ragnarok1945 Posted January 4, 2009 Report Share Posted January 4, 2009 Yes, it's been stated over and over again if we can accomplish fusion, mankind's energy problems will be solved right away. But we're still at least decades from that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrometheusMFD Posted January 4, 2009 Report Share Posted January 4, 2009 Ok, so our current best energy source is Nuclear Power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted January 4, 2009 Report Share Posted January 4, 2009 which by now is causing also a lot of concern due to so much radioactive waste Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrometheusMFD Posted January 4, 2009 Report Share Posted January 4, 2009 Radioactive waste (which is miniscule in current Nuclear Power Plants) has less radiation than the background radiation in New York City. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted January 4, 2009 Report Share Posted January 4, 2009 that's true, but eventually it's going to build up to the point where it can't be ignored Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Prince_of_Death Posted January 4, 2009 Report Share Posted January 4, 2009 If we could cause fusion then what are the consequences? when the fusion is complete and is contained it will try to grow larger and leak out of its container. If it grows too big it could possibly be to big to reverse and impossible to stop from enveloping the planet, litterally cooking us alive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrometheusMFD Posted January 4, 2009 Report Share Posted January 4, 2009 Fusion is limited to the fuel you give it (both quantity and element). A pound of Hydrogen can produce a fusion reaction about the size of a human. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted January 4, 2009 Report Share Posted January 4, 2009 that's the problem problem with the H-bomb. The fusion causes the hydrogen to rapidly expand so it can cool down (that's what creates such a huge blast radius) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Prince_of_Death Posted January 4, 2009 Report Share Posted January 4, 2009 yes but it will either continue to grow or weaken to the point where we have to keep feeding it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted January 4, 2009 Report Share Posted January 4, 2009 right, that's why the blast radius dies down because there's no more heat left to feed. We have to feed the fusion energy sphere to prevent it from dying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrometheusMFD Posted January 4, 2009 Report Share Posted January 4, 2009 Every form of energy needs to be refueled, but if you build a Fusion Reactor Core correctly, the only places the fusion can expand to will feed it back into itself. And a pound of Hydrogen once a year seems like an easy energy source. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Prince_of_Death Posted January 4, 2009 Report Share Posted January 4, 2009 causing it to grow but it might weaken and still grow, like the sun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted January 4, 2009 Report Share Posted January 4, 2009 that is true, but we have yet to be able to establish that balance properly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrometheusMFD Posted January 4, 2009 Report Share Posted January 4, 2009 But if you feed it back into itself, than all that growth is used to compact itself causing it to strengthen! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted January 4, 2009 Report Share Posted January 4, 2009 if you feed it back into itself it's contradictory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Prince_of_Death Posted January 4, 2009 Report Share Posted January 4, 2009 yes but it will continue to feed on its self causing a black hole in the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted January 4, 2009 Report Share Posted January 4, 2009 a black hole? Once it's done feeding on itself wouldn't that be it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrometheusMFD Posted January 4, 2009 Report Share Posted January 4, 2009 A black hole is matter compressed into an infinitely (literally) small particle (also known as a singularity). Feeding a fusion reaction into itself would only lead to it dissipating a lot slower. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted January 4, 2009 Report Share Posted January 4, 2009 plus nothing escapes a black hole, unlike a fusion reactor sphere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrometheusMFD Posted January 4, 2009 Report Share Posted January 4, 2009 They only thing we have to worry about from a fusion reaction is magnetism. So Nickle or Cobalt in the reactor core would be a bad idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted January 4, 2009 Report Share Posted January 4, 2009 we know that, but we can easily make precautions to prevent something like that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Prince_of_Death Posted January 4, 2009 Report Share Posted January 4, 2009 if the fusion core continues to eat its self it will try to eat eveything around it too, causing a black hole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted January 4, 2009 Report Share Posted January 4, 2009 but it has to dissipate energy. A black hole doesn't do that (it swallows EVERYTHING) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrometheusMFD Posted January 4, 2009 Report Share Posted January 4, 2009 A black hole isn't self sustaining, hell, it isn't even energy anymore. It is solid mass 0.000(to infinity)1 units in diameter, radius, circumference, and volume. It is super gravity.Also, you need the energy and gravity created in a super nova to create a black hole (which is why I also think that black hole think late in 2008 was a load of crap) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted January 4, 2009 Report Share Posted January 4, 2009 it had to be EXTREMELY high energy after the supernova anyway, or it'll just become new star afterwards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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