Black Garden: Brainstorm Session

[Exiro]

 

When a monster is successfully Normal or Special Summoned, except by the effect of "Black Garden", halve that monster's ATK, and Special Summon 1 "Rose Token" (Plant-Type/DARK/Level 2/ATK 800/DEF 800) in Attack Position to the side of the field of the opponent of the summoning player. You can destroy this card and all face-up Plant-Type monsters on the field to select 1 monster in your Graveyard with the same ATK as the combined ATK of the destroyed monster(s) and Special Summon it.

 

Shedule:

• Discuss if this card is ban worthy
  
• Black Garden Brainstorm Session
  
• Discuss if this card is ban worthy
  

 

No matter how good a combo is compared to another, let's just name them, as long as it's actually a combo.

 

 

 

Gogogo.

[JesusofChaos™]

This+ Ultimate offering+ Secret Barrel/ Just Desserts = Profit?

[Guest PikaPerson01]

I'm a lazy hoe.

 

List Black Garden's effect.

[Exiro]

I'm a lazy hoe.

 

List Black Garden's effect.

 

*Links back to the discussion thread*

 

Joking, I'll edit the first post.

[Guest PikaPerson01]

DNA Surgery + This card = Lol Dark Hole (for all face up monsters)

 

... And revive a lolbeatstick plant, for lulz.

[Exiro]

DNA Surgery + This card = Lol Dark Hole (for all face up monsters)

 

... And revive a lolbeatstick plant' date=' for lulz.

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I don't think you can, unless you have a monster in your Grave that equals that number.

[Zeppeli Gyro Supreme]

It's not that good of a card, trust me. It is okay for stalling and such, but its uses other than that are minimal.

 

Summoning a monster with its effect isn't too easy, nor is keeping the game to your advantage while summoning tokens to your opponent's field while your monster's ATK is cut in half. A Jinzo turns into a pocket watch. However, monsters like Botanical Lion or others that increase their ATK thrive on this card.

 

EDIT: Interesting question though. If you Summoned something like Great Maju or Da Eiza, would its original ATK be decreased, or its total ATK after its effect is applied? Then what about monsters with continuous increasing effects? According to Shrink, it would not decrease its ATK at all o.o

[Psycho Shocker Android]

this / burden of the mighty + king tiger whanghu

[Zeppeli Gyro Supreme]

this / burden of the mighty + king tiger whanghu

But you fail yourself if you try to summon him after Black Garden is already out.

 

Also, could you answer my question in my other post?

[Exiro]

It's not that good of a card' date=' trust me. It is okay for stalling and such, but its uses other than that are minimal.

 

Summoning a monster with its effect isn't too easy, nor is keeping the game to your advantage while summoning tokens to your opponent's field while your monster's ATK is cut in half. A Jinzo turns into a pocket watch. However, monsters like Botanical Lion or others that increase their ATK thrive on this card.

 

EDIT: Interesting question though. If you Summoned something like Great Maju or Da Eiza, would its original ATK be decreased, or its total ATK after its effect is applied? Then what about monsters with continuous increasing effects? According to Shrink, it would not decrease its ATK at all o.o

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Since Gren Maju's effect is continuous, it's already applied when he's succesfully summoned, and since his effect isn't like The Wicked Avatar's, it's just the half of 400 * your rfp cards.

 

this / burden of the mighty + king tiger whanghu

But you fail yourself if you try to summon him after Black Garden is already out.

 

Also' date=' could you answer my question in my other post?

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1) You can summon him first, then use Black Garden. This is a good one.

 

2) Why do you want a question to be answered when it's already answered?

[Psycho Shocker Android]

this / burden of the mighty + king tiger whanghu

But you fail yourself if you try to summon him after Black Garden is already out.

 

Also' date=' could you answer my question in my other post?

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obv. you play tiger b4

 

for your question i'm not sure but since it doesn't state original attack it might cut their attack in half but i really doubt it

[Zeppeli Gyro Supreme]

Never mind, Shrink said "original ATK", so this card would decrease its ATK.... But, then again, it only activates when it's Summoned, and Gren Maju's ATK can change... Would it permanently decrease his ATK by half? o.O

 

Also, I was only saying that about Tiger so that you can realize how difficult it would be to run him, since his timing would have to be right.

[Exiro]

Black Garden + Crush Card Virus

You get a free target for CCV whenever you need it. Even though his summoned monsters may be halved in atk, it's still effective on his face-down, flip summoned monsters, his monsters in hand, that he draws and the monsters he already had on the field.

 

Black Garden + Plant Support

Weed, Pollinosis, Fragrance Storm, Tytannial, Obviousness.

 

Black Garden + Black Rose Dragon

When the opponent sets a monster, you can change it to atk mode and have it have 0 atk. Very handy if you summoned Black Rose Dragon after Black Garden and something like Gravekeeper's Spy would be hard to beat.

Also, 2 tokens + LV3 Tuner = Black Rose Dragon

 

Black Garden + Monarchs

Tokens will offer you Tribute fodder. Base a deck on it.

 

Black Garden + Vanity's Ruler

You get a beatstick and your opponent won't get the little beatsticks anymore, while you will get them. Laugh at your opponent.

Ojama Trio to speed it up.

 

Black Garden + The Wicked Eraser

His atk will get really high because of the tokens your opponent will get. Also, built-in nuke just in case.

Ojama Trio to speed it up.

 

Black Garden + Prime Material Dragon/Stardust Dragon

Unbeatable in battle and built-in protection.

 

Black Garden + Horus LV6

Horus' atk won't half, which is sexy. Also, some kind of protection.

 

Black Garden + Plasma + Pole Position

Assuming that Plasma, it won't die in battle. It also won't die by Spells thanks to Pole Position. It also won't die by monster effects.

[Exiro]

Bump. Here's a new Ultimate Tyranno OTK.

 

Black Garden + Ojama Trio + Ultimate Tyranno + Giant Trunade/Heavy Storm/Cold Wave

Activate Giant Trunade/Heavy Storm/Cold Wave before you summon Ultimate Tyranno.

 

Now, anyone else?