CrabHelmet Posted September 13, 2008 Report Share Posted September 13, 2008 Secret Sinister Serpent and Night Assailant topic. How many cards can you name with a generic discard cost - so not something like Destiny Draw, but something where any card can be discarded - that are currently balanced, but that would be banworthy if the discard cost was reduced by one? I'll give you one easy one to start with: Lightning Vortex. Go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
「tea.leaf」 Posted September 13, 2008 Report Share Posted September 13, 2008 Magic Jammer. Not bannable though, under any pretense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PikaPerson01 Posted September 13, 2008 Report Share Posted September 13, 2008 Pheonix Wing Wind BlastRaigeki Break Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppeli Gyro Supreme Posted September 13, 2008 Report Share Posted September 13, 2008 Snipe HunterA Feather of the Phoenix (if the decks got popular again)Back to Square OneCold EnchanterCybernetic Magician (Makes anything a beatstick)Damage Condenser (Probably not, though)Desert Twister (Depends if the right deck could be made)Frost and Flame Dragon EDIT: Editing the list for bannables. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
「tea.leaf」 Posted September 13, 2008 Report Share Posted September 13, 2008 You missed Tricky. A free 2000 ATK monster would be nice, eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fh-Fh Posted September 13, 2008 Report Share Posted September 13, 2008 Hand Destruction. Balanced draw card that is splashable in almost any deck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Judgment Dragon Posted September 13, 2008 Report Share Posted September 13, 2008 Prime Material Dragon. Maybe bannable if its discard cost was thrown out the window. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppeli Gyro Supreme Posted September 13, 2008 Report Share Posted September 13, 2008 Prime Material Dragon. Maybe bannable if its discard cost was thrown out the window.Would be much better than Stardust Dragon for monster destruction negation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Duelist2 Posted September 13, 2008 Report Share Posted September 13, 2008 Snipe Hunter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PikaPerson01 Posted September 13, 2008 Report Share Posted September 13, 2008 Snipe Hunter. ... that are currently balanced' date=' but that would be banworthy if the discard cost was reduced by one?[/quote'] Oops! You're wrong! On-topic: DDR? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazer Yoshi Posted September 13, 2008 Report Share Posted September 13, 2008 Graceful Charity FTW.Think about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tabris Posted September 13, 2008 Report Share Posted September 13, 2008 Magical Stone Exacavation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Judgment Dragon Posted September 13, 2008 Report Share Posted September 13, 2008 MSE would probably become more splashable and more widely used if it was discard 1 card for its effect but then again it would also make it banworthy. And Graceful Charity is already banned. And so it should. That card is unbelieveably splashable and has a powerful drawing effect. Pot of Greed even doesnt allow you to draw 3 cards. Does the discard really hurt with Graceful Charity? The only other card that lets you draw 3 cards is Beginning of the End which is so unbelievably unsplashable, extremely situational and not good if drawn early. Its a free +2 but the situationalness and unsplashability doesnt really help when duels can last just a few turns. There isnt that many decks, not now anyway that can easily get 7 DARKs in the Grave in one turn or a few turns if any. This was an answer to someones suggestion about reducing Graceful Charity's 2 card discard to 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pizzaman Posted September 13, 2008 Report Share Posted September 13, 2008 I guess most of the cards used a lot right now that would become bannable if the cost was removed have been mentioned already. Wait, Divine Wrath. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tabris Posted September 13, 2008 Report Share Posted September 13, 2008 Anyhow, since Crab also included Night Assailant, what cards would benefit if it were at 2 or 3? Me first! Dark Crusader! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
「tea.leaf」 Posted September 13, 2008 Report Share Posted September 13, 2008 Tribute to the Doomed? (I dunno...) Graceful Charity doesn't count, since it's discard is not a cost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fh-Fh Posted September 13, 2008 Report Share Posted September 13, 2008 Rising Energy (Better Rush with no cost) Destruction Jammer (Kinda Iffy, I'm not really sure) Non Agression Area (Big middle finger to your opponent) Monster Reincarnation (Definately) Herald of Creation, Hallowed Life Barrier, Cold Enchanter, the list goes on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exiro Posted September 13, 2008 Report Share Posted September 13, 2008 Karma Cut. Hand Destruction. It's not a cost. Graceful Charity FTW.Think about it. 1) It's already banworthy.2) It's not a cost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axiom_Nor Posted September 13, 2008 Report Share Posted September 13, 2008 Cursed Seal of the Forbidden Spell. (Limit worthy then, free -2 in dead draws) Spell Vanishing. (Not that playable VS Cursed seal, same cost, worse effect) Carrierroid. (S/T Protection, unlimited) Cold Enchanter. (Rigged with Ice Master.) DDM. (Once per turn keeps less rigged, unless a CoSR for DD comes out) Cyber Gymnist. (at least a +0, or more with some combos, not banned) Kuriboh. (No LP loss, ever. Limit) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesusofChaos™ Posted September 13, 2008 Report Share Posted September 13, 2008 E-Hero Wild Wingman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chaos Pudding Posted September 13, 2008 Report Share Posted September 13, 2008 Gladiator Beast Herk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dad Posted September 13, 2008 Report Share Posted September 13, 2008 Tribe Infecting Virus. ~Xemnas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chaos Pudding Posted September 13, 2008 Report Share Posted September 13, 2008 Tribe Infecting Virus. ~Xemnas Really toeing the line on the "balanced with a discard". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dad Posted September 13, 2008 Report Share Posted September 13, 2008 I know. Just thought I'd try the whole "this card would change the meta if returning" thingy. ~Xemnas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppeli Gyro Supreme Posted September 13, 2008 Report Share Posted September 13, 2008 Cursed Seal of the Forbidden Spell. (Limit worthy then' date=' free -2 in dead draws) Kuriboh. (No LP loss, ever. Limit)[/quote']Cursed Seal has a specific discard. And you missed the first line of this topic. Kuriboh also has a specific card discard. Himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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