:: Roleplay Section Improvements Discussion ::

[Tempest Dahlia]

Tch... Like they're going to acknowledge that pm.

lol, it's pretty much pointless if you ask me. lf it does happen though, i'd be surprised... but l really don't even care anymore.

So yeah, pasta salad if that means Whatever. If not... Whatever.

[Otaku-sama]

I strongly approve of this message. I approve of this message as much as Cato wanted to destroy Carthage. If we were to get that subforum, it will completely end the griping about OoC posting and 5 page unstarted RPs. It will also attract many more members because we won't just be an attachment of the Fanfic Forum, we'll be our own vibrant RP forum that is visible to users new to YCM.

[Luna Lovegood]

Rinne, please stop posting 'Last warning' as peoples only warning. Post 'Only warning' instead.

[Shadow Zero]

or he could implement the three strike system instead and keep a list of who has what warnings in alphabetical order, that would stop my b!tching complaints about only getting one warning about something like short posting in an rp before it gets locked.

 

as to the pm to the two admins, i say go for it. the only problem i see is that i do not know if it is possible to create a postless sub-forum, unless you are talking about something like the forum posting format of chatzy. other then that, i really do not see how that could be done.

either way, i say do it. that way when someone creates a thread, it does not take forever to start and die as a result, like the avatar rp that i am in. x(

[bury the year]

Rinne' date=' please stop posting 'Last warning' as peoples only warning. Post 'Only warning' instead.

[/quote']

 

Difference is?

 

or he could implement the three strike system instead and keep a list of who has what warnings in alphabetical order' date=' that would stop my [s']b!tching[/s] complaints about only getting one warning about something like short posting in an rp before it gets locked.

 

as to the pm to the two admins, i say go for it. the only problem i see is that i do not know if it is possible to create a postless sub-forum, unless you are talking about something like the forum posting format of chatzy. other then that, i really do not see how that could be done.

either way, i say do it. that way when someone creates a thread, it does not take forever to start and die as a result, like the avatar rp that i am in. x(

 

You guys are supposed to read and understand the rules before you make an RP. Therefore, one warning is suitable, and is actually being more generous than what I did before.

 

And I've sent the admins the PM a week ago now, so I think I should touch base again. It is possible to create a postless forum, too; just look at Games.

[Shadow Zero]

well either way, your idea is sound Rinne, and would help a great deal i think.

 

and if they decided that they would either just keep rp a sub-forum of fan-fic or just have fan-fic be a sub-forum of rp...........well, let's just say that i am currently in the mood for waging wars of the objection variety. :twisted:

 

anyway, i have some good ideas for rps, but forgot where to post about and discuss them. xD which thread is that again? because i am fairly certain that it is not this one?

[Luna Lovegood]

Rinne' date=' please stop posting 'Last warning' as peoples only warning. Post 'Only warning' instead.

[/quote']

 

Difference is?

 

or he could implement the three strike system instead and keep a list of who has what warnings in alphabetical order' date=' that would stop my [s']b!tching[/s] complaints about only getting one warning about something like short posting in an rp before it gets locked.

 

as to the pm to the two admins, i say go for it. the only problem i see is that i do not know if it is possible to create a postless sub-forum, unless you are talking about something like the forum posting format of chatzy. other then that, i really do not see how that could be done.

either way, i say do it. that way when someone creates a thread, it does not take forever to start and die as a result, like the avatar rp that i am in. x(

 

You guys are supposed to read and understand the rules before you make an RP. Therefore, one warning is suitable, and is actually being more generous than what I did before.

 

And I've sent the admins the PM a week ago now, so I think I should touch base again. It is possible to create a postless forum, too; just look at Games.

 

In terms of meaning: none

In terms of sounding: Mine > yours

[Shadow Zero]

luna, while you may have a point, you have already stated it and gottwen it across. further discussion on it would be pointless, i think, and only serve to feed your ego. *is speaking from experience*

 

anyway, where do i find the rp ideas discussion thread? :?

[bury the year]

Rinne' date=' please stop posting 'Last warning' as peoples only warning. Post 'Only warning' instead.

[/quote']

 

Difference is?

 

or he could implement the three strike system instead and keep a list of who has what warnings in alphabetical order' date=' that would stop my [s']b!tching[/s] complaints about only getting one warning about something like short posting in an rp before it gets locked.

 

as to the pm to the two admins, i say go for it. the only problem i see is that i do not know if it is possible to create a postless sub-forum, unless you are talking about something like the forum posting format of chatzy. other then that, i really do not see how that could be done.

either way, i say do it. that way when someone creates a thread, it does not take forever to start and die as a result, like the avatar rp that i am in. x(

 

You guys are supposed to read and understand the rules before you make an RP. Therefore, one warning is suitable, and is actually being more generous than what I did before.

 

And I've sent the admins the PM a week ago now, so I think I should touch base again. It is possible to create a postless forum, too; just look at Games.

 

In terms of meaning: none

In terms of sounding: Mine > yours

 

In terms of caring: IDGAF

 

So kindly stop overstepping your boundaries. :3

[Luna Lovegood]

luna' date=' while you may have a point, you have already stated it and gottwen it across. further discussion on it would be pointless, i think, and only serve to feed your ego. *is speaking from experience*

 

anyway, where do i find the rp ideas discussion thread? :?

[/quote']

He asked a question, I answered it. Whats wrong?

Rinne' date=' please stop posting 'Last warning' as peoples only warning. Post 'Only warning' instead.

[/quote']

 

Difference is?

 

or he could implement the three strike system instead and keep a list of who has what warnings in alphabetical order' date=' that would stop my [s']b!tching[/s] complaints about only getting one warning about something like short posting in an rp before it gets locked.

 

as to the pm to the two admins, i say go for it. the only problem i see is that i do not know if it is possible to create a postless sub-forum, unless you are talking about something like the forum posting format of chatzy. other then that, i really do not see how that could be done.

either way, i say do it. that way when someone creates a thread, it does not take forever to start and die as a result, like the avatar rp that i am in. x(

 

You guys are supposed to read and understand the rules before you make an RP. Therefore, one warning is suitable, and is actually being more generous than what I did before.

 

And I've sent the admins the PM a week ago now, so I think I should touch base again. It is possible to create a postless forum, too; just look at Games.

 

In terms of meaning: none

In terms of sounding: Mine > yours

 

In terms of caring: IDGAF

 

So kindly stop overstepping your boundaries. :3

 

Hmmmm, well, OK, but, still... Whatever

[Shadow Zero]

this is starting to get spammy. might i suggest that we get back on the topic of either expert tag or getting a new rp related topic? i only ask this because i do not wish to see people get in trouble for spam, since rinne eats spammers. xD

 

and would somebody please answer my question already instead of ignoring it? it is really starting to annoy.

[Luna Lovegood]

It's directly below this thread. Here is the link :

http://forum.yugiohcardmaker.net/thread-173546.html

[Shadow Zero]

thanks luna, i'll get back to it now then.

[Otaku-sama]

I'll await the hate mail I'll get from this statement I'm about to make:

 

I propose we ban the first person perspective from the forum. I find it that when RPers decide to use 'me', 'myself', and 'I' while RPing their character, they tend to have less detail and richness when compared to RPers of a similar level using the third person. It also feels kind of icky for me and makes the RP look tacky by appearing to include people who are playing characters they want to be, but know they can't be. I simply feel that in order to continue the forum's rise to power on YCM, we should continue to raise the bar in quality. First person perspective, in my humble opinion, doesn't seem to be a part of it.

[Shadow Zero]

if you mean when the character is not thinking or speaking, then i completely agree. insofar as it does not include thought processes of the character and the character speaking to other characters or thinking out loud, definitely keep it in third person. if you mean have it in third person even when the character is supposed to be speaking or thinking, then that would cause some very noticeable (as well as predictable) problems.

[Otaku-sama]

Exactly the problem. The missing detail is the lack of thought processes or descriptive internal character conflicts. I think it also makes the RP look like a patchwork as the perspectives are not standardized. It seems a little awkward when five RPers are using third person while three are using first person. It just doesn't feel right!

[έκλειψη]

Otaku, you are...

Brilliant.

 

I agree with that... Post stuff!

 

Well, I need to get back to the actual first chapter of the Iliad: YCM style. A warrior returning home, young Icy finds many an obstacle in his path, one of which having been the C.C, goddess of the island Aeaea.

 

Hehehe... No.

 

It will be with meh own characters, other than some of the gods/goddesses. Also, mods will make appearances as some deities.

No, Icy. You can't take Zeus... : P

[Hydra of Ages]

I'll await the hate mail I'll get from this statement I'm about to make:

 

I propose we ban the first person perspective from the forum. I find it that when RPers decide to use 'me'' date=' 'myself', and 'I' while RPing their character, they tend to have less detail and richness when compared to RPers of a similar level using the third person. It also feels kind of icky for me and makes the RP look tacky by appearing to include people who are playing characters they want to be, but know they can't be. I simply feel that in order to continue the forum's rise to power on YCM, we should continue to raise the bar in quality. First person perspective, in my humble opinion, doesn't seem to be a part of it.

[/quote']

 

I would like to humbly disagree. While I indeed admit that first-person is frequently abused on the forum, like with any piece of writing, it can be used properly to provide a far less conventional addition to the RP. For example, look at my ~How we got here~ Roleplay; In order to further the framing device of the story being told from the perspective of the character narrating her past, I use first-person when Roleplaying as her. I personally find that it makes providing exposition much more natural, and allows the other roleplayers to have a far clearer idea of what the character is like, rather than 3rd person. Doing the same scenes in 3rd person as I did in 1st person would make them incredibly bland and, if I opted to still include the exposition that I did, would make it awkward to read and write.

 

That said, I know from personal experience how annoying 1st person is when used improperly. I wouldn't consider it unreasonable for someone to forbid it specifically in the Rules of their RP, but banning it entirely seems like throwing out the baby with the bathwater. If it has a place in notable literature, it probably has a place in Roleplayers too.

 

The issue with some using 3rd while others use 1st isn't too big a deal to me. In some cases it's annoying, but in most I don't even notice it.

[Otaku-sama]

Well throwing out the baby with the bath seems to be a little extreme... ^w^'

I prefer to think of it as more like throwing away a two-thirds moulding loaf of bread. One third is still good, unmoulding and delicious, but the rest of it is disgusting, disease-ridden and could infect the remaining third of good bread. Better to throw the whole thing out lest you give yourself food poisoning.

 

So far, you're the only person I've seen so far who has actually used first person effectively, the one diamond in a mountain of coal. I'd think its better just to be rid of it.

 

(BTW is your RP still running?)

[Hydra of Ages]

But coal is useful and provides a large chunk of energy in many industrial countries, especially China. In fact, while coal might be seen as a...

 

...Right, not the point, sorry.

 

To be fair, Otaku, you have to admit that any literary device a bad roleplayer is liable to use will end up being used, well, bad. We wouldn't ban characters from having dark and troubled pasts simply because a lot of people misuse the character device, nor would we ban characters from being able to have improbably large swords or impossible hairstyles simply because they're annoying defaults that the inept misuse far more often than they are used properly. I personally would feel banning first-person would be along these lines of thinking; Of course bad Roleplayers misuse it, because they misuse nearly anything they use. That's, well, what makes them bad roleplayers.

 

(Yeah, it's still running. I'm going to bug the others with a PM to post soon.)

[Shadow Zero]

okay, so here is what i am basically hearing.

 

1: otaku-sama wishes to prune the olive tree.

2: blazinghydra is a diamond in the rough that thinks that there are many more diamonds then just himself, although he freely admits that there is still far more rough then diamond.

 

while i agree with both of these points, i have to agree more with otaku-sama except for this one exception.

there are people who use 1st person badly, it's true. however, there are also many more who never use first person who are just as bad, if not worse, then those using first person. with this in mind, i would like to suggest that first person format only be used in acceptable circumstances in more advanced rp's. of course, this would have to be shelved until there are enough rpers that are good enough to warrant the use of the expert tag, (just my opinion here) but that doesn't mean that it's something that shouldn't be considered as needing to be dealt with as soon as possible. hopefully this doesn't become such a problem to where mods have to step in, and if i am correct, (which i truly hope that i am) there are probably only a few rpers on here who even think to use first person format in rp's. either way, let us not borrow more trouble then we may already have in the given moment, okay?

 

on another note, there is something bother me, and that is the fact of nobody has yet to comment on my rp ideas, so could i please ask for an of you who are also on the 'so i heard you like ar-pee's' thread to do that now please?

[Tempest Dahlia]

Actually l agree otaku. And besides... i've only seen noobs use it anyway. Not to mention it's extremely irritating.

[fenrir]

I'm going to side with Blazing on this. 1st person doesn't necessarily degrade an RP. It's like saying 3rd person makes an RP better; there isn't much of a difference whether the two styles help or harm the RP.

[bury the year]

Although I personally don't like using first-person, as I believe it doesn't let one describe the situation as much as they possibly could, I really can't dictate what you can or can't use in this case. As long as your post quality is up to snuff, go ahead.

[Otaku-sama]

Oh well. I guess I'll have to ban it from my RPs myself then...