CrabHelmet Posted September 17, 2008 Report Share Posted September 17, 2008 Balanced support for a poor type. If it was dealing with Machines or Zombies or Warriors' date=' then we might have something for banning it (but only a little something). As it stands, REDRUM is nothing more then God in Dragon form, and nothing less than good themed support.[/quote'] The meta says hi. The meta says Im not a dragon buy some glasses DAD and JD aren't Dragons? Just because a handful of good cards of a specific Type exist doesn't mean that that Type is good - especially if those cards aren't designed to interact with said Type. Fiber Jar is Plant.Sinister Serpent is Reptile.Tribe-Infecting Virus is Aqua. That doesn't mean that Plants, Reptiles, and Aquas are good Types. What about Crossroads of Chaos? Also, Aquas will probably get stronger since it seems the Fifth D is Water. Treeborn Frog is also WATER. Look how much stronger it managed to make Aquas, eh? And I suppose Red Archfiend Dragon is now Pyro support on the grounds that it's FIRE? Red Archfiend Dragon is DARK, IIRC. Well, Black Rose Dragon is FIRE. I don't see him helping out Pyro's either. But it supported Plants. The second effect is nothing compared to the non-theme-specific field nuke that benefits every Synchro deck in existence. Last time I checked, Superancient Deepsea King Coelacanth supported Fish, and Fish still suck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kale Posted September 17, 2008 Report Share Posted September 17, 2008 Flute of the Summoning Dragon' date=' invincable and can attack.Best Dragon Card Ever. PERIOD.[/quote'] Chaos Emperor Dragon - Envoy of the End would like to talk to you sir. Dark Armed and Judgment would like their turn as well. i agree. this card is good, though i am not sure if it needs a prompt banning. sure, you can flood the field quick with it, but i am not sure if it needs to be banned for that power. Sixsams: summon Zanji, Special Summon Grandmaster and Great Shogun. 3 monsters for the price of one, bringing the ATK total to 6400. bannable cards? that is a poor example, but you get my point... im just not so sure that it needs to be banned... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chaos Pudding Posted September 17, 2008 Report Share Posted September 17, 2008 Best Dragon card? Nope, that title goes to CED-EotE. Then to DAD. Then to Judgment Dragon. But best Dragon support card? Quite possibly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aximil Posted September 18, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2008 DCJ is a bad card. >.> Actually' date=' I used to use one in my old Dragon deck. Let me guess, you're thinking "FTW!? What was he thinking?"[/quote'] No, "FTW" was not the acronym that popped into my head. There is nothing "For The Win" about running Dragon Capture Jar in *any* deck. lol, oops. It was supposed to say "WTF". But, it has actually helped me win several duels. My opponent would attack a Dragon of mine, barely being able to kill it, then I would use DCJ and Unity. This is a terrible strategy. Rather than rely on a 3+ card combo that relies on you having multiple monsters on the field and whose only effect is to negate an attack and inflict Life Point damage, you may as well use Magic Cylinder or Shrink. At least those wouldn't leave you unable to declare an attack. I have those in my deck too. I also have cards to get rid of the jar. But, I was just trying to say that it's not horrible in a Dragon deck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted September 18, 2008 Report Share Posted September 18, 2008 DCJ is a bad card. >.> Actually' date=' I used to use one in my old Dragon deck. Let me guess, you're thinking "FTW!? What was he thinking?"[/quote'] No, "FTW" was not the acronym that popped into my head. There is nothing "For The Win" about running Dragon Capture Jar in *any* deck. lol, oops. It was supposed to say "WTF". But, it has actually helped me win several duels. My opponent would attack a Dragon of mine, barely being able to kill it, then I would use DCJ and Unity. This is a terrible strategy. Rather than rely on a 3+ card combo that relies on you having multiple monsters on the field and whose only effect is to negate an attack and inflict Life Point damage, you may as well use Magic Cylinder or Shrink. At least those wouldn't leave you unable to declare an attack. I have those in my deck too. I also have cards to get rid of the jar. But, I was just trying to say that it's not horrible in a Dragon deck. The part where you're wrong is that it IS horrible not only in a Dragon deck but also in any deck at all. Even Gravity Bind would be a better choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aximil Posted September 18, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2008 Well, I keep winning. I may use weird and backwards strategies, but, I'm still one of the top 5 ranked duelists in Oregon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Static Posted September 18, 2008 Report Share Posted September 18, 2008 Balanced support for a poor type. If it was dealing with Machines or Zombies or Warriors' date=' then we might have something for banning it (but only a little something). As it stands, REDRUM is nothing more then God in Dragon form, and nothing less than good themed support.[/quote'] The meta says hi. The meta says Im not a dragon buy some glasses DAD and JD aren't Dragons? Just because a handful of good cards of a specific Type exist doesn't mean that that Type is good - especially if those cards aren't designed to interact with said Type. Fiber Jar is Plant.Sinister Serpent is Reptile.Tribe-Infecting Virus is Aqua. That doesn't mean that Plants, Reptiles, and Aquas are good Types. What about Crossroads of Chaos? Also, Aquas will probably get stronger since it seems the Fifth D is Water. Treeborn Frog is also WATER. Look how much stronger it managed to make Aquas, eh? And I suppose Red Archfiend Dragon is now Pyro support on the grounds that it's FIRE? Red Archfiend Dragon is DARK, IIRC. Well, Black Rose Dragon is FIRE. I don't see him helping out Pyro's either. But it supported Plants. The second effect is nothing compared to the non-theme-specific field nuke that benefits every Synchro deck in existence. Last time I checked, Superancient Deepsea King Coelacanth supported Fish, and Fish still suck. What are you talking about? Fish is delicious food, better than most meats mind you, and it lowers your risk of getting cancer, unlike red meats which will almost double it. Also, I lol'd at Aximil throughout this thread. Top 5 in Oregon and referencing DCJ is just not believable. I used to run A Legendary Ocean, I'm not a highly ranked player by any means, but you don't see me bragging about how good a card it was when I ran a deck that used it and liked it while I did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted September 18, 2008 Report Share Posted September 18, 2008 The logical conclusion is that either Aximil is a liar or everybody in Oregon sucks at this game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aximil Posted September 18, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2008 The logical conclusion is that either Aximil is a liar or everybody in Oregon sucks at this game.It's the second. And, I wasn't trying to brag. I was trying to prove a point that even a card like DCJ in a Dragon deck could help me be highly ranked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PikaPerson01 Posted September 18, 2008 Report Share Posted September 18, 2008 Well' date=' I keep winning. I may use weird and backwards strategies, but, I'm still one of the top 5 ranked duelists in Oregon.[/quote'] You thought Pyro Clock of Destiny gave your opponent another battle phase. You are a liar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Roxas Posted September 18, 2008 Report Share Posted September 18, 2008 Balanced support for a poor type. If it was dealing with Machines or Zombies or Warriors' date=' then we might have something for banning it (but only a little something). As it stands, REDRUM is nothing more then God in Dragon form, and nothing less than good themed support.[/quote'] The meta says hi. The meta says Im not a dragon buy some glasses DAD and JD aren't Dragons? Just because a handful of good cards of a specific Type exist doesn't mean that that Type is good - especially if those cards aren't designed to interact with said Type. Fiber Jar is Plant.Sinister Serpent is Reptile.Tribe-Infecting Virus is Aqua. That doesn't mean that Plants, Reptiles, and Aquas are good Types. What about Crossroads of Chaos? Also, Aquas will probably get stronger since it seems the Fifth D is Water. Treeborn Frog is also WATER. Look how much stronger it managed to make Aquas, eh? And I suppose Red Archfiend Dragon is now Pyro support on the grounds that it's FIRE? Red Archfiend Dragon is DARK, IIRC. Well, Black Rose Dragon is FIRE. I don't see him helping out Pyro's either. But it supported Plants. The second effect is nothing compared to the non-theme-specific field nuke that benefits every Synchro deck in existence. Last time I checked, Superancient Deepsea King Coelacanth supported Fish, and Fish still suck. Allow me to correct myself: I was only saying that Dragon's aren't a poor type because a lot of strong cards are Dragons. That doesn't necessarily mean that DAD and JD should be run in Dragon Decks, unless it's some sort of F.G.D. Deck with Reasoning and Monster Gate, but I'm not saying that anyone should try that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted September 18, 2008 Report Share Posted September 18, 2008 Balanced support for a poor type. If it was dealing with Machines or Zombies or Warriors' date=' then we might have something for banning it (but only a little something). As it stands, REDRUM is nothing more then God in Dragon form, and nothing less than good themed support.[/quote'] The meta says hi. The meta says Im not a dragon buy some glasses DAD and JD aren't Dragons? Just because a handful of good cards of a specific Type exist doesn't mean that that Type is good - especially if those cards aren't designed to interact with said Type. Fiber Jar is Plant.Sinister Serpent is Reptile.Tribe-Infecting Virus is Aqua. That doesn't mean that Plants, Reptiles, and Aquas are good Types. What about Crossroads of Chaos? Also, Aquas will probably get stronger since it seems the Fifth D is Water. Treeborn Frog is also WATER. Look how much stronger it managed to make Aquas, eh? And I suppose Red Archfiend Dragon is now Pyro support on the grounds that it's FIRE? Red Archfiend Dragon is DARK, IIRC. Well, Black Rose Dragon is FIRE. I don't see him helping out Pyro's either. But it supported Plants. The second effect is nothing compared to the non-theme-specific field nuke that benefits every Synchro deck in existence. Last time I checked, Superancient Deepsea King Coelacanth supported Fish, and Fish still suck. Allow me to correct myself: I was only saying that Dragon's aren't a poor type because a lot of strong cards are Dragons. That doesn't necessarily mean that DAD and JD should be run in Dragon Decks, unless it's some sort of F.G.D. Deck with Reasoning and Monster Gate, but I'm not saying that anyone should try that. And I was only saying that you were incorrect because containing a few monsters that are either staples or are good in theme decks that are not themed around that Type does not make said Type good. Just as Sinister Serpent doesn't stop Reptiles from being a poor type, Dark Armed Dragon doesn't stop Dragons from being a poor type. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Roxas Posted September 18, 2008 Report Share Posted September 18, 2008 Balanced support for a poor type. If it was dealing with Machines or Zombies or Warriors' date=' then we might have something for banning it (but only a little something). As it stands, REDRUM is nothing more then God in Dragon form, and nothing less than good themed support.[/quote'] The meta says hi. The meta says Im not a dragon buy some glasses DAD and JD aren't Dragons? Just because a handful of good cards of a specific Type exist doesn't mean that that Type is good - especially if those cards aren't designed to interact with said Type. Fiber Jar is Plant.Sinister Serpent is Reptile.Tribe-Infecting Virus is Aqua. That doesn't mean that Plants, Reptiles, and Aquas are good Types. What about Crossroads of Chaos? Also, Aquas will probably get stronger since it seems the Fifth D is Water. Treeborn Frog is also WATER. Look how much stronger it managed to make Aquas, eh? And I suppose Red Archfiend Dragon is now Pyro support on the grounds that it's FIRE? Red Archfiend Dragon is DARK, IIRC. Well, Black Rose Dragon is FIRE. I don't see him helping out Pyro's either. But it supported Plants. The second effect is nothing compared to the non-theme-specific field nuke that benefits every Synchro deck in existence. Last time I checked, Superancient Deepsea King Coelacanth supported Fish, and Fish still suck. Allow me to correct myself: I was only saying that Dragon's aren't a poor type because a lot of strong cards are Dragons. That doesn't necessarily mean that DAD and JD should be run in Dragon Decks, unless it's some sort of F.G.D. Deck with Reasoning and Monster Gate, but I'm not saying that anyone should try that. And I was only saying that you were incorrect because containing a few monsters that are either staples or are good in theme decks that are not themed around that Type does not make said Type good. Just as Sinister Serpent doesn't stop Reptiles from being a poor type, Dark Armed Dragon doesn't stop Dragons from being a poor type. Okay, so a few monsters don't make it's type good, I understand.[/argument] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aximil Posted September 18, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2008 Well' date=' I keep winning. I may use weird and backwards strategies, but, I'm still one of the top 5 ranked duelists in Oregon.[/quote'] You thought Pyro Clock of Destiny gave your opponent another battle phase. You are a liar. I never said I thought it did. I was checking to see if it worked that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psycho Shocker Android Posted September 18, 2008 Report Share Posted September 18, 2008 The logical conclusion is that either Aximil is a liar or everybody in Oregon sucks at this game. I think the answer is both... And now a little video of our favorite dragon in action (and by that i mean DAD LOL)http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_ssJ8QpGIM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PikaPerson01 Posted September 18, 2008 Report Share Posted September 18, 2008 LOL' date=' I was so close to say that cards is in one of my written card... But the Effect does not fit well... Click Here Lol, spam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigE181 Posted September 18, 2008 Report Share Posted September 18, 2008 Well, all i can say that the card have bad effect to use in duel. Even that the BEWD should be more effective again this monster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted September 18, 2008 Report Share Posted September 18, 2008 Well' date=' all i can say that the card have bad effect to use in duel. Even that the BEWD should be more effective again this monster.[/quote'] Go back to TCGPlayer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigE181 Posted September 18, 2008 Report Share Posted September 18, 2008 Well' date=' all i can say that the card have bad effect to use in duel. Even that the BEWD should be more effective again this monster.[/quote'] Go back to TCGPlayer. What you mean? I meant to say that "BESD" can be more effective against this monster cards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted September 18, 2008 Report Share Posted September 18, 2008 Well' date=' all i can say that the card have bad effect to use in duel. Even that the BEWD should be more effective again this monster.[/quote'] Go back to TCGPlayer. What you mean? I meant to say that "BESD" can be more effective against this monster cards. If you honestly believe that BESD is superior to REDMD, then I think TCGPlayer might be too good for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigE181 Posted September 18, 2008 Report Share Posted September 18, 2008 Well' date=' all i can say that the card have bad effect to use in duel. Even that the BEWD should be more effective again this monster.[/quote'] Go back to TCGPlayer. What you mean? I meant to say that "BESD" can be more effective against this monster cards. If you honestly believe that BESD is superior to REDMD, then I think TCGPlayer might be too good for you. Well, tell me all about TGCPlayer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted September 18, 2008 Report Share Posted September 18, 2008 Well' date=' all i can say that the card have bad effect to use in duel. Even that the BEWD should be more effective again this monster.[/quote'] Go back to TCGPlayer. What you mean? I meant to say that "BESD" can be more effective against this monster cards. If you honestly believe that BESD is superior to REDMD, then I think TCGPlayer might be too good for you. Well, tell me all about TGCPlayer? It's a Yu-Gi-Oh site for players of your calibre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corporal Posted September 19, 2008 Report Share Posted September 19, 2008 I saw some aqua-bashing in that quote tower and I'll just say that its best to treat aqua, fish, and sea serpent as one type seeing as they all carry the same theme. The more you get on the field, the more they power each other up. So with non-direct aqua-support cards like covering fire of Switch to protect your Star Boys while you play them, you'll soon have an unstoppable force. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PikaPerson01 Posted September 19, 2008 Report Share Posted September 19, 2008 I saw some aqua-bashing in that quote tower and I'll just say that its best to treat aqua' date=' fish, and sea serpent as one type seeing as they all carry the same theme. The more you get on the field, the more they power each other up. So with non-direct aqua-support cards like covering fire of Switch to protect your Star Boys while you play them, you'll soon have an unstoppable force.[/quote'] Wrong on EVERY point. They don't power each other up the more you get them on the field. Covering Fire and Switch aren't aqua-support, and they're not good either. No decent aqua deck runs Star Boy... or exists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonisanoob Posted September 19, 2008 Report Share Posted September 19, 2008 ---^ actually my lulzworthy starboy otk NEEDS them and its just about as easy to pull off than the batteyman otk so :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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