Super Smash Bros Official Thread (Remake)

[Xing]

I haven't played in 1 & 1/2 months. Gosh, time to put it in. I don't remember the last time I even touched my Wii. Freakin' DS games and 360 games grabbed attention.

 

Obama needs his skin turned brown. Or did Obama turn White (even though hes 60% white or something like that)

[TrickyPooBoy]

I think his skin's dark enough.

[Xing]

No, he looks......hispanic-ish with that color

[TrickyPooBoy]

Lol, I guess.

[Sigma]

TAG know how your always looking for songs to use in Brawl' date=' try this one

 

And haxs

[img']http://stacksmash.cultnet.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/al_090612_2345binout.jpg[/img]

 

1) Hm....I might use it somewhere.

2) Eh...TBQH, it's not that good. The head doesn't really look like Bass:

 

Now HERE'S textures:

It's Obama and Hitler. :D

That made me lol. You must add them. And dude you need to fix the haxs in general.

 

 

So who's been playing as of late? My TAG and Dragon Master had a fair amount of matches today. I only lost once and that was in a free for all. Granted most of the matches were free for alls, but still. To only loss one shows I'm the BEST PLAYER EVER.

O RLY?! I'll need to face against you, but not right now, sometime soon. >_>

[TrickyPooBoy]

Why don't you lock the old SSBB thread?

[Flame Dragon]

TAG know how your always looking for songs to use in Brawl' date=' try this one

 

And haxs

[img']http://stacksmash.cultnet.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/al_090612_2345binout.jpg[/img]

 

1) Hm....I might use it somewhere.

2) Eh...TBQH, it's not that good. The head doesn't really look like Bass:

 

Now HERE'S textures:

It's Obama and Hitler. :D

That made me lol. You must add them. And dude you need to fix the haxs in general.

 

 

So who's been playing as of late? My TAG and Dragon Master had a fair amount of matches today. I only lost once and that was in a free for all. Granted most of the matches were free for alls, but still. To only loss one shows I'm the BEST PLAYER EVER.

O RLY?! I'll need to face against you, but not right now, sometime soon. >_>

I'm up for it when ever I have Wifi

 

 

Why don't you lock the old SSBB thread?

The old one is in Clubs.

[TrickyPooBoy]

^Oh, I see.

[XDRangePureX]

My main is Fox and ROB(I never knew he was top tier). I chose ROB cause his up B is awesome.

 

Also' date=' why is King D3 top tier?

[/quote']

1) Yes, ROB's Up B is awesome. :D

2)

King Dedede is a straightforward character. His tilts and smash attacks' date=' which are largely disjointed hitboxes, combine with one of the most versatile projectiles in the game, Waddle Dees, for devastating effect. Additionally, Dedede's throws are powerful, and in particular, the down throw allows for many characters to be chaingrabbed regardless of damage percent, and he is capable of infinitely chaingrabbing Donkey Kong. Dedede's recovery puts together four mid-air jumps and a super-armored Up Special with great vertical distance (and a powerful spike upon its decent, when not canceled) to be one of the best in the game. Because Dedede is also one of the heaviest characters in the game, he can be a dangerously tough match-up for many characters that lack the means to force him offstage.

 

Dedede is good at keeping pressure on the opponent, despite his slow movement in the air and on the ground. Dedede has range, power, priority, and attack speed mixed throughout his entire arsenal, with his best attack, back-air, possessing all four attributes. Dedede has absolutely no problem killing, as he is excellent at edge-guarding and gimping, and possesses many powerful ground finishers as well, including his quick and deadly up-tilt which kills as early as 90%. A crafty Dedede can even fool an opponent into a kill at 40% by using his forward-smash, although this is risky as the forward smash is extremely laggy despite its range (which includes a shockwave slightly in front of the hammer). From a distance, Dedede can prod his opponent with his quick f-tilt, the furthest reaching standard attack in the game, or he can use his Waddle Dee special to toss living projectiles at the opponent, which are capable of attacking of their own accord and absorbing projectiles to defend Dedede. The danger of the odd Gordo is also an excellent pressure, as they are extremely strong KO projectiles.

 

Where Dedede really shines is in his ability to transition defense into a powerful offense. With powerful throws and the best chaingrab in the game, many characters can be easily punished while approaching Dedede. Dedede's forward throw ends chaingrabs that have reached the edge with significant damage, with the added bonus of putting opponents into a recovery situation, where Dedede can begin using his back-air as a powerful Wall of Pain. His back throw is very strong, both in knockback and in damage (16%, most damaging throw in the game), and can KO at higher percents when performed from the edge. Dedede's grab game is topped off with excellent range all around, being tied with Charizard for having the best non-tether grab range in the game. Dedede also has two very quick power moves to get the opponent off him while in-close, outside of grabbing: his horizontal-knockback d-tilt and the aforementioned up-tilt.

 

However, Dedede suffers from several problems. As mentioned, he is one of the slower characters in the game, having poor horizontal air speed (the worst in the game), and his recovery is, to some extent, predictable, due to the Super Dedede Jump's slow speed and inability to grab the ledge at all unless canceled. For certain speedier characters, Dedede can be easy to combo and juggle, and a smart opponent can take advantage of the ending lag time on many of Dedede's moves. Also, his big character model is easy to hit, making him particularly susceptible to projectile camping.[/quote']

 

SPEAKING OF TIERS:

SS Tier: 1. Meta Knight

S Tier: 2. Snake

A Tier: 3. Falco; 4. King Dedede; 5. Mr. Game and Watch; 6. Marth; 7. Diddy Kong

B Tier: 8. Wario; 9. R.O.B.; 10. Lucario; 11. Olimar;

C Tier: 12. Pikachu; 13. Kirby; 14. Donkey Kong; 15. Ice Climbers;

D Tier: 16. Zero Suit Samus; 17. Toon Link; 18. Pit; 19. Peach; 20. Wolf

E Tier: 21. Luigi; 22. Zelda; 23. Bowser; 24. Fox; 25. Sheik; 26. Ike

F Tier: 27. Mario; 28. Lucas; 29. Ness; 30. Samus; 31. Sonic; 32. Pokémon Trainer; 33. Yoshi

G Tier: 34. Link; 35. Jigglypuff; 36. Ganondorf; 37. Rick Wheeler

 

lolz, his jump basically fails epicly because he is so heavy ;)

also the up b tends to be a suicidal attack...

might as well take someone with you...

[Flame Dragon]

My main is Fox and ROB(I never knew he was top tier). I chose ROB cause his up B is awesome.

 

Also' date=' why is King D3 top tier?

[/quote']

1) Yes, ROB's Up B is awesome. :D

2)

King Dedede is a straightforward character. His tilts and smash attacks' date=' which are largely disjointed hitboxes, combine with one of the most versatile projectiles in the game, Waddle Dees, for devastating effect. Additionally, Dedede's throws are powerful, and in particular, the down throw allows for many characters to be chaingrabbed regardless of damage percent, and he is capable of infinitely chaingrabbing Donkey Kong. Dedede's recovery puts together four mid-air jumps and a super-armored Up Special with great vertical distance (and a powerful spike upon its decent, when not canceled) to be one of the best in the game. Because Dedede is also one of the heaviest characters in the game, he can be a dangerously tough match-up for many characters that lack the means to force him offstage.

 

Dedede is good at keeping pressure on the opponent, despite his slow movement in the air and on the ground. Dedede has range, power, priority, and attack speed mixed throughout his entire arsenal, with his best attack, back-air, possessing all four attributes. Dedede has absolutely no problem killing, as he is excellent at edge-guarding and gimping, and possesses many powerful ground finishers as well, including his quick and deadly up-tilt which kills as early as 90%. A crafty Dedede can even fool an opponent into a kill at 40% by using his forward-smash, although this is risky as the forward smash is extremely laggy despite its range (which includes a shockwave slightly in front of the hammer). From a distance, Dedede can prod his opponent with his quick f-tilt, the furthest reaching standard attack in the game, or he can use his Waddle Dee special to toss living projectiles at the opponent, which are capable of attacking of their own accord and absorbing projectiles to defend Dedede. The danger of the odd Gordo is also an excellent pressure, as they are extremely strong KO projectiles.

 

Where Dedede really shines is in his ability to transition defense into a powerful offense. With powerful throws and the best chaingrab in the game, many characters can be easily punished while approaching Dedede. Dedede's forward throw ends chaingrabs that have reached the edge with significant damage, with the added bonus of putting opponents into a recovery situation, where Dedede can begin using his back-air as a powerful Wall of Pain. His back throw is very strong, both in knockback and in damage (16%, most damaging throw in the game), and can KO at higher percents when performed from the edge. Dedede's grab game is topped off with excellent range all around, being tied with Charizard for having the best non-tether grab range in the game. Dedede also has two very quick power moves to get the opponent off him while in-close, outside of grabbing: his horizontal-knockback d-tilt and the aforementioned up-tilt.

 

However, Dedede suffers from several problems. As mentioned, he is one of the slower characters in the game, having poor horizontal air speed (the worst in the game), and his recovery is, to some extent, predictable, due to the Super Dedede Jump's slow speed and inability to grab the ledge at all unless canceled. For certain speedier characters, Dedede can be easy to combo and juggle, and a smart opponent can take advantage of the ending lag time on many of Dedede's moves. Also, his big character model is easy to hit, making him particularly susceptible to projectile camping.[/quote']

 

SPEAKING OF TIERS:

SS Tier: 1. Meta Knight

S Tier: 2. Snake

A Tier: 3. Falco; 4. King Dedede; 5. Mr. Game and Watch; 6. Marth; 7. Diddy Kong

B Tier: 8. Wario; 9. R.O.B.; 10. Lucario; 11. Olimar;

C Tier: 12. Pikachu; 13. Kirby; 14. Donkey Kong; 15. Ice Climbers;

D Tier: 16. Zero Suit Samus; 17. Toon Link; 18. Pit; 19. Peach; 20. Wolf

E Tier: 21. Luigi; 22. Zelda; 23. Bowser; 24. Fox; 25. Sheik; 26. Ike

F Tier: 27. Mario; 28. Lucas; 29. Ness; 30. Samus; 31. Sonic; 32. Pokémon Trainer; 33. Yoshi

G Tier: 34. Link; 35. Jigglypuff; 36. Ganondorf; 37. Rick Wheeler

 

lolz, his jump basically fails epicly because he is so heavy ;)

also the up b tends to be a suicidal attack...

might as well take someone with you...

That was from over half a year ago.

 

Yes, but he has 5 jumps. ^B isn't a suicidal attack. You shouldn't be using it as an attack in the first place.

 

 

Since the SSF2 dojo has been remade, I'll restart the SSF2 updates.

 

Today we have Mario

Sorry the pic is small it's the best I can do.

 

As for hax, today we have

[XDRangePureX]

Yes' date=' but he has 5 jumps. ^B isn't a suicidal attack. You shouldn't be using it as an attack in the first place.

[/quote']

 

yeah, unless there are 3 people under you >)

 

anyway, can i join? I dont have wifi though, so no friend code.

[Flame Dragon]

Yes' date=' but he has 5 jumps. ^B isn't a suicidal attack. You shouldn't be using it as an attack in the first place.

[/quote']

 

yeah, unless there are 3 people under you >)

 

anyway, can i join? I dont have wifi though, so no friend code.

If 3 people are under you use down air. Plus if that is the case then using it shouldn't kill you.

 

Sure.

[Neiko]

Off-Topic:Did anyone see SMYN 49 Part 2? It was awesome;I agree with almost everything they said.

 

Nintendo better work their ass off to get their fans back or they're gonna lose us. >.>

 

On-Topic: WHen do you think SMF2 Demo v0.5b will be released? I think it should be released in the upcoming week.

[Flame Dragon]

Off-Topic:Did anyone see SMYN 49 Part 2? It was awesome;I agree with almost everything they said.

 

Nintendo better work their ass off to get their fans back or they're gonna lose us. >.>

 

On-Topic: WHen do you think SMF2 Demo v0.5b will be released? I think it should be released in the upcoming week.

SMYN wouldn't be off topic since it is a smash podcast. And :) that you watch it.

 

I haven't ATM because I've had crap to do I should watch it tomorrow.

 

IDK. Soon I hope. SSF2 is going to be one of the main ways I kill my summer if it keeps up the way it's been going.

[TrickyPooBoy]

When I look at the online tournaments, I realize these guys fail at the game:

 

[Xing]

Until I saw an item, I though they played good. N00BS WITH ITEMS IN A TOURNY ARE N00BULAR.

Unless they were having a poke ball tourny, which they weren't.

[Neiko]

[quote='@ngelMoney' pid='2363905' dateline='1245169375']
When I look at the online tournaments, I realize these guys fail at the game:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUVZbsmNdgM
[/quote]

Bear in mind that the video was made over a year ago. People weren't just instantly good ya know. Also, it wasn't an Online tourny. :?

[quote='.:Dark Armed Xing:.' pid='2364629' dateline='1245175961']
Until I saw an item, I though they played good. N00BS WITH ITEMS IN A TOURNY ARE N00BULAR.
Unless they were having a poke ball tourny, which they weren't.
[/quote]

Hey, just because there were items doesn't make them n00bs. That was the TOURNAMENT'S decision, blame it, not the players. Besides, if there are items in a match (Even if you didn't want them) you might as well use them to get the upper hand.

[TrickyPooBoy]

But, it's an OFFICIAL TOURNAMENT and Ike suicided 2 times! You call that semi-good?

[XDRangePureX]

But' date=' it's an OFFICIAL TOURNAMENT and Ike suicided 2 times! You call that semi-good?

[/quote']

 

it doesnt even deserve F-minus.

[Sigma]

But' date=' it's an OFFICIAL TOURNAMENT and Ike suicided 2 times! You call that semi-good?

[/quote']

 

it doesnt even deserve F-minus.

 

The date was also Feb. 18, 2008, which probably means this was before the OFFICIAL tourney rules were set.

[TAG]

But' date=' it's an OFFICIAL TOURNAMENT and Ike suicided 2 times! You call that semi-good?

[/quote']

 

it doesnt even deserve F-minus.

 

The date was also Feb. 18, 2008, which probably means this was before the OFFICIAL tourney rules were set.

 

The "official" rules were probably set by then, since the game came out in Japan already. But that doesn't matter, cuz this was:

 

1) The first brawl tournament BY NINTENDO. Who don't follow competitive brawling rules.

2) Before the game came out in America. That was on Feb 18. The game came out in America March 9.

3) Timed matches for every round except the finals.

4) Wiimotes for every round except the finals, in which it was Classic Controller.

 

So anyone who says that they suck should pretty much just stfu.

[Neiko]

But' date=' it's an OFFICIAL TOURNAMENT and Ike suicided 2 times! You call that semi-good?

[/quote']

 

it doesnt even deserve F-minus.

 

The date was also Feb. 18, 2008, which probably means this was before the OFFICIAL tourney rules were set.

 

The "official" rules were probably set by then, since the game came out in Japan already. But that doesn't matter, cuz this was:

 

1) The first brawl tournament BY NINTENDO. Who don't follow competitive brawling rules.

2) Before the game came out in America. That was on Feb 18. The game came out in America March 9.

3) Timed matches for every round except the finals.

4) Wiimotes for every round except the finals, in which it was Classic Controller.

 

So anyone who says that they suck should pretty much just stfu.

 

 

TAG gets +1 internetz for being awesome.

[Lazer Yoshi]

^ Tis is an epic member. =)

Anyways, I know many people use the GC Controller, so, yeah. I prefer Wiimote, it just feels better to me. But I can do well with each controller type. ^_^

[Flame Dragon]

^ Tis is an epic member. =)

Anyways' date=' I know many people use the GC Controller, so, yeah. I prefer Wiimote, it just feels better to me. But I can do well with each controller type. ^_^

[/quote']

When you say Wiimote does that mean without the nunchuck? Cause if it does you are crazy to even try playing like that.

 

For me it's GC all the way.

[Xing]

I tried playing Wiimote only [s]once[/s] three times =P

Wiimote - Not good for me, or anyone!
Wiimote + Nunchuck - I started with that, even though I had played the original and melee, and was used to the original N64 and GC controller.
Classic - Never even seen one in real. 'Cept in stores
GC - Definitly, this Wavebird I [s]stole[/s] BORROWED, from my friend, I use all the time. Unless my friends are playing, the Wiis on a 4 FT dresser, so when they use the corded, they bring down the Wii -.-, so I use the wired, since I mainly sit in my PC chair, which is right beside the dresser.

Heck, I never said this, but RIGHT before I fought mr tacos in the 2nd SSBB tourny here, before I went to my Aunt's, I taught my mom how to play lol. She likes it. She wanted to start with Jiggly, but I told her Kirby instead. Now she loves Kirby =D