:: Roleplay Section Improvements Discussion ::

[Shadow Zero]

that is your choice , otaku-sama. however, be sure to exclude the thought processes and spoken word of the characters, okay? otherwise, i can almost guarantee that the rp would die before it reaches its twentieth page.

[Otaku-sama]

=( That's mean man...I meant I'll just ban First person because it restricts thought processes and spoken word. Man...People can be so mean some times... T_T

[fenrir]

=( That's mean man...I meant I'll just ban First person because it restricts thought processes and spoken word. Man...People can be so mean some times... T_T

 

How does it restrict it? I can pull of a post in first person as easily as a third person post. :/

[Otaku-sama]

Problem is, most 'good' RPers are people who use third person and...

To hell with it. Forget what I just said.

[Shadow Zero]

*sighs* misunderstanding-kun, this post from an rp that i am in is what i meant.

 

[spoiler=the post]

Ranmyaku suddenly notices a flare of chaotic energies. He knew that it wasn't here, but he knew that it was very, very close. Warp time. After receiving his answer from Valyenciarn, He suddenly disappears, using his own abilities in tandem with the powers derived from his own Requiem Gem to appear in the air behind S.H.A.D.O.W. "Boot to the head!" He delivers a front kick to the back of S.H.A.D.O.W.s head, sending him flying a considerable distance forward. "You called?" He said, clearly relishing the possibility of a good fight, although he had decided to go back to his Shikai state so as to give himself more of a challenge.

Once Ranmyaku had left, Leo approaches Valyenciarn and asks "Would you mind training with me? I need someone really strong to help keep me in a state where I am constantly pushed to my limits."

 

 

lolboottothehead

anyway, that is what i meant, misunderstanding-kun. does this help?

[Welche the crab]

One big problem. HOW DO WE KNOW IF IT IS 4 LINES? THE BOX WE TYPE IN IS SMALLER THEN THE BOX THAT IS IS POSTED IN!!!!!!

[Skuldur]

Wow. I asked for someone's help on something' date=' and I get no answers?

How is this possible? =/

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Preview Post say hi.

[Shadow Zero]

Welche, Do what I do. Assume that 1.5 lines of postage equals one whole line of RP postage. That way, By the time you get to the end of the sixth line, You know that you have enough. However, that is not the question that you should be asking yourself. The question you should be asking yourself is, 'how can I find this out on my own and then contribute as much to the RP that I am in as possible even when needing to mind the four line minimum limit?'

 

And I estimate that the above block has approximately 3.5 lines of postage. *goes to look*

 

I was right! :D

[Welche the crab]

Thanks for the idea.

[Shadow Zero]

Sure thing. Now go forth and spread the knowledge please. :D

 

And why have I not gotten further comments on my Code Geass RP idea?

[Frybread002]

Well I seriously gotten bummed out by reading page after page of comment, and pointless conversations (namely the begining of this thread).

 

Now I never RP before, but I've joined an RP just recently, but it became locked the very same hour I've joined. The reason it became locked was because the creator, and his fellow RPers didn't follow that 4 text rule, or whatever. But ironicly, that very same thread became an example.

 

Here's an excrept the recent annoucement regaurding the 4 line rule:

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Hime patted Rina on the back.

"I'm sorry for slapping you, Rina."

She then went over to Xandi and kicked her in the ribs.

"Get up, b***h! You can sleep back on Olympus Station, or when you die in 26 minutes when the Avatars firebomb your lazy ass!"

 

What it really turns out to be:

 

 

Hime patted Rina on the back. "I'm sorry for slapping you, Rina." She then went over to Xandi and kicked her in the ribs. "Get up, b***h! You can sleep back on Olympus Station, or when you die in 26 minutes when the Avatars firebomb your lazy ass!"

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Now the correct version has three lines, and if I remember correctly, the rule is that each post must have four lines. Now something this trival would most likely be untouched. But what I don't get is the difference betweens the supposed "Wrong" and "Right" varriations.Wouldn't the "Wrong" one count as the 4-Line rule? Or do you do you have to keep the same conversation on the same sentence? Like the "Right" way?

 

What is also buggin me about this quite recently anoucment is what if you were also RPing as 2 characters at the same time, and you had to make the grammer in this following manner:

 

"Stop! Or I'll shoot!" shouted Ray towards, Steve. Who was the biggest petty theif in Cibecue.

"Ray! Don't shoot! He's not guilty!" Responded his parthner, Ace.

"Why not!? He may be an petty thief, but he killed innocent people!"

 

(I've just made that one up on the fly).

 

Again, I've never RPed before, so what I'm saying isn't probably allowed, but what if you in this position, and your RP gotten locked, lets say by a certain someone who locked the very first RP I've joined. Not trying to start an fight, it's just now that I look back on it, it's funny. Getting back to the point here. What if your in that position, and the thread became locked, because your just doing a conversation between two characters (that you've made), and you have to do an space, to make the flow of the conversation more readable.

 

With all that being said, I think you guys should make the line count at three. Since I'm trying to get my very first RP going, but I'm not yet experienced with RPing, and afraid that my thread may become locked.

 

P.S. Does anyone know when the "Witchblade: Bio Wars" RP will be unlocked?

[Hydra of Ages]

This is an easy one. You see, it's not that that sort of sentence organization is not allowed, it's just that you aren't allowed to try and use it to cheat the Four-Line Rule. The problem is that people try to argue that since the 'Wrong' example has four lines (even though they aren't full lines), they count for the Four-Line Rule.

 

The four line rule means four COMPLETE lines. Using your example...

 

"Stop! Or I'll shoot!" shouted Ray towards, Steve. Who was the biggest petty theif in Cibecue.

"Ray! Don't shoot! He's not guilty!" Responded his parthner, Ace.

"Why not!? He may be an petty thief, but he killed innocent people!"

 

... is unacceptable because, even though the formatting shows it as four lines, it is, in reality, only...

 

"Stop! Or I'll shoot!" shouted Ray towards, Steve. Who was the biggest petty theif in Cibecue. "Ray! Don't shoot! He's not guilty!" Responded his parthner, Ace. "Why not!? He may be an petty thief, but he killed innocent people!"

 

...so many lines. You are allowed to do it in the former formatting, but if you do, you have to write more in order to compensate for the difference. For example, here would be a 'fixed' version of your example...

 

"Stop! Or I'll shoot!" shouted Ray towards, Steve. Who was the biggest petty theif in Cibecue.

Steve looked shocked that he had been targetted like that, and nervously ruffled his red ascot.

"Ray! Don't shoot! He's not guilty!" Responded his partner, Ace.

"Why not!? He may be an petty thief, but he killed innocent people!" Ray retaliated, his handgun trained on the enemy with expert's precision, though his shaky grip and sweaty palms revealed his misgivings about the situation.

 

...That's actually a bit longer than the requirement, but there you go.

[Frybread002]

Hmm.....I think I got it. So I can still use my example, but if only I put in more detail. Correct BlazingHydra?

 

Just another example to get this memorized. and again, made up on the fly:

 

(One without detail, and not using the proper editing use, which would be considered wrong.)

 

"Erin was looking down at his desk drawing when said to Ian. "Do you wanna hike Lonely Mountain?"

"No. I'll pass" Said Ian, who was only interest playing Erin's PS2.

"*Sigh* Your a lazy butt you know that?"

"Hey, hey, I've just beaten this guy. Leave me alone"

 

(Same thing, but used in the right formating. But still wrong, because of the lack of details)

 

"Erin was looking down at his desk drawing when said to Ian. "Do you wanna hike Lonely Mountain?" "No. I'll pass" Said Ian, who was only interest playing Erin's PS2.

"*Sigh* Your a lazy butt you know that?" "Hey, hey, I've just beaten this guy. Leave me alone"

 

 

(Just like the first example, but with more detail, and it would be considered right. Right?)

 

"Erin was looking down at his desk drawing when said to Ian. "Do you wanna hike Lonely Mountain?" Since all he was doing was just being glued to the t.v. playing Soul Calibur 3.

"No. I'll pass" Said Ian, who was only interest playing Erin's PS2, and look like he was really having a tough time to beat Nightmare.

"*Sigh* Your a lazy butt you know that?" which you can obivisouly sense the tone of stress in his voice

"Hey, hey, I've just beaten this guy. Leave me alone." But you can tell he was excited after beating his virtual opponent.

 

With the last example, I'd still put space in between the conversation of the two characters, but I'd put detail into it. So with that being said, would that be considered "Right"?

[Shadow Zero]

Looks like that would be good. As long as what you are typing is four full lines and contributed something to the rp, I really don't see as anyone would have an issue with it.

 

Anyway, As a more experienced RPer (at least when compared to you, Frybread002), I would like to suggest to you that you assume that an approximate of 1.5 lines of postage in the reply boxes is roughly the equivalent of 4 to 5 lines of actual RP postage, okay?

 

I estimate that the above block is approximately 1.75 to 2.25 lines long. *goes to look*

 

I was right! :D

[Spirit of DMG]

I can think of one very good way to improve the RP section, right now: Stop holding it up to the same standards of Fan Fictions. Heres why: Fanfics are like books, say, Harry Potter. Role Plays are more like, well, plays, say, MacBeth.

 

As such, they should be given separate sections, and separate standards.

 

Now, I understand the 4-line rule. They don't want Uber-short posts. But, what happens if someone finds themselves in a situation that requires very little action, and little or no speech, and only end up taking 2 lines to do what needs to be done to move the story along? Are they supposed to take up another 2 lines of un-related BS?

[Frybread002]

To Shadow Zero:

 

Don't do a cheap copy and paste. Yes, I seen you did it in way earlier posts. But thanks for the advice, since it actually does work. But as for a more experience RPer.......well it's not that I suck, it's exactly what you said, I'm not experienced. But in terms of story-telling. Well I think I can beat you.

 

To Donovyn Mikara Gerra:

Well I'm still reading all the posts (I'm currently at page 14), and they pretty much disscussed that already. But I think I can see why your suggesting that. But I believe that they already have it. Since "Fan-Fics" is the first fourm, and "Role-Play" is just a sub fourm that goes into the "Fan-Fics". But if I'm completely off base, apologzies.

 

Aside from that:

 

Well pretty much going into what she just said here, I think there should be 2 different types of RPs. One where it can be considered original. For example, the RP that I want to do is one where I completely made up. And another one, where it can be for RPs that are based off of Pokemon, Yugioh, Witchblade, and ETC.

 

Now I'm not saying to create an entirely new page dedicated to these two, but I'm just saying, is it possible to separate the two? Since the recent RPs that I visted (for refrerence on how they do theres) are mostly related to T.V shows, and stuff. And all want to vist is just original RPs.

 

P.S. Again, I'm new, and I'm currently at page 14 of this thread, so I'm not sure if this been recently suggested yet.

[Hydra of Ages]

I can think of one very good way to improve the RP section' date=' right now: Stop holding it up to the same standards of Fan Fictions. Heres why: Fanfics are like books, say, Harry Potter. Role Plays are more like, well, plays, say, MacBeth.

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...Uhm, no they aren't. Rps have less in common with plays than they do novels. If anything, Rps are similar to Tabletop RPG games, except with less rules and no dice tosses.

 

Also, the Rp section and Fanfiction section have a different set of rules. Don't believe me? Check.

 

Now' date=' I understand the 4-line rule. They don't want Uber-short posts. But, what happens if someone finds themselves in a situation that requires very little action, and little or no speech, and only end up taking 2 lines to do what needs to be done to move the story along? Are they supposed to take up another 2 lines of un-related BS?

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If you're in a situation that requires little action, and has little dialogue, take the opportunity to develop your character. Have your characters muse to themselves, or look around, or make idle chitchat with the other people. Even if it doesn't have to do DIRECTLY with the plot, character development is possibly the most important part of an RPG. If you're in a situation where you can't even somehow develop your character, than you're obviously not in a particularly well-made RP (I, personally, have never been in the situation where I couldn't fill 4 lines).

 

 

To Shadow Zero:

 

Don't do a cheap copy and paste. Yes' date=' I seen you did it in way earlier posts. But thanks for the advice, since it actually does work. But as for a more experience RPer.......well it's not that I suck, it's exactly what you said, I'm not experienced. But in terms of story-telling. Well I think I can beat you.

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Ooo, a challenge (To S. Zero). Only one way to solve this... Head-To-Head Role-Play Combat! Two players enter, one leaves! Then the other leaves after being crowned the victor! I can see it now!

 

 

To Donovyn Mikara Gerra:

Well I'm still reading all the posts (I'm currently at page 14)' date=' and they pretty much disscussed that already. But I think I can see why your suggesting that. But I believe that they already have it. Since "Fan-Fics" is the first fourm, and "Role-Play" is just a sub fourm that goes into the "Fan-Fics". But if I'm completely off base, apologzies.

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You're mostly on-base, yeah. Fanfics and Roleplays are governed separately, even though you'll occasionally see the same regulars in both places. For one, the Roleplay forum is far more volatile (It erupted into a full-blown Civil War when the 4-line clause was made mandatory).

 

 

Well pretty much going into what she just said here' date=' I think there should be 2 different types of RPs. One where it can be considered original. For example, the RP that I want to do is one where I completely made up. And another one, where it can be for RPs that are based off of Pokemon, Yugioh, Witchblade, and ETC.

 

Now I'm not saying to create an entirely new page dedicated to these two, but I'm just saying, is it possible to separate the two? Since the recent RPs that I visted (for refrerence on how they do theres) are mostly related to T.V shows, and stuff. And all want to vist is just original RPs.

 

P.S. Again, I'm new, and I'm currently at page 14 of this thread, so I'm not sure if this been recently suggested yet.

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I support this one. I think the major flaw of this forum is that it's rather unorganized.

 

We do have original RPs, but they're spread rather thin. I think it's easier to adapt a plot from an existing fiction source, which is why fan-RPs are far more popular, but there's a solid core of us here who make originals now and then.

[Frybread002]

Fiendish Dr. Hydra!! You've gone and F***** up bigged time by doing that!!! MWAHAHAHAHA!!!!!! Sorry, I've just watched a movie recently called "Black Dynamite" and if your into paradies, and bad, but purposely done, editing. I recommend you to this.

 

 

Aside from that:

 

Well thank you for agreeing with me here Hydra. About the part of the separating the Originals, and Fan RPs, and I also see what you mean about Original made ones are few, while Fan made ones are easier to create, but what I asked, is it possible to do this. But I am gonna have to disagree with you on the part about the four line rule part. Since I've did thought of this situation, and I wanna put you, yes you Fiendish Dr. Hydra. In this situation:

 

After the attack on Lance's group ended, he was making sure that everyone was okay on his 4 man training excercise. Which the attack was not planed. "Is everyone okay? Akira, Hi'hime, Diego"

"Yes we're fine." "Me too." "I really don't need your concen."

"Okay then. Before anything else happends, you three watch over our target (that's you Hyrda), and make sure he's okay, and I'll do a little reconasice."

"Yes sir!-" before the three traine's could finish Lance replied "Keep it down!" he said in a low voice. "I don't want any talking, and movement, so for now, go hide in the nearby bushes." As the three traine's were walking away, Lance was tracking his attacker, and surveying the area, trying to see if he'll come back, of if there were more.

 

That's your part, so using what you just said, try to "Develope" your character. Oh yeah, one more thing, I've also came up with on how to deal with this situation here, but I want to see how you do it.

 

This one......well it's being put into a manga I'm doing right now, (I'm an amature manga artist, and I've also posted the first 6 chapters in the Fan-Fics. So check it out when you have time.

[Hydra of Ages]

Tch, that's an easy one. I'm obviously somewhat confused on the circumstances here, but hell,

 

[spoiler=I have a doctorate in Fiendishology]

 

The megalomaniac Doctor F. I. Endish Hydra thought people were out to get him. They were hiding in the bushes, ready to attack him at a moment's notice. They were silent- too silent- and it was this perfection in their hiding techniques that gave them away.

Or, he was just insane. That was a possibility too.

Truth be told, Frederick Ienzo Endish Hydra ALWAYS thought people were out to get him. Quiet people, noisy people, didn't really matter- whatever it was, they were trying to slit his throat, steal his manuscripts, get in his pants, or do all three with a squeegee brush. Heck, they even went to the extent to evolve telepathic powers simply so they could look into his mind.

 

Luckilly, Hydra thought to himself, I'm always one step ahead.

Prepared with his swirly-eye goggles that prevented mesmerization, a tinfoil hat to protect his cranium, and enough lucky bangles to drive off a Ninja Pirate Robot Vampire Werewolf, he strolled defiantly into what he assumed was a trap. Though this would normally sound bold, one would need to keep in mind the good doctor's mental state; Every four seconds he was strolling into enemy territory, every minute into a possible ambush, and every moment he was under a million creature's hit lists. He was a very brave man, or so he believed, for walking into so many traps so brazenly.

 

The fact that this, particular trap happened to be an ACTUAL ambush was completely coincidental, unfortunately.

 

 

 

And there we go. Was that adequate, or did it not meet some stipulation I overlooked?

[Otaku-sama]

By God Hydra, you are a literary genius. Frybread, you were foolish to doubt the mighty Blazinghydra in his element.

 

The four line limit is pretty easy to fulfill if you know what you're doing. Only problem is, not many people know how to. Now that I think about it, isn't there a sticky about how to write four lines already?

[Frybread002]

..........HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

 

Well Fiendish Dr. Hydra, you passed my little test, and no, you didn't go over the stipulation. But what I was thinking was simple that character was thinking to himself, like "I might die!" and is thinking of past experiences. But you out done it. But if were playing by the rules of my manga, I think Lance would've seriously hurt The megalomaniac Doctor F. I. Endish Hydra for disobeying him. Speaking of your little made character. Is it possible that I could make a character named, and based after him?

 

To Donovyn Mikara Gerra:

Well even though I'm not that experienced at RPing, I hope our dumb, yet ammussing example helps you with future conviences.

 

Aside from that:

 

Well this is just a little thought that could help other people with the rules. What I noticed in past disscusions, we had to use the ADVANCED TAG system, but is now abolished. But what I didn't get was the ADVANCED TAG system, which do get now. Hats off to Shadius, and Rine. Getting back to the point here, I don't know what the BASIC system works for an RP, and I haven't seen an explanation for it yet. So I think someone should do something about that.

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Yeah!!!! My comment is the first one on a new page!!!

[Hydra of Ages]

BASIC and ADVANCED tag systems were a compromise made when we were thinking about making Advanced (four line) rule mandatory. If you wanted to abide by the rule, you put (Advanced) in the title, and if you did now want to abide, you put (Basic).

 

Since then, we've made it mandatory to use Advanced Rules (it's now called Four-Line rule), so there's no point to putting the tags in the title anymore. Any (Basic) RPs are locked on sight.

 

...and you flatter me, Otaku. *Bows*.

 

Oh, and Frybread, sure, go ahead. Just something that popped into my mind when I somehow earned that nickname. Insane people are fun to write.

[Frybread002]

Oh....alright, I get it now. But seriously now folks, the MODS should put that into the rules. That's my only complaint right about now. Now are you refering to me as.........god I can't believe I'm using such an term......."Otkau".

 

Aside from that:

 

Well I think I got it, and I'll promise you guys that you keep hearing from me. Not just in the cards section, or Fan-Fics. But in the RP section as well, and deffinately this thread.

 

P.S. I would like to apologizes for spamming (if it counts), and to those folks who made the "Pointless" comments, and I think I see why you guys did it.

[Kaisu]

Okay, I saw Pikachu's thread, and then Dark's rant on it, and one word reminded me of this - revolutions..

 

We're still using the advanced clause, right? At first, there was a revolt, and when the poll appeared, several people, including myself, stated that the Advanced Clause killed the fun.

 

But this gave me an idea. We can kill the post count right? How about the 'Advanced' RP section, which would be this section, and then the 'Basic' RP section, in which the post count would be killed. I made a heap of my friends roleplaying because we should socialize while our characters were doing something random and couldn't do anything until someone responded.

 

Someone suggested having a Advanced, Normal and Starter's RP section or something, but I figured that would be a bit much.

 

So, we could have just 'Advanced Roleplaying' and 'Basic Roleplaying', with the Basic having a mix of the old RP rules and some of the other rules to stop spam.

 

If this has already been suggested, I won't read the whole thread just for one thing -.-

[Otaku-sama]

Until you can even get YCMaker to even consider thinking about going online, your idea is invalid.