Brushfire Posted October 5, 2008 Report Share Posted October 5, 2008 I'd rather not come across as some stupid wannabe-glasstin. Gosh' date=' I'm sorry. :( -Glasstin[img']http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee204/glasstin10/emo-fish.gif[/img] You're fine.It's the wannabes that suck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
「tea.leaf」 Posted October 5, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 5, 2008 All I'm going to say is' date=' Before you start posting the flaws of others, why don't you start looking at your own Tea.Leaf?[/quote'] Okay then, start criticizing me. I'd rather not come across as some stupid wannabe-glasstin. Gosh' date=' I'm sorry. :( -Glasstin[img']http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee204/glasstin10/emo-fish.gif[/img] You're fine.It's the wannabes that suck. Glasstin is cool as always. *high fives*I made that thread a while ago, and you obviously didn't say anything. I will assume I have done no wrong. I do not belive I was online during then. Also, thats your problem. You must have people tell you that you have a problem. If they don't, then nothing is wrong with you. That is some of the worst logic I have ever seen. I will admit I have problems. What is your issue with admitting your not perfect? If no one thinks it's a problem, then it's not a problem. If you had a problem with me, you should've brought it up, and I would've dealt with it promptly. It's perfectly good logic, and it's how a good administration should act: respond to the criticisms and comments of its people in a prompt manner.The issue with that is, some people arent b****es like you. Maybe they want you to figure it out yourself. But why bother telling you anyway? You say would would deal with it right away. You know you would do nothing but flame the member untill you have done enough. And, I have told you many times that I have had a problem with you. In fact, not long after I told you, you made a thread "apologizing" to ycm for your actions. Yet, you did not change one bit. You are a dissapointing member, who I think should never have been made a mod.All along this discussion seemed one sided to me. Now I get the other side. No, this isn't the other side. They're only the skewed opinions of someone who hasn't seen everything. I, on the other hand, have experienced being a normal member and a moderator. I can safely say that the staff members are not living up to their duties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
armageddon08 Posted October 5, 2008 Report Share Posted October 5, 2008 All I'm going to say is' date=' Before you start posting the flaws of others, why don't you start looking at your own Tea.Leaf?[/quote'] Okay then, start criticizing me. I made that thread a while ago, and you obviously didn't say anything. I will assume I have done no wrong. I do not belive I was online during then. Also, thats your problem. You must have people tell you that you have a problem. If they don't, then nothing is wrong with you. That is some of the worst logic I have ever seen. I will admit I have problems. What is your issue with admitting your not perfect? If no one thinks it's a problem, then it's not a problem. If you had a problem with me, you should've brought it up, and I would've dealt with it promptly. It's perfectly good logic, and it's how a good administration should act: respond to the criticisms and comments of its people in a prompt manner.The issue with that is, some people arent b****es like you. Maybe they want you to figure it out yourself. But why bother telling you anyway? You say would would deal with it right away. You know you would do nothing but flame the member untill you have done enough. And, I have told you many times that I have had a problem with you. In fact, not long after I told you, you made a thread "apologizing" to ycm for your actions. Yet, you did not change one bit. You are a dissapointing member, who I think should never have been made a mod.All along this discussion seemed one sided to me. Now I get the other side. And you also see that the other side sucks hard. =DYep8) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yankee Posted October 5, 2008 Report Share Posted October 5, 2008 All I'm going to say is' date=' Before you start posting the flaws of others, why don't you start looking at your own Tea.Leaf?[/quote'] Okay then, start criticizing me. I'd rather not come across as some stupid wannabe-glasstin. Gosh' date=' I'm sorry. :( -Glasstin[img']http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee204/glasstin10/emo-fish.gif[/img] You're fine.It's the wannabes that suck. Glasstin is cool as always. *high fives*I made that thread a while ago, and you obviously didn't say anything. I will assume I have done no wrong. I do not belive I was online during then. Also, thats your problem. You must have people tell you that you have a problem. If they don't, then nothing is wrong with you. That is some of the worst logic I have ever seen. I will admit I have problems. What is your issue with admitting your not perfect? If no one thinks it's a problem, then it's not a problem. If you had a problem with me, you should've brought it up, and I would've dealt with it promptly. It's perfectly good logic, and it's how a good administration should act: respond to the criticisms and comments of its people in a prompt manner.The issue with that is, some people arent b****es like you. Maybe they want you to figure it out yourself. But why bother telling you anyway? You say would would deal with it right away. You know you would do nothing but flame the member untill you have done enough. And, I have told you many times that I have had a problem with you. In fact, not long after I told you, you made a thread "apologizing" to ycm for your actions. Yet, you did not change one bit. You are a dissapointing member, who I think should never have been made a mod.All along this discussion seemed one sided to me. Now I get the other side. No, this isn't the other side. They're only the skewed opinions of someone who hasn't seen everything. I, on the other hand, have experienced being a normal member and a moderator. I can safely say that the staff members are not living up to their duties.And you are? There is a reason why you are not a mod anymore Leaf. Yet, you are speaking like you where the best. Dear god, you where even modding a section that most people could care less about on this forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dream2Defy Posted October 5, 2008 Report Share Posted October 5, 2008 it took me Forever to read the whole post its like a booki dont know whose side to be on im torn....=(Oh well ill just pickeni mene mini mo......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
「tea.leaf」 Posted October 5, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 5, 2008 And you are? 「tea.leaf」, ex-moderator, and someone who knows better than you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dream2Defy Posted October 5, 2008 Report Share Posted October 5, 2008 ok im done im on tea leafsim not saying all mods are bad just some of them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
armageddon08 Posted October 5, 2008 Report Share Posted October 5, 2008 I'm on nobody's side. I think both parties are guilty to some extent(in one another's oppinions). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
「tea.leaf」 Posted October 5, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 5, 2008 I'm on nobody's side. I think both parties are guilty to some extent(in one another's oppinions). There's no guilt I can be accused of. I'm no longer responsible for anything, only my own words. Even then, what can you accuse me of? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dream2Defy Posted October 5, 2008 Report Share Posted October 5, 2008 its like both sides are right and wrong to be honest after reading thread my head hurts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yankee Posted October 5, 2008 Report Share Posted October 5, 2008 And you are? 「tea.leaf」' date=' ex-moderator, and someone who knows better than you.[/quote']You failed a mod, that is why you are no longer one. Also, you are not just telling the truth. If you know anything, then you should know what sometimes, things are better left unsaid. Why don't you for once, FOR ONCE, shut up, and take a good look at yourself. You are not nearly as good as you think you are. I have no respect for a member like you. Posting the "truth". Ha! You only post because you want the lolz. The only way you can do that is by flaming members. I have proof of this. The thread in my post got me banned. J-Max's. You continued to post in it, just for the perpose of making fun of J-Max. That thread was also part of the reason you no longer mod. If you want to know what your problems are, look at that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brushfire Posted October 5, 2008 Report Share Posted October 5, 2008 its like both sides are right and wrong to be honest after reading thread my head hurts Valid logical reasons to support your claim, if you please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dad Posted October 5, 2008 Report Share Posted October 5, 2008 Heh. I sometimes wonder why you were dropped. Then I look back and say, "those fools". You have the utmost respect from me Tea Leaf. ~Shade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
armageddon08 Posted October 5, 2008 Report Share Posted October 5, 2008 its like both sides are right and wrong to be honest after reading thread my head hurtsThat's exactly what I was trying to say8). And this thread is getting more flamy and confusing by the minute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brushfire Posted October 5, 2008 Report Share Posted October 5, 2008 Heh. I sometimes wonder why you were dropped. Then I look back and say' date=' "those fools". You have the utmost respect from me Tea Leaf. ~Shade[/quote'] Someone has some sense.Cookie for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dream2Defy Posted October 5, 2008 Report Share Posted October 5, 2008 its like both sides are right and wrong to be honest after reading thread my head hurts Valid logical reasons to support your claim' date=' if you please.[/quote']u mean how they're both right or wrong or y my head hurts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brushfire Posted October 5, 2008 Report Share Posted October 5, 2008 its like both sides are right and wrong to be honest after reading thread my head hurts Valid logical reasons to support your claim' date=' if you please.[/quote']u mean how they're both right or wrong or y my head hurts Please go down to the "Logic shop" and buy some logic.If you don't have enough brain points, just sell your emotion. =/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dream2Defy Posted October 5, 2008 Report Share Posted October 5, 2008 i was really bored so i made this http://static3.filefront.com/images/personal/a/ace010/147102/mczmcowjyw.jpgits really stupid but iwas bored so wahteverits like both sides are right and wrong to be honest after reading thread my head hurts Valid logical reasons to support your claim' date=' if you please.[/quote']u mean how they're both right or wrong or y my head hurts Please go down to the "Logic shop" and buy some logic.If you don't have enough brain points, just sell your emotion. =/man im jus kiddini mean that tea leaf is right in some ways and i agree with her but the mods are not entirely wrong just mostly wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 5, 2008 Report Share Posted October 5, 2008 Let's keep things civil and mature here, guys. I'm locking this for now; any personal disputes should be settled via PMs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
「tea.leaf」 Posted October 6, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2008 Things are certainly less exciting now that BOTH of my threads have been closed. To some extent the second one was reasonable, since a lot of people were stirring it up by saying stupid things. However, I didn't get a chance to finish my last post, so I will continue it here. And you are? 「tea.leaf」' date=' ex-moderator, and someone who knows better than you.[/quote']You failed a mod, that is why you are no longer one. Also, you are not just telling the truth. If you know anything, then you should know what sometimes, things are better left unsaid. Why don't you for once, FOR ONCE, shut up, and take a good look at yourself. You are not nearly as good as you think you are. I have no respect for a member like you. Posting the "truth". Ha! You only post because you want the lolz. The only way you can do that is by flaming members. I have proof of this. The thread in my post got me banned. J-Max's. You continued to post in it, just for the perpose of making fun of J-Max. That thread was also part of the reason you no longer mod. If you want to know what your problems are, look at that. 1. I was perfectly fine as a moderator. My forum was kept clean, my rules properly enforced. Heck, TCG forum may never be that clean again. 2. I've taken many looks at myself, figuratively and literally, and I can tell you that my behavior is perfectly fine. Problems must be noted and corrected, and that's what do. I note problems now since I can no longer fix them. 3. Again, where have I actually flamed someone? You've yet to deliver any accounts. J-Max needs to lose weight, that's a fact. Carry that much on your body is not good for you. I have no reason to mock him whatsoever. 4. Because critically assessing something and thinking independently are negative attributes for an administration, right? Since when has thinking been a sin? OH WAIT, in this patriarchal society, it's illegal for women to think and express their ideas! Woe is me for forgetting my place! I'll be in the kitchen fixing you a sandwich! Heh. I sometimes wonder why you were dropped. Then I look back and say' date=' "those fools". You have the utmost respect from me Tea Leaf. ~Shade[/quote'] Many thanks. Continue the conversation from the previous thread, but don't go overboard this time. Seriously, THINK before you TALK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodrun Posted October 6, 2008 Report Share Posted October 6, 2008 I have a hunch that you don't want to just prove a point (as made effident by the fact you have yet to use the PM System to my knowledge) but publicly embarass many people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PikaPerson01 Posted October 6, 2008 Report Share Posted October 6, 2008 inb4 topic gets closed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
「tea.leaf」 Posted October 6, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2008 I have a hunch that you don't want to just prove a point (as made effident by the fact you have yet to use the PM System to my knowledge) but publicly embarass many people. I have no intention to embarrass people. However, bring issues to the attention of the public is only to get changes made nowadays. It's your world really; you people, the staff, made it this way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Falling Pizza Posted October 6, 2008 Administrators Report Share Posted October 6, 2008 Be careful with your generous use of accusations. Throwing sexism out as the reason for your demotion is entirely inaccurate- in fact, I didn't know you were female until AFTER I demoted you. The fact is, your actions as a moderator did not meet our standards, and that has nothing to do with gender. Using the F-word, making personal and racist comments, and flaming people is inappropriate regardless of who you are. And for that matter TEA, feel free to PM me to discuss anything related to your demotion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
「tea.leaf」 Posted October 6, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2008 Moderators always get the final say, because they'd lock the thread before you can retort, you know? A good trick, but I'm not going to let it stop me. Be careful with your generous use of accusations. Throwing sexism out as the reason for your demotion is entirely inaccurate- in fact I didn't know you were female until AFTER I demoted you. The fact is' date=' your actions as a moderator did not meet our standards, and that has nothing to do with gender. Using the F-word, making personal and racist comments, and flaming people is inappropriate regardless of who you are.[/quote'] I haven't really stated sexism as my throwing out. I don't think you guys get it yet: I don't care about being kicked from a mod. I hate the idiots on this site too much to legitimately rule over them. I have no idea where racism came in, but I do admit to the swearing and personal comments. Flaming, on the other hand, I still will no admit to, because I do not believe I ever flamed anyone. Was I warned? I think so, maybe, but no one ever came to me, and told me I needed to get my act "in line." Tkill tried, but before I even got the message I'd already been kicked. To Tkill, I'm actually somewhat grateful; as for you, I cannot say the same. I don't think there's a single moderator right that has a more open policy than I did. I enforced my rules brutally, yes, but they were all open for debate. No one ever complained, except for two major case, and I think that's a better record than any of you. Now, that's not to say I want my job back, because, as I've said, I don't care. Just something bring to light, if you guys happen to consider different moderation styles and adjust your own. Let's kick off Part Three, shall we? EDIT: Oh, and if I'm going to get banned at some point, can you notify me beforehand? I have a farewell message that I'd like publicize at that time to all of YCM. Thanks in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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