PLANTZ KONAMI. DO NOT MOCK ZEH PLANTZ. This logic implies that the following should also be banned: Boss RushBatteryman ChargerCrystal BeaconDamage = ReptileDamage CondenserFlying Kamakiri #1GeartownGiant RatGladiator Beast AlexanderGladiator Beast BestiariGladiator Beast DariusGladiator Beast DimacariGladiator Beast EquesteGladiator Beast GaiodiazGladiator Beast GyzarusGladiator Beast HoplomusGladiator Beast LaquariGladiator Beast MurmilloGladiator Beast SecutorGladiator Beast SpartacusGravekeeper's SpyHERO Flash!!Howling InsectLast WillMagician's CircleMasked DragonMiracle Jurassic EggMother GrizzlyMystic TomatoNova SummonerPyramid TurtleShining AngelSubstitoadTest TigerUFOroidUFO TurtleWarrior Lady of the Wasteland Now, justify banning all of these. Last Will is pretty obvious, but what about the others? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesus Posted October 11, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 11, 2008 Erhm, I forgot to mention 'With no ATK or DEF restrictions.' xD. That should cut down your list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted October 11, 2008 Report Share Posted October 11, 2008 Boss RushBatteryman ChargerCrystal BeaconDamage = ReptileDamage CondenserGeartownGladiator Beast AlexanderGladiator Beast BestiariGladiator Beast DariusGladiator Beast DimacariGladiator Beast EquesteGladiator Beast GaiodiazGladiator Beast GyzarusGladiator Beast HoplomusGladiator Beast LaquariGladiator Beast MurmilloGladiator Beast SecutorGladiator Beast SpartacusHERO Flash!!Miracle Jurassic EggSubstitoadTest Tiger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TotalObelisk Posted October 11, 2008 Report Share Posted October 11, 2008 I'll admit it is a pretty broken card but can be stopped with Mask of Restrict. There are a lot of cards that can wreck this one which is probably why it hasn't been banned. Personally I think this is an excellent card, and with it I can summon BRD in one turn: SP Summon Lonefire somehow, tribute it for Gigaplant, and then either use Gigaplant to get lonefire back and tribute it for Copy Plant, or just summon Copy Plant from hand/grave....Then of course tuning for BRD... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazer Yoshi Posted October 11, 2008 Report Share Posted October 11, 2008 Banned once Crossroads of Chaos comes. Not too bad already, considering the Giga-Plant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
「tea.leaf」 Posted October 11, 2008 Report Share Posted October 11, 2008 I love this card... Where did they go? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Star Posted October 11, 2008 Report Share Posted October 11, 2008 this will pwn come croc Crossroads of Chaos is written CSOC. I have two of these, and I'll be getting a third one from Cheese Pirate soon. It's a good card, but I think it would have been better as an Ultra Rare. I don't think this card needs to be put on the list. It provides support for a Type that didn't really have a lot of support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Umbra Posted October 11, 2008 Report Share Posted October 11, 2008 Off-topic-sorta: It's CSOC, not CROC, everyone. Pronounced "Keh-sock". On-topic: I either love or hate this card, depending on what side of the field it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orochi Posted October 12, 2008 Report Share Posted October 12, 2008 to all of those who said "OMFG TEH BROKENESS!!" on this card... please learn2play... good THEMED card is good... unless there's other decks that can abuse this, no reason for banning... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rise of the Eldrazi Posted October 12, 2008 Report Share Posted October 12, 2008 Epicly Broken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted October 12, 2008 Report Share Posted October 12, 2008 This entire forum is terrible. Only two people have actually tried to make arguments in favour of either side, and both of those arguments were terrible. The rest of you just decided to go "OH NO IT ISN'T", "OH YES IT IS" like this is some sort of bloody pantomime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
「tea.leaf」 Posted October 12, 2008 Report Share Posted October 12, 2008 Okay, to satisfy Crab. Lonefire Blossom's concept is relatively balanced. By itself, this card is no more broken than Rescue Cat, even less so, since it only replaces itself and does not generate advantage. Compared to something like Exiled Force, Lonefire Blossom is even less broken, since, although it is still a +0, it doesn't remove any of your opponent's field presence. However, once put into context, Lonefire Blossom quite a powerful card, granting access to Plant-Type Monsters of various strengths and abilities. I'm not very educated as far as Plant-Type Monsters go, but from what I can tell the most likely targets for Lonefire Blossom would be either Giagplant or Tytannial, Princess of Camellias, neither of which are threatening at all by themselves. Since Lonefire Blossom can't be expected to last past the turn it's Summoned, it's likely that it will be used as soon as it hits the field. Both of the aforementioned Monsters would be nothing more than beatsticks in this case, and will serve no effective purpose other than running over the opponent. My comment ends here; Lonefire Blossom is relatively balanced. EDIT: For all intensive purposes, Lonefire Blossom might as well be a spell that reads "Normal Summon 1 Plant-Type Monster from your Deck." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesus Posted October 12, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 12, 2008 Boss RushBatteryman ChargerCrystal BeaconDamage = ReptileDamage CondenserGeartownGladiator Beast AlexanderGladiator Beast BestiariGladiator Beast DariusGladiator Beast DimacariGladiator Beast EquesteGladiator Beast GaiodiazGladiator Beast GyzarusGladiator Beast HoplomusGladiator Beast LaquariGladiator Beast MurmilloGladiator Beast SecutorGladiator Beast SpartacusHERO Flash!!Miracle Jurassic EggSubstitoadTest Tiger Ok' date=' let's start. As we all know, most of the above has to do with Glad Beasts. I'll get more into this list later on. For now, I'm gonna talk about Lonefire Blossom. Now in reality, we know that in the current card pool, without Crossroads being released yet, there is only one really good plant, and that's Gigaplant. Now, Lonefire's Effect says you can just dump one plant (With lonefire being plant) to Summon another plant from your deck. Lonefires ATK is horrid, so we know that it's not going to last long if you keep it on the field. Thats why we dump it with it's own effect to bring out Gigityplant. (I call it Gigityplant xD). Now, next turn; if not this turn; you activate Gigaplant's effect to Bring back Lonefire, then dump it again for ANOTHER gigaplant. Now as Tea said in the above post, The only thing that Lonefire could be good for is running the opponent over with a bunch of plants. Special Summoning from the deck with No Level Restrictions and no ATK or DEF restrictions for a monster that can get Lonefire back this/next turn to dump it again for another Gigaplant that can do the same thing is kinda broken. The only reason is because once you draw a Lonefire Blossom, you have acsess to 3 gigaplants in your deck if your opponent cannot destroy gigaplant by the second turn Gigaplant is on the field. End Comment: Lonefire itself ATM isn't that broken because it's only worthy option is Gigaplant, but once Crossroads come out, I think this should be Limited; even though I think it's sexy. End comment on Crab's List: Well, notice how they can all be run at 3. Glad beasts ability to get any glad beast on the list make them one of the Top Decks for last meta, right? This meta I beleive it's Teli-DAD. But that's still not the point - All Glad beasts can be run at 3. But that doesn't mean you should run them all at three. [/topic'] This entire forum is terrible. Only two people have actually tried to make arguments in favour of either side' date=' and both of those arguments were terrible. The rest of you just decided to go "OH NO IT ISN'T", "OH YES IT IS" like this is some sort of bloody pantomime.[/quote'] You hurt mah feelings >_>. xD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sixty Posted October 12, 2008 Report Share Posted October 12, 2008 Epicly Broken. Haha. No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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