Ultimajk Posted August 17, 2007 Report Share Posted August 17, 2007 well it doesnt say anything about Marshmallon or any of the new cards however i doubt it would seeing as they have already been released in other places and already have there resitrictions. So other then those we might see a few more limitations or even bans. I have an odd feeling Spell and Trap Reclamation are getting semi limited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaoserver Posted August 17, 2007 Report Share Posted August 17, 2007 Cyberdark is a miscellanious deck. Sadly they are terrible, especially with cyberdark impact! being a taev secret. I fail to see how limiting snipe hunter and unbanning breaker helps anything when breaker kills snipe in terms of cheapness 90% of the time. Granted you can't get priority with breaker while summoning him but bleh. Marsmallons limited to 1 in japan and needs to be limited or banned here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sartorius Posted August 17, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 17, 2007 It will be. We have the exact same list as japan, but all those cards that are on the Jap list that we do not OFFICIALLY have released are left off the list until their official release. Ultimajik: Those cards suck, so no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Static Posted August 18, 2007 Report Share Posted August 18, 2007 It will be. We have the exact same list as japan' date=' but all those cards that are on the Jap list that we do not OFFICIALLY have released are left off the list until their official release. Ultimajik: Those cards suck, so no.[/quote'] Then the only thing I would like to know is if Shield crush is limited in japanese, because if it isn't, then I gotta get some skill drains and make a completely new deck. (already have one shield crush :) ) oh and making jinzo two and decree two is the most retarded thing ive ever heard. The 3-1 for decree-jinzo made more sense than banning The Forceful Sentry. Decree can be easily killed by twisters and jinzo is almsot invincible in this new format. Bah, now I need E controllers as well. *sigh* whatever, this list fails and needs to die. Nobleman to 2, questionable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragons-4-lyfe Posted August 18, 2007 Report Share Posted August 18, 2007 omfg you guys do realize this is the OCG banned/restricted list not TGC list right? its on the pojo site Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerryFreelance Posted August 18, 2007 Report Share Posted August 18, 2007 omfg you guys do realize this is the OCG banned/restricted list not TGC list right? its on the pojo site OCG and TCG banlist are the same thing lol. But OCG has OCG-only cards on it as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Father Wolf Posted August 18, 2007 Report Share Posted August 18, 2007 wow demise decks and monarch decks will be lowerd in effectiveness X3 wewt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkguy00000 Posted August 18, 2007 Report Share Posted August 18, 2007 Um... wtf? Are this lot on drugs? WHY DG RECKONS THIS LOT ARE IDIOTS: Confiscation: This doesn't deserve to be banned. It deserves to be limited, it wasn't broken at one, it didn't change games at one, it wasn't bad enough to warrant semi-limitation, therefore it can stay at one. Ring of Destruction: I can admit defeat on this point: it's free face-up monster destruction + burn damage. It's a cheap card. Snatch Steal: I don't know why this came off in the first place. This thing is a better topdeck than Breaker could ever aspire to. Metamorphosis: From 1 to 2 to 0? I doubt that'll happen, and anyway, getting Ryu Senshi/Cyber Twin Dragon thrown at you can't be that bad. This card required skill, it doesn't generate massive card advantage on its' own, it had a fairly stringent requirement, therefore it can stay at two and maybe go to one, but banning it outright's plain idiotic. LIMITED LISTMagician of Faith: Ergh, if they implement the rest of this list I don't know if it would make it better or worse (on one hand, you have more things to eradicate it, on the other, you have more, and better, targets for it to hit). I think you could get away with putting it on or leaving it off, it all hinges on the rest of the list. Breaker: I never really played a format starring Breaker prominently so I can't really say, but what with all our new chainable spell-traps, I think his effect'd be nullified somewhat. He's still MST with 1600 ATK body attached, and I don't think he's ready to come off. D-Hero Disk Commander: Pull the other one, it's got bells on. PC's not a threat anymore. Card Trooper: Deserves to at least not be at three due to Trooplication. A limit might be unnecessary, but definitely at least at two. Trooplication and Limiter's won too many games for it to be left alone. Megamorph + The Transmigration Prophecy + Wall of Revealing Light: People run this enough to warrant limiting? Did I miss the tournament where these cards got broken? Smashing Ground + Fissure: Um, no. Please? Put Jinzo at two and then take away face-up monster destruction AND Brain Control AND Snatch? We won't be able to do anything to bloody Jinzo! And outside Gadgets nobody ran three of either (or even one Fissure) anyway. Snipe Hunter: He's definitely a dangerous card, and his potential to fuel OTK's is unhealthy. But... limitation? I'm not sure, but I won't mind watching to see how it pans out. Brain Control: This, I think, might be regrettably necessary. Brain Control's becoming the cornerstone of too many out-of-the-blue OTK combos. Brain Control + Raiza has become an absolutely deadly play to even the most carefully guarded field positions. Trap Dustshoot: Two is more than sufficient. Limitation's a bit extreme. SEMI-LIMITED D-Hero Malicious: Might as well have banned him. I don't think Malicious is broken, just hit D-Draw and Malicious falls over by his cruddy level. Jinzo: He firiingz hiz laz0r! Omfggg!1!!eleven! It's everyone's most annoying robot with laser-beam eyesight! And now there's two of the buggers! I can genuinely see decks running two Jinzo(s?), and it scares me to death. Leave him limited. Pot of Avarice: As chaos said, nobody would use two. Don't care, honestly. Nobleman of Crossout: Lol, I actually believe that people would stop running things like Dekoichi if this got implemented. Barely any way to eradicate face-ups, but with Shield Crush we have all-new ways to punish setting things. Great, isn't it? Gadgets: Is that really necessary? Honestly? Royal Decree: What idiot decides to put both Jinzo AND Decree at two? Decree = 3, Jinzo = 1, because it's so damn easy to kill Decree. Twisters, Dust Tornado, MST, and Heavy Storm, Mobius, etc. Jinzo, on the other hand, not so easy to eradicate. Plus Decree isn't a 2400 beatstick. UNLIMITED STUFFD.D. Assailant: Probably their way of saying: we'll take away all face-up removal, and we'll give you this. D.D. Assailant's fine and all but it's no substitute for Smashing Ground. DDV: I doubt you could get a hold of three to run, but I doubt you would anyway. It'd be too cluttery, it requires a specific and fairly stringent cost, and it's not always useful. It should be fine. Good Goblin Housekeeping: Our replacement for Graceful Charity? Yeah, whatever, this is fine at three. Protector of the Sanctuary: ... why was this limited in the first place? It has a potentially strong effect but it's not broken or gamebreaking. This can sit tight and accumulate dust at three, because outside of "creative tech" nobody will ever use this. WHAT THEY SHOULD HAVE DONE: is merely semi-limited Scapegoat and Book of Moon, along with Dustshoot, and limited Trooper and Brain Control, plus bannage of Snatch and possibly of RoD. Possibly semi-limited Gravity Bind. That would fix up the hyper-aggressive mindset of this format, go back to slower, tempo games where it mattered how many cards you had in your hand and you couldn't flop three spells and win the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay.P. Posted August 18, 2007 Report Share Posted August 18, 2007 Ultimajik: Those cards suck' date=' so no.[/quote'] Not in Germany. They made an incorrect wording here. Here it says: Discard 1 card and chain this card to a Spell/Trap Card you activated. Everytime, that Spell/Trap Card is sent to the Graveyard, return it to its owner's hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaoserver Posted August 18, 2007 Report Share Posted August 18, 2007 Well said Darkguy. Im seriously hoping this is all swiftly reversed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sander Posted August 18, 2007 Report Share Posted August 18, 2007 yeah, if Megamorph is limited to 1, Demise OTK is gone for good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaoserver Posted August 18, 2007 Report Share Posted August 18, 2007 I could care less about demise, even though I only just made the deck. They killed OTK's but in the process many other things. But the games going to be boring, as almost all the deck types are dead... Meh, guess we have no choice but to see what happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Static Posted August 20, 2007 Report Share Posted August 20, 2007 Confiscation: This doesn't deserve to be banned. It deserves to be limited, it wasn't broken at one, it didn't change games at one, it wasn't bad enough to warrant semi-limitation, therefore it can stay at one. The only reason they would ban it that I can think of is because Magician of Faith is taking its turn at limited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yogg-Saron Posted August 20, 2007 Report Share Posted August 20, 2007 Elsandero.....Demise OTK is about one of the cheapest wins in the game today XD. But, this ban list kinda sucks.....but not really. I like Breaker and all but not when its used agaisnt me lol. And another thing, they shoulda put Crystal Seer at limited or semi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaoserver Posted August 20, 2007 Report Share Posted August 20, 2007 Confiscation: This doesn't deserve to be banned. It deserves to be limited' date=' it wasn't broken at one, it didn't change games at one, it wasn't bad enough to warrant semi-limitation, therefore it can stay at one.[/quote'] The only reason they would ban it that I can think of is because Magician of Faith is taking its turn at limited. Well, confiscation does give bit of a unfair early advantage. Whoever draws it off hand one usually wins the duel, especially at higher levels of play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibdo Posted August 20, 2007 Report Share Posted August 20, 2007 I like the list personally. I'm hoping it'll encourage some players to try new decktypes out. With less face-up monster removal more monsters are playable. With this list I'm already thinking up some ideas for Cyberdarks and Spellcasters. The Apprentince Monarch decktype may be seen as the best to go by with many, but with NoC at 2 and Shield Crush coming out at 3, Snatch gone and Brain Control at 1 it won't be so easy to pull off. I'd write a lot more about this list and why I like it, but I won't go on... Shame about Card Trooper though. I love that little guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkguy00000 Posted August 20, 2007 Report Share Posted August 20, 2007 It's definitely encouraging a huge variation of decks. What really comes to mind are Crystal Beasts, who aren't really affected by this, and are in fact strengthened by the impact on Monarchs and Monarch variants. I can imagine a lot of rogue stuff to come to the fore very soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sartorius Posted August 20, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 20, 2007 I agree completely Jeremy. Also: Most decks in the next format will NEVER set a monster. Just for everyone's info he's another member of my IRL team: Team Vortex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the Snakey Wolf Lord Posted August 20, 2007 Report Share Posted August 20, 2007 this is an awesome banlist... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HORUS Posted August 21, 2007 Report Share Posted August 21, 2007 ^^ i wouldnt say that. its kind of unbalanced in my opinion. i mean, Breaker limited? MOF? Jinzo Semi? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sander Posted August 21, 2007 Report Share Posted August 21, 2007 OK and now I believe Sartorius with the new preview of the new Ban List, I just searched Gadget in YuGiOh Wikia and it stated that it's semi-limited in the Advanced Format in Japan (I had my doubts earlier of the New Ban List) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HORUS Posted August 22, 2007 Report Share Posted August 22, 2007 New List has been confirmed on official Website: http://entertainment.upperdeck.com/yugioh/en/gameplay/forbidden/advanced_current_new.aspx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkguy00000 Posted August 22, 2007 Report Share Posted August 22, 2007 Yep, this is our list as of September 1. Good luck everybody, and remember: never set anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Static Posted August 23, 2007 Report Share Posted August 23, 2007 Yep' date=' this is our list as of September 1. Good luck everybody, and remember: never set anything.[/quote'] I'm gonna risk magician of faith for now. But seers are undecked for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragonbatosai Posted August 23, 2007 Report Share Posted August 23, 2007 yeah, but e-hero decks might stand a chance now. well, neo spacian decks might stand a chance now. e-heros do blow. but neo spacian decks are unaffected by the new list. so my new deck wont be touched. yeaaaaah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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